Re: reading older disks

2018-09-12 Thread Dan LaBell

Because of of "stickage" it might take more power to spin up, than what
the external can deliver.  Also, I've had drives that won't spin up,  
spin up,

by placing them sideways, or vertical on it's side.
On Aug 21, 2018, at 12:50 PM, st...@prd.co.uk wrote:


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I have wondered about jumpers on the drives, or some kind of format
incompatibility.   I can hunt around for another antique machine to
try them in, but I would welcome any wisdom you may care to offer.


My guess is that the disk has failed.
But, I have seen situations where some USB/IDE adaptors work, and  
some

don't.

So I would indeed recommend trying another old machine.

--=-=-=



A bit of a coincidence for two disks to fail and a memory fault to  
develop

all at the same time, while the disk I was copying to was unaffected?

--
Steve Blinkhorn 





Re: Recommended desktop environment?

2018-09-12 Thread Thomas Mueller


> On Sun 09 Sep 2018 at 02:20:32 +, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> > I just looked on NetBSD installation, no ctwm.

> It is new for 8.0 I believe:

> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  40 Jul 17 16:59 /usr/X11R7/bin/ctwm*

> > I also don't think there is any ctwm in haikuports, couldn't find it.
> > Haiku (www.haiku-os.org) is an open-source successor to BeOS.

> That I know. I wrote the original BeOS GUI for Vim and that is still
> used in haikuports. But I would not expect ctwm (or any other window
> manager) in haikuports, since Haiku has a fine window-manager-equivalent
> of its own. (Although I looked at Haiku recently and it seems you can
> replace the window decorator)

> (oh, last time I replied to you, your mail address bounced)

-Olaf.  

I forgot to change that old email address (mueller6...@bellsouth.net) 
previously.  Yahoo, including bellsouth.net, blocks messages that appear to be 
forwarded from Yahoo servers: overaggressive spam filter.  But your domain 
appears to be falu.nl .

Modular xorg in pkgsrc includes twm but not ctwm as far as I know, so I don't 
get ctwm.  I have no /usr/X11R7 or /usr/X11R6 directory.

I see Haiku has some stuff for kde and gnome but no X window managers, since 
Haiku has its own.

Tom



Re: Recommended desktop environment?

2018-09-12 Thread Thomas Mueller


> On Sun 09 Sep 2018 at 02:20:32 +, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> > I just looked on NetBSD installation, no ctwm.

> It is new for 8.0 I believe:

> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  40 Jul 17 16:59 /usr/X11R7/bin/ctwm*

> > I also don't think there is any ctwm in haikuports, couldn't find it.
> > Haiku (www.haiku-os.org) is an open-source successor to BeOS.

> That I know. I wrote the original BeOS GUI for Vim and that is still
> used in haikuports. But I would not expect ctwm (or any other window
> manager) in haikuports, since Haiku has a fine window-manager-equivalent
> of its own. (Although I looked at Haiku recently and it seems you can
> replace the window decorator)

> (oh, last time I replied to you, your mail address bounced)

-Olaf.  

I forgot to change that old email address (mueller6...@bellsouth.net) 
previously.  Yahoo, including bellsouth.net, blocks messages that appear to be 
forwarded from Yahoo servers: overaggressive spam filter.  But your domain 
appears to be falu.nl .

Modular xorg in pkgsrc includes twm but not ctwm as far as I know, so I don't 
get ctwm.  I have no /usr/X11R7 or /usr/X11R6 directory.

I see Haiku has some stuff for kde and gnome but no X window managers, since 
Haiku has its own.

Tom