Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
Hello, Sorry to hear that; I believe many would want to attend netconf in case it was a part of LCA08. I must add that I followed some of the presentations slides of netconf from recent years and it seemed very interesting and very advanced. I also watched the Linux IPSEC Scaling video (available on the internet) from LCA 2007 and found it really interesting . (I don't think that there is any video from netconf conferences from recent years). I wish that in LCA09 things will be different. (And of course I did not mean any netconf stuff from martin krafft, which I already knew before) Regards, Andy On Jan 14, 2008 4:08 AM, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Glen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:23:45 +1030 On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 08:52 +0200, Andy Johnson wrote: I saw somewhere (maybe in this mailing list a while ago) that there might be a Linux Kernel Developers' Netconf conference at conf.au 2008. Does anyone here know if such a thing is planned ? I don't know. We wanted to do a netconf in Sydney right before LCA08, but an unnamed company with a multi billion dollar market capitalization that uses Linux networking technology on thousands upon thounsands of their servers didn't want to pony up for some funding to cover airfare and hotel expenses for several of the attendees. They wanted to provide nothing more than a conference room and then get their names in bright lights so they could say they sponsored netconf. So, no, there will be no netconf at LCA08. But many of us will be there anyways and chatting in any event :-) Thanks for the offer for the network pipe. I'm not interested personally as I like to relax during the conference not hack actively on anything too seriously. I'm there to present, keep up semi regularly with my email, and chat with folks. Now, if this were available outside of the conference so that we could play with it remotely from where we work, that's more interesting. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe netdev in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
also sprach David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.01.14.0312 +0100]: I think you may be mixing things up, and it may be my fault in ways. I am developing netconf: http://netconf.alioth.debian.org. I am aware of the NETCONF protocol and have considered renaming my project, but looking around, it seemed to me that NETCONF isn't really all that active, and so I chose to keep the name. If people think that wasn't wise, I'm willing to listen... Netconf is the name of the usually annual conference the core Linux networking developer organize. Fun fun fun: name clashes. In Debian, we have debconf, the tool, the protocol and the conference. Now we have netconf, the tool, the protocol and the conference. -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ if you find a spelling mistake in the above, you get to keep it. spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 18:08 -0800, David Miller wrote: Now, if this were available outside of the conference so that we could play with it remotely from where we work, that's more interesting. Hi David, As I posted to this list last year AARNet is willing to make a 10GE connected server in Perth available to the netdev and PFLDNet communities. There was a matching offer from the University of Manchester in England, which gives an impressive BDP (Perth-Sydney-Seattle-New York-London @ 10Gbps across production networks). Since there was no reply to the offer it went on the back burner and we've done a smaller rollout (Perth-Seattle) to suit our own immediate needs. We really appreciate your work and the work of everyone else on the netdev list, so I'll re-contact Manchester and get this back on track. If you have trouble hosting netconf next year please get in touch. Although AARNet could not sponsor the flights or accommodation we could provide everything else you require. We're not name in bright lights people so there would be plenty of room for other sponsors. [1] Alternatively, AARNet has been pretty successful in the past at attracting sponsorship for events which benefit our users, so if you and the netdev people were willing to hold a one-day training/workshop of interest to academic and research network users (say network host tuning) before/after your meeting then we'd have no trouble getting sponsorship via the training event that would be sufficient to cover the airfares and accommodation for the larger event. Anyway, to cut to the chase, the users of AARNet face large RTTs to get anywhere and we are very appreciative of the huge amount of work that you, John, Stephen and many others on this list have put into improving performance under the conditions we face. If we can help your work then please ask. Best wishes, Glen [1] Witness our sponsorship of linux.conf.au, where our only real request is that people don't place us in a difficult position by misusing the network we provide. -- Glen Turner, Network Engineer (08) 8303 3936 or +61 8 8303 3936 Australia's Academic Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe netdev in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] (at Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:17:51 +0100), martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] says: also sprach Andy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.01.12.0752 +0100]: I saw somewhere (maybe in this mailing list a while ago) that there might be a Linux Kernel Developers' Netconf conference at conf.au 2008. I think you may be mixing things up, and it may be my fault in ways. I am developing netconf: http://netconf.alioth.debian.org. I am aware of the NETCONF protocol and have considered renaming my project, but looking around, it seemed to me that NETCONF isn't really all that active, and so I chose to keep the name. If people think that wasn't wise, I'm willing to listen... Very confusing to me... --yoshfuji -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe netdev in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
From: Glen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:31:20 +1030 If you have trouble hosting netconf next year please get in touch. Although AARNet could not sponsor the flights or accommodation we could provide everything else you require. I appreciate the offer, but the funding is the one and only issue. I have more ways to get conference facilities and network connectivity for them than I need. so if you and the netdev people were willing to hold a one-day training/workshop of interest to academic and research network users (say network host tuning) before/after your meeting then we'd have no trouble getting sponsorship via the training event that would be sufficient to cover the airfares and accommodation for the larger event. We're really not interested in things like this, but thanks for mentioning. At best what we do is allow one or two representatives from a major sponsoring party to attend and give a presentation (netconf is invite only, so this is a big deal). And that presentation must be on practical work the presenter has done or is doing with the Linux networking upstream (ie. it can't be a our company needs the Linux networking to do X, some sales/marketing pitch, or here's cool proprietary Y we're doing with Linux) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe netdev in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
also sprach YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.01.14.1206 +0100]: Very confusing to me... FYI: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/netconf-devel/2008-January/000214.html However, I am not entirely convinced. I think conference/tool/protocol are far apart enough so that the name does not clash. -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ perhaps debian is concerned more about technical excellence rather than ease of use by breaking software. in the former we may excel. in the latter we have to concede the field to microsoft. guess where i want to go today? -- manoj srivastava spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 08:52 +0200, Andy Johnson wrote: I saw somewhere (maybe in this mailing list a while ago) that there might be a Linux Kernel Developers' Netconf conference at conf.au 2008. Does anyone here know if such a thing is planned ? Hi Andy, I don't know. However this seems a good opportunity to remind people that AARNet will as usual be proving a 1Gbps link from linux.conf.au to universities and national labs in the USA and beyond. Netdev people are welcome to hammer this if they want to test performance on a real-life long fat pipe (minimum RTT 200ms). If you particularly want some feature (IPv6, multicast, whatever), some engineering detail, a real worst case RTT (Perth-Sydney-Seattle-New York-Amsterdam-Tomsk @ 1Gbps) or some office space before/after the conference then drop me a mail. There are two well-educated users of fast long-distance networks in Melbourne doing transfers for physics and astronomy applications. If the application/TCP interaction is of interest then I can arrange an introduction. Best wishes, Glen -- Glen Turner, Network Engineer (08) 8303 3936 or +61 8 8303 3936 Australia's Academic Research Network www.aarnet.edu.au -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe netdev in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
also sprach Andy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.01.12.0752 +0100]: I saw somewhere (maybe in this mailing list a while ago) that there might be a Linux Kernel Developers' Netconf conference at conf.au 2008. I think you may be mixing things up, and it may be my fault in ways. I am developing netconf: http://netconf.alioth.debian.org. I am aware of the NETCONF protocol and have considered renaming my project, but looking around, it seemed to me that NETCONF isn't really all that active, and so I chose to keep the name. If people think that wasn't wise, I'm willing to listen... -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ the only difference between the saint and the sinner is that every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. -- oscar wilde spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
From: Glen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:23:45 +1030 On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 08:52 +0200, Andy Johnson wrote: I saw somewhere (maybe in this mailing list a while ago) that there might be a Linux Kernel Developers' Netconf conference at conf.au 2008. Does anyone here know if such a thing is planned ? I don't know. We wanted to do a netconf in Sydney right before LCA08, but an unnamed company with a multi billion dollar market capitalization that uses Linux networking technology on thousands upon thounsands of their servers didn't want to pony up for some funding to cover airfare and hotel expenses for several of the attendees. They wanted to provide nothing more than a conference room and then get their names in bright lights so they could say they sponsored netconf. So, no, there will be no netconf at LCA08. But many of us will be there anyways and chatting in any event :-) Thanks for the offer for the network pipe. I'm not interested personally as I like to relax during the conference not hack actively on anything too seriously. I'm there to present, keep up semi regularly with my email, and chat with folks. Now, if this were available outside of the conference so that we could play with it remotely from where we work, that's more interesting. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe netdev in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Netconf at conf.au 2008?
From: martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:17:51 +0100 also sprach Andy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.01.12.0752 +0100]: I saw somewhere (maybe in this mailing list a while ago) that there might be a Linux Kernel Developers' Netconf conference at conf.au 2008. I think you may be mixing things up, and it may be my fault in ways. I am developing netconf: http://netconf.alioth.debian.org. I am aware of the NETCONF protocol and have considered renaming my project, but looking around, it seemed to me that NETCONF isn't really all that active, and so I chose to keep the name. If people think that wasn't wise, I'm willing to listen... Netconf is the name of the usually annual conference the core Linux networking developer organize. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe netdev in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Netconf at conf.au 2008?
Hello, I saw somewhere (maybe in this mailing list a while ago) that there might be a Linux Kernel Developers' Netconf conference at conf.au 2008. Does anyone here know if such a thing is planned ? Regards, Andy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe netdev in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
