Re: Recommendations for small router?

2018-11-25 Thread Jason Mitchell



> On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Santhosh Raju  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:56 AM Lars-Johan Liman  wrote:
>> 
>> [Sorry, sent a version of this from the wrong account a minute ago ...]
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Can anyone recommend a small piece of equipment for a home router that
>> supports the following:
>> 
>> *) Decently supported by and stable operation with NetBSD.
>> 
>> *) At least 4 GB RAM.
>> 
>> *) At least 2 GigE-ports (preferrably 3-4), and able to shuffle bits at
>>   line speed between the two.
>> 
>> *) Able to take a fairly large disk (possibly external) for medium speed
>>   storage. It doesn't have to blindingly fast (no video editing!), but
>>   I want to be able to have my home directory on it and use it from a
>>   different machine.
>> 
>> *) Not too noisy (fanless preferred but not required).
>> 
>> *) Graphics can be very basic, or it can have a serial interface.
>> 
>>Cheers,
>>  /Lars-Johan Liman
> 
> Have you had a look at https://pcengines.ch/apu2.htm
> 
> More specifically https://pcengines.ch/apu4c4.htm The APU4C4 is quite
> nice in terms of specifications and it meets almost all of the
> requirements that you have mentioned. For storage you can use SD cards
> or even better mSATA drive.
> 
> The cost comes to ~120 USD with the board and enclosure (shipping cost
> not considered).
> 
> The only thing I have not tried out is NetBSD on the APU, however I
> have tried out other BSD flavors and they did work quite well.
> 
> I have come across some threads in the mailing list with slower than
> expected network transfer speeds in APU2 (but this was with NetBSD
> 7.0), I am not aware of the current status of NetBSD 8.0 on APU2.
> 
> Hope this reply has been helpful
> Regards
> Santhosh

Hello,

I have tested NetBSD on the first APU2 (with 3 Realtek Ethernet chips/re0) on 
i386.

One problem i did have is that NetBSD would lose its connection to the SD after 
idling for 12+ hours. This was with 6.1.5. So I used an mSSD.

As for speed the APU could do 580Mbit on iperf. This seemed pretty good 
(another device I have that has Realtek chips has done slightly worse with a 
better processor).

HTH,

Jason M.


Re: Recommendations for small router?

2018-11-25 Thread Santhosh Raju
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:56 AM Lars-Johan Liman  wrote:
>
> [Sorry, sent a version of this from the wrong account a minute ago ...]
>
> Hi!
>
> Can anyone recommend a small piece of equipment for a home router that
> supports the following:
>
> *) Decently supported by and stable operation with NetBSD.
>
> *) At least 4 GB RAM.
>
> *) At least 2 GigE-ports (preferrably 3-4), and able to shuffle bits at
>line speed between the two.
>
> *) Able to take a fairly large disk (possibly external) for medium speed
>storage. It doesn't have to blindingly fast (no video editing!), but
>I want to be able to have my home directory on it and use it from a
>different machine.
>
> *) Not too noisy (fanless preferred but not required).
>
> *) Graphics can be very basic, or it can have a serial interface.
>
> Cheers,
>   /Lars-Johan Liman

Have you had a look at https://pcengines.ch/apu2.htm

More specifically https://pcengines.ch/apu4c4.htm The APU4C4 is quite
nice in terms of specifications and it meets almost all of the
requirements that you have mentioned. For storage you can use SD cards
or even better mSATA drive.

The cost comes to ~120 USD with the board and enclosure (shipping cost
not considered).

The only thing I have not tried out is NetBSD on the APU, however I
have tried out other BSD flavors and they did work quite well.

I have come across some threads in the mailing list with slower than
expected network transfer speeds in APU2 (but this was with NetBSD
7.0), I am not aware of the current status of NetBSD 8.0 on APU2.

Hope this reply has been helpful.

Regards
Santhosh


Re: Recommendations for small router?

2018-11-25 Thread Andy Ruhl
On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 12:26 PM Lars-Johan Liman  wrote:
>
> [Sorry, sent a version of this from the wrong account a minute ago ...]
>
> Hi!
>
> Can anyone recommend a small piece of equipment for a home router that
> supports the following:
>
> *) Decently supported by and stable operation with NetBSD.
>
> *) At least 4 GB RAM.
>
> *) At least 2 GigE-ports (preferrably 3-4), and able to shuffle bits at
>line speed between the two.
>
> *) Able to take a fairly large disk (possibly external) for medium speed
>storage. It doesn't have to blindingly fast (no video editing!), but
>I want to be able to have my home directory on it and use it from a
>different machine.
>
> *) Not too noisy (fanless preferred but not required).
>
> *) Graphics can be very basic, or it can have a serial interface.

Probably a lot of people have similar wants/needs. 4 gigs of memory
limits you mostly to i386 or amd64 unless I'm behind the times. You're
really talking about a Mini-ITX system probably. Those are pretty
prevalent and should be supported pretty well if you don't buy a
bleeding edge one.

On the smaller SoC Arm boards, I'm finding that NetBSD isn't as fast
as Linux although much nicer to work with.

The Rock64 isn't far off but doesn't have multiple network interfaces.
And I don't know how far along NetBSD support is yet. I see some
messages about it.

Looking forward to other responses.

Andy


Recommendations for small router?

2018-11-25 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
Hi!

Can anyone recommend a small piece of equipment for a home router that
supports the following:

*) Decently supported by and stable operation with NetBSD.

*) At least 4 GB RAM.

*) At least 2 GigE-ports (preferrably 3-4), and able to shuffle bits at
   line speed between the two.

*) Able to take a fairly large disk (possibly external) for medium speed
   storage. It doesn't have to blindingly fast (no video editing!), but
   I want to be able to have my home directory on it and use it from a
   different machine.

*) Not too noisy (fanless preferred but not required).

*) Graphics can be very basic, or it can have a serial interface.

Cheers,
  /Lars-Johan Liman



Recommendations for small router?

2018-11-25 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
[Sorry, sent a version of this from the wrong account a minute ago ...]

Hi!

Can anyone recommend a small piece of equipment for a home router that
supports the following:

*) Decently supported by and stable operation with NetBSD.

*) At least 4 GB RAM.

*) At least 2 GigE-ports (preferrably 3-4), and able to shuffle bits at
   line speed between the two.

*) Able to take a fairly large disk (possibly external) for medium speed
   storage. It doesn't have to blindingly fast (no video editing!), but
   I want to be able to have my home directory on it and use it from a
   different machine.

*) Not too noisy (fanless preferred but not required).

*) Graphics can be very basic, or it can have a serial interface.

Cheers,
  /Lars-Johan Liman