Re: old i386 3.1 packages or upgrading with KVM

[Dan LaBell]

On Mar 14, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:


Does anyone know where I can find old 3.1 packages for i386?

I cannot find old source distfiles for using old pkgsrc.


I find a lot of old distfiles with http://www.filewatcher.com/

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Dan

Re: old i386 3.1 packages or upgrading with KVM

[Jeremy C. Reed]

Thank you all for the responses (even off-list).  Sorry I wasn't very 
clear and my subject line was wrong. This is upgrading WITHOUT KVM and I 
have no console access to this remote server.

Re: old i386 3.1 packages or upgrading with KVM

[coypu]

I think the only really scary part is updating the kernel. you can
(and should) make a copy of your current kernel and switching to a -7
kernel. everything else is much less risky and can be done
independently.

I haven't used that kind of setup, can you access the bootloader (and
select the newer kernel to try it out)?

Re: old i386 3.1 packages or upgrading with KVM

[Swift Griggs]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:

Does anyone know where I can find old 3.1 packages for i386?


Damn, that could be tough. I just looked and my oldest go back to 4.x 
only. I burn a DVD or write a tape with the pkg_tarup versions of all my 
packages before I upgrade. However, I didn't have my ***t together back 
then, I guess.


I am working on an old system that the hosting provider only has a 
Windows-based KVM.  I am concerned upgrading it headless.


Whoa. Yeah, that would make me nervous, too. Hopefully you at least have 
console access (I mean to the guest's console via KVM).


I know our upgrade docs have tips of upgrade issues, and I could attempt 
upgrading 3 to 4, 4 to 5, 5 to 6, 6 to 7. But I'd rather not spend days 
on this. Anyone have any suggestions?


Uhhh, yeah, if I had to put my own money down, I wouldn't bet on that 
being successful. Also, as you say, it's going to be slow. It's going to 
be REALLY slow on an unaccelerated KVM instance (IIRC, Windows has no 
acceleration).


Maybe easiest is to just install a new system and migrate data and 
configs over to it.


If it were me, I'd try that first. You could use a copy/snapshot to do it 
and thus if it went horribly wrong/ugly, you could always start over. I 
guess for me it'd all depend on how hairy the applications were. If it was 
just static apache or a BAMP stack, then no sweat. I'd upgrade. If it's a 
situation where I'd have to keep library linkages to ancient libs because 
of dynamic binaries in the app, I'd sit down and have a good cry, then 
cross my fingers and try a clobber-install of 7.x. If that didn't work, 
I'd do the upgrade-script shuffle you are trying to avoid.


-Swift

Re: old i386 3.1 packages or upgrading with KVM

[Jeremy C. Reed]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Jeff_W wrote:

> "Jeremy C. Reed"  wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know where I can find old 3.1 packages for i386?
> >
> > I cannot find old source distfiles for using old pkgsrc.
> > ..
> 
> If binaries are okay there is this:
> 
> ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD-archive/NetBSD-3.1/iso/i386pkg-3.1.iso

Thanks Jeff. I should have mentioned that I saw that, but it has a 
limited set of packages. But I may try it to fill in (until I can get 
the system upgraded).

Re: old i386 3.1 packages or upgrading with KVM

[Jeff_W]

"Jeremy C. Reed"  wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can find old 3.1 packages for i386?
>
> I cannot find old source distfiles for using old pkgsrc.
> ..

If binaries are okay there is this:

ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD-archive/NetBSD-3.1/iso/i386pkg-3.1.iso

Otherwise I think you can browse 2006/Q4 pkgsrc here:

http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/pkgsrc/?only_with_tag=pkgsrc-2006Q4

Should be able to use cvs with -r to get specific tags; haven't actually
tried to do that in a long time...

HTH,
Jeff