Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Swift Griggs]

On Thu, 26 May 2016, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>> FYI, I use the TrendNET TU3-ETG v1.0R with NetBSD. This is a gigabit 
>> NIC with USB3 (though it uses USB2 in NetBSD). It works well and might 
>> give you some more options on smaller machines like that.

> H  That sounds promising. Pi-B+ ? Pi2/3 ? In service ? What are you 
> using it for ? The NIC shows up in
> ifconfig ? Inquiring minds wanna know ;-). Thanks & TIA 

I've only used the adapter on AMD64 and i386. I'm only assuming it works 
on ARM. Sorry, I should have stated that. Here is a bit more info just for 
fun:

% uname -a
NetBSD m83.parsec.com 7.0 NetBSD 7.0 (GENERIC.201509250726Z) i386

dmesg:
axen0 at uhub3 port 2
axen0: ASIX Elec. Corp. AX88179, rev 2.10/1.00, addr 8
axen0: AX88179
axen0: Ethernet address d8:eb:97:b3:ab:d9
rgephy0 at axen0 phy 3: RTL8169S/8110S/8211 1000BASE-T media interface, rev. 5
rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX, auto

ifconfig:
axen0: flags=8802 mtu 1500
capabilities=3ff00
capabilities=3ff00
capabilities=3ff00
enabled=0
ec_capabilities=1
ec_enabled=0
address: d8:eb:97:b3:ab:d9
media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT half-duplex)
status: no carrier


-Swift

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[William A. Mahaffey III]

On 05/27/16 01:35, Kimihiro Nonaka wrote:

2016-05-27 4:28 GMT+09:00 William A. Mahaffey III :


PC Engines apu2?

H  Looks good, slightly weird board size (a bit smaller than
mini-ITX), but I like AMD jaguars. Do you have any in service ? Thanks :-).

I've posted NetBSD/amd64 7.99.29 dmesg of apu2b4.
http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view=2973

worked: serial console (com0), Intel I210 NIC (wm[0-2]), mSATA SSD
(wd0), USB 3.0 Host (xhci0)
not tested: SD card slot (sdhc0)

Regards,



*Swt* :-). What are you using it for, router ? Firewall ? Porting 
code ? Something else ? Thanks & TIA.



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Re: slightly OT hardware question

[William A. Mahaffey III]

On 05/26/16 15:01, Swift Griggs wrote:

On Wed, 25 May 2016, Hal Murray wrote:

Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi?

FYI, I use the TrendNET TU3-ETG v1.0R with NetBSD. This is a gigabit NIC
with USB3 (though it uses USB2 in NetBSD). It works well and might give
you some more options on smaller machines like that.

Thanks,
   Swift



H  That sounds promising. Pi-B+ ? Pi2/3 ? In service ? What are 
you using it for ? The NIC shows up in ifconfig ? Inquiring minds wanna 
know ;-). Thanks & TIA 



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William A. Mahaffey III

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"The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
 ever devised by man."
   -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Kimihiro Nonaka]

2016-05-27 4:28 GMT+09:00 William A. Mahaffey III :

>> PC Engines apu2?
>
> H  Looks good, slightly weird board size (a bit smaller than
> mini-ITX), but I like AMD jaguars. Do you have any in service ? Thanks :-).

I've posted NetBSD/amd64 7.99.29 dmesg of apu2b4.
http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view=2973

worked: serial console (com0), Intel I210 NIC (wm[0-2]), mSATA SSD
(wd0), USB 3.0 Host (xhci0)
not tested: SD card slot (sdhc0)

Regards,
-- 
Kimihiro Nonaka

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Swift Griggs]

On Wed, 25 May 2016, Hal Murray wrote:
> Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi?

FYI, I use the TrendNET TU3-ETG v1.0R with NetBSD. This is a gigabit NIC 
with USB3 (though it uses USB2 in NetBSD). It works well and might give 
you some more options on smaller machines like that. 

Thanks,
  Swift

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[William A. Mahaffey III]

On 05/26/16 10:32, Kimihiro Nonaka wrote:

2016-05-26 0:52 GMT+09:00 William A. Mahaffey III :


Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would
like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite, kinda
pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired somewhat
weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard).
Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one.

PC Engines apu2?




H  Looks good, slightly weird board size (a bit smaller than 
mini-ITX), but I like AMD jaguars. Do you have any in service ? Thanks :-).


--

William A. Mahaffey III

 --

"The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
 ever devised by man."
   -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Michael]

Hello,

On Thu, 26 May 2016 17:19:01 + (UTC)
John Klos  wrote:

> > There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point.
> > https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter
> 
> As far as I know, MIPS is still broken.

Depends on what exactly you mean by 'MIPS' - that's quite a lot of
quite different hardware. Mine work fine with recent -current.

> USB on the EdgeRouter locks up after heavy use, so you can't do
> updates and probably can't even update packages reliably.

That's another dwctwo-variant, isn't it?

have fun
Michael

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[coypu]

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 09:40:45AM -0700, Andy Ruhl wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:57 AM,   wrote:
> > There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point.
> > https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter
> 
> If we're talking MIPS now (on the arm list no less), what about
> something like this:

APU2 is amd64, or "he started it!" :-)

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Andy Ruhl]

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:57 AM,   wrote:
> There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point.
> https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter

If we're talking MIPS now (on the arm list no less), what about
something like this:

https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/gl-inet/gl-inet_64xx

Not supported by NetBSD as far as I can tell but it would be pretty
cool if it was.

Andy

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[coypu]

There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point.
https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Kimihiro Nonaka]

2016-05-26 0:52 GMT+09:00 William A. Mahaffey III :

> Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
> working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would
> like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite, kinda
> pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired somewhat
> weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard).
> Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one.

PC Engines apu2?

-- 
NONAKA Kimihiro

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[William A. Mahaffey III]

On 05/26/16 03:25, David Brownlee wrote:

On 26 May 2016 at 07:19, Hal Murray  wrote:


w...@hiwaay.net said:

Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I  would
like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. ...

Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi?

... particularly as the onboard Ethernet on at least the original Pi
was via USB :)



H  I didn't know that, really ? I have one (RPi-B+, 700 MHz 
single core ARM) running NetBSD & being my NTP server, maybe I need to 
rethink my (limited) knowledge of network devices on these beasties. 
There have been some posts some months ago indicating that the various 
RJ45's on a BPi-R1 being wired through the USB controller was giving 
problems porting NetBSD to that board, is that a correct recollection ? 
If so, is it still valid ? TIA & have a good one.



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 ever devised by man."
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Re: slightly OT hardware question

[William A. Mahaffey III]

On 05/26/16 01:25, Hal Murray wrote:

w...@hiwaay.net said:

Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I  would
like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. ...

Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi?



My understanding is those don't work so well, & result in slightly 
'custom'/weird/whatever practices to accomodate. I did consider it & 
wound up not liking it :-/. That's why I asked for 2 or more RJ45's, 
maybe I should have said 'native RJ45 ports', not wired in weird like 
the BPi-R1 



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 ever devised by man."
   -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[David Brownlee]

On 26 May 2016 at 07:19, Hal Murray  wrote:
>
>
> w...@hiwaay.net said:
> > Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
> > working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I  would
> > like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. ...
>
> Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi?

... particularly as the onboard Ethernet on at least the original Pi
was via USB :)

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[William A. Mahaffey III]

On 05/25/16 15:50, Timo Buhrmester wrote:

2 or more working RJ45 ports
[...]
Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports

Huh?  The Banana-Pi has one Ethernet port.  Where did you get the 5 from?


NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard

I'm running a wifi access point on a Banana Pi using NetBSD (-current,
but 7-stable worked too, IIRC).



The BPi-R1 (I *think* that's the right full name) has 5 RJ45 ports, 1 
GBE wired normally, the other 4 somehow wired through the USB controller.


http://www.banana-pi.org/r1.html

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 ever devised by man."
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Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Hal Murray]

w...@hiwaay.net said:
> Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
> working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I  would
> like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. ...

Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi?




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Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Timo Buhrmester]

> There is a Banana-Pi router that has 5 ports.  I have one here but
> have not had time to try and install NetBSD to it yet.
Thanks for the correction, I mistook the 'R' in "R1" for "Revision".
Hadn't heard of the router board yet.

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Timo Buhrmester]

> 2 or more working RJ45 ports
> [...]
> Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports
Huh?  The Banana-Pi has one Ethernet port.  Where did you get the 5 from?

> NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard
I'm running a wifi access point on a Banana Pi using NetBSD (-current,
but 7-stable worked too, IIRC).

Re: slightly OT hardware question

[Andy Ruhl]

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:52 AM, William A. Mahaffey III  
wrote:
>
> Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
> working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would
> like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite, kinda
> pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired somewhat
> weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard).
> Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one.

I've had good luck with the Seagate Dockstar, but it only has 1
ethernet port. It's so cheap (used on Ebay) that you shouldn't have
trouble buying a USB adapter. Apparently FreeBSD runs on it as well. I
haven't tried.

Andy