Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.txt

2024-03-01 Thread Yingzhen Qu 
Hi,

Speaking as an individual contributor, I'm leaning toward option 3. In case
someone implemented RFC 8347, they can choose whether to implement the new
model.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 12:43 PM Acee Lindem  wrote:

> This BIS document updates the YANG model with IETF inclusive language
> guidelines as was done with the VRRP protocol specification itself.
>
> [image: ietf-logo-card.png]
>
> Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP) Version 3 for IPv4 and IPv6
> 
> datatracker.ietf.org
> 
> 
>
>
> It currently doesn’t conform to YANG backward guidelines. There are
> basically three options:
>
> 1. Treat the correction of non-inclusive language as necessary bug fix
> and allow non-backward compatible changes.
> 2. Keep all the old non-inclusive data leaves in the model with
> deprecated status. At some point in future, these could be removed in a new
> document.
> 3. Make this a completely new model - ietf-vrrp-2.yang.
>
> The current individual draft is based on option 1. I had a conversation
> with Lou and he suggested the 3 third option.
>
> What are people’s opinion on this? Option 2 is my least favorite since it
> doesn’t complete the job and given how long IETF document take (especially
> YANG models), I probably won’t be actively participating long enough for
> the draft which removes the deprecated options.
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
> On Mar 1, 2024, at 15:31, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:
>
> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.txt has
> been successfully submitted by Acee Lindem and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name: draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis
> Revision: 03
> Title:A YANG Data Model for the Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol
> (VRRP)
> Date: 2024-03-01
> Group:Individual Submission
> Pages:44
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.txt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis/
> HTML:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.html
> HTMLized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis
> Diff:
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03
>
> Abstract:
>
>   This document describes a data model for the Virtual Router
>   Redundancy Protocol (VRRP).  Both versions 2 and 3 of VRRP are
>   covered.
>
>   The VRRP terminology has been updated conform to inclusive language
>   guidelines for IETF technologies.  The IETF has designated National
>   Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) "Guidance for NIST Staff
>   on Using Inclusive Language in Documentary Standards" for its
>   inclusive language guidelines.
>
>   This document obsoletes RFC 8347.
>
>
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>
>
>
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Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.txt

2024-03-01 Thread Acee Lindem 
This BIS document updates the YANG model with IETF inclusive language 
guidelines as was done with the VRRP protocol specification itself. 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc5798bis/
Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP) Version 3 for IPv4 and IPv6
datatracker.ietf.org
 

It currently doesn’t conform to YANG backward guidelines. There are basically 
three options: 

1. Treat the correction of non-inclusive language as necessary bug fix and 
allow non-backward compatible changes. 
2. Keep all the old non-inclusive data leaves in the model with deprecated 
status. At some point in future, these could be removed in a new document. 
3. Make this a completely new model - ietf-vrrp-2.yang. 

The current individual draft is based on option 1. I had a conversation with 
Lou and he suggested the 3 third option. 

What are people’s opinion on this? Option 2 is my least favorite since it 
doesn’t complete the job and given how long IETF document take (especially YANG 
models), I probably won’t be actively participating long enough for the draft 
which removes the deprecated options. 

Thanks,
Acee

> On Mar 1, 2024, at 15:31, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.txt has
> been successfully submitted by Acee Lindem and posted to the
> IETF repository.
> 
> Name: draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis
> Revision: 03
> Title:A YANG Data Model for the Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)
> Date: 2024-03-01
> Group:Individual Submission
> Pages:44
> URL:  
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.txt
> Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis/
> HTML: 
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.html
> HTMLized: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis
> Diff: 
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03
> 
> Abstract:
> 
>   This document describes a data model for the Virtual Router
>   Redundancy Protocol (VRRP).  Both versions 2 and 3 of VRRP are
>   covered.
> 
>   The VRRP terminology has been updated conform to inclusive language
>   guidelines for IETF technologies.  The IETF has designated National
>   Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) "Guidance for NIST Staff
>   on Using Inclusive Language in Documentary Standards" for its
>   inclusive language guidelines.
> 
>   This document obsoletes RFC 8347.
> 
> 
> 
> The IETF Secretariat
> 
> 

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