Re: raw sockets ignore IP_HDRINCL data

2007-06-03 Thread Mick McCreath
Hi Herbet,

Thanks for the feedback.

On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 21:07 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
 Mick McCreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  When I run traceroute -i eth1 5.4.3.2, the UDP packets are routed out
  eth2.
  
  Has anybody seen this behaviour with traceroute??
 
 Well the version of traceroute here actually does a BINDTODEVICE so it
 will go out of the right interface.  It also binds the socket so that
 it gets the right source address.
 

Which traceroute are you using??

I am using version 1.4a12 by Van Jacobson downloaded from Lawrence
Berkeley Labs.

In this one, it only binds if IP_HDRINCL is not defined (in a #ifndef).

 I can see your point of view that it would be nice if the kernel read
 the IP headers in making its routing decision.  However, the current
 behaviour has been there forever and it's unclear what we might break
 by changing it.

I sort of thought that might be the case :-)

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Re: raw sockets ignore IP_HDRINCL data

2007-06-03 Thread Herbert Xu
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:52:07AM +1000, Mick McCreath wrote:
 
 Which traceroute are you using??
 
 I am using version 1.4a12 by Van Jacobson downloaded from Lawrence
 Berkeley Labs.

The one from Debian which is based on the same source.  Hmm, it
looks like I came to the same conclusion that you did and added
a patch to it five years ago to get it to bind the interface :)

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Re: raw sockets ignore IP_HDRINCL data

2007-06-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Mick McCreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 When I run traceroute -i eth1 5.4.3.2, the UDP packets are routed out
 eth2.
 
 Has anybody seen this behaviour with traceroute??

Well the version of traceroute here actually does a BINDTODEVICE so it
will go out of the right interface.  It also binds the socket so that
it gets the right source address.

I can see your point of view that it would be nice if the kernel read
the IP headers in making its routing decision.  However, the current
behaviour has been there forever and it's unclear what we might break
by changing it.

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raw sockets ignore IP_HDRINCL data

2007-06-01 Thread Mick McCreath
Hi,

I have a multi-homed system like this:

eth1: 1.2.3.4 GW: 1.2.3.1
eth2: 2.3.4.5 GW: 2.3.4.1

route ouput snippet is:

default 2.3.4.1 0.0.0.0 UG 3 0 0 eth2
default 1.2.3.1 0.0.0.0 UG 4 0 0 eth1
default 2.3.4.1 0.0.0.0 UG 4 0 0 eth2

When I run traceroute -i eth1 5.4.3.2, the UDP packets are routed out
eth2.

Has anybody seen this behaviour with traceroute??

I have done some debugging, and believe this to be an ipv4 kernel bug.
My research came up with the following:

By the traceroute source code, it uses raw sockets and relies on
IP_HDRINCL (which is defined in the kernel source netinet/in.h) to
select the routing interface and does not bind the socket to the source
IP address.

I hacked the traceroute source code to do a bind if the -i option is used,
and the correct GW is used.

I am using a 2.4.29 kernel and have traced through the kernel and
in .../net/ipv4/raw.c, raw_sendmsg() does not read the data to get the
IP header and the source address, which then results in a 0.0.0.0 source
address and hence the routing, ip_route_output(), pulls the default
gateway with the lowest metric, in this case eth2.

I have also used a 2.6.21 kernel and similiar behaviour happens. The
2.6.21 kernel source code does not read the IP header from the data
either.

Am I reading/interpreting the source code correctly?

Any other suggestions/more information would be great.

Cheers,

Mick

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