Re: Mini-PC for NetBSD
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 04:23:44PM +0100, Matthias Petermann wrote: > I answer myself, because apparently DRM is the hurdle to take. In the > release announcement for NetBSD 9.0 it was stated that this is at the level > of Linux 4.4. In the announcement of NetBSD 9.1 it is not mentioned, so it > is assumed that it remained stable. Now a matrix would be good, which shows > which GPU is fully supported in this way :-) Is there such a matrix for > NetBSD? Or can somebody navigate me to the source files, which show me the > current state of it? Or even better, is there a wiki page or something like > that (as exists for Xen for example)? > > Kind regards > Matthias The state of acceleration for Intel GPU is "anything up to Kaby Lake works". That's... 7th generation? 8th? IIRC a more generic UEFI framebuffer driver is used rather than vesa on modern x86 hardware rather than vesa. It's not too bad, depending on your workload.
Re: Mini-PC for NetBSD
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 3:23 PM Matthias Petermann wrote: > today a small hardware question. I would like to buy a Mini-PC, on which > NetBSD should be used as primary desktop operating system. I thought > about an Intel NUC. Such a device from the lower end of the performance > scale with Celeron-CPU I already have in use as a home server (model > NUC5PPYH). But for the desktop it may be a bit more power. An i5 with > SSD and 8 GB RAM or more seems to be a good choice. While I assume that > the often used Realtek-LAN-chipsets and USB 3.0 are no longer a big > problem, I am more concerned about the support of the integrated > graphics. In intel(4) the Intel Iris and Intel Iris Pro chipsets and > Intel HD are mentioned as supported. Not included are Intel UHD, which > is used in some of the newer NUCs. Is there any way to find out in > advance if the respective integrated graphics will be supported by > NetBSD's Xorg? I would like to use the Intel driver and I would not like > to switch to the less performant VESA driver. I would also be grateful > for a concrete model name, if one of you has such a NUC with a > specification of my choice and can confirm that everything works fine. Not all NUCs have crappy processors. I have one with an i7 (the 6i7KYK or something like that), and it works just fine with NetBSD. 9.0 was the first release that supported the Intel on-board graphics (Iris, I believe). -- Benny
Re: Mini-PC for NetBSD
Am 08.12.2020 um 15:22 schrieb Matthias Petermann: > [...] problem, I am more concerned about the support of the integrated graphics. In intel(4) the Intel Iris and Intel Iris Pro chipsets and Intel HD are mentioned as supported. Not included are Intel UHD, which is used in some of the newer NUCs. Is there any way to find out in advance if the respective integrated graphics will be supported by NetBSD's Xorg? I would like to use the Intel driver and I would not like to switch to the less performant VESA driver. I would also be grateful for a concrete model name, if one of you has such a NUC with a specification of my choice and can confirm that everything works fine. I answer myself, because apparently DRM is the hurdle to take. In the release announcement for NetBSD 9.0 it was stated that this is at the level of Linux 4.4. In the announcement of NetBSD 9.1 it is not mentioned, so it is assumed that it remained stable. Now a matrix would be good, which shows which GPU is fully supported in this way :-) Is there such a matrix for NetBSD? Or can somebody navigate me to the source files, which show me the current state of it? Or even better, is there a wiki page or something like that (as exists for Xen for example)? Kind regards Matthias
Mini-PC for NetBSD
Hello everybody, today a small hardware question. I would like to buy a Mini-PC, on which NetBSD should be used as primary desktop operating system. I thought about an Intel NUC. Such a device from the lower end of the performance scale with Celeron-CPU I already have in use as a home server (model NUC5PPYH). But for the desktop it may be a bit more power. An i5 with SSD and 8 GB RAM or more seems to be a good choice. While I assume that the often used Realtek-LAN-chipsets and USB 3.0 are no longer a big problem, I am more concerned about the support of the integrated graphics. In intel(4) the Intel Iris and Intel Iris Pro chipsets and Intel HD are mentioned as supported. Not included are Intel UHD, which is used in some of the newer NUCs. Is there any way to find out in advance if the respective integrated graphics will be supported by NetBSD's Xorg? I would like to use the Intel driver and I would not like to switch to the less performant VESA driver. I would also be grateful for a concrete model name, if one of you has such a NUC with a specification of my choice and can confirm that everything works fine. Thanks & best regards Matthias