Re: Jittery NetSurf

2008-07-15 Thread Jess Hampshire
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  James Bursa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 06:18:51PM +0100, Andrew Hodgkinson wrote:
 Yes, but you're still squandering CPU cycles on unnecessary reformats
 caused by NetSurf failing to allocate space for images even when the
 image has a fixed width and height, even if those intermediate redraw
 stages are double-buffered (which actually just slows you down even
 *more*, of course). I never understood why NS ignores image sizes.
 
 Ignoring the size makes it possible to display the entire alt text without it
 being cropped to the size of the image, so the page is more useful
 while images
 are loading.
 
 Essentially img src=... alt=NetSurf is treated like
 object data=...NetSurf/object.

Could this be made a user choice?

How useful each behaviour is depends on both the machine rendering 
speed and the time taken to download images.

(eg A7000 on fast broadband vs. Iyonix on slow dial-up)

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Re: Problems with web site

2008-07-15 Thread David Mills
Dave Ruck Wrote



 Different problem, it hung after loading and when I scrolled down.
 I


Interesting..I have this too as I discovered yesterday and have just had it
happen on another site but not able to alt break out of the problem in
either case.

 www.thepeoplehistory.com

BTW I'm now using my original True Tech mouse as in another thread mouse
troubles were identified.

David M




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Re: Problems with web site

2008-07-15 Thread Michael Drake
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   David J. Ruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Different problem, it hung after loading and when I scrolled down.
 I alt+breaked and it killed Flash, after which everything continued 
 ok.

I suggest disabling plug-ins in Choices - Content. There aren't really
any useful plug-ins available and plug-ins have known stability issues.

Michael

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Re: Problems with web site

2008-07-15 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 15 Jul 2008  David Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave Ruck Wrote



 Different problem, it hung after loading and when I scrolled down.
 I


 Interesting..I have this too as I discovered yesterday and have just had it
 happen on another site but not able to alt break out of the problem in
 either case.

  www.thepeoplehistory.com

Funny; seems to work perfectly here with NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (11 Jul 
2008 19:30) r4621 and RISC OS 5.13.

Interesting site, and thanks for mentioning it!

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: Jittery NetSurf

2008-07-15 Thread Richard Porter
On 15 Jul 2008 Jess Hampshire wrote:

 James Bursa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 06:18:51PM +0100, Andrew Hodgkinson wrote:
 Yes, but you're still squandering CPU cycles on unnecessary reformats
 caused by NetSurf failing to allocate space for images even when the
 image has a fixed width and height, even if those intermediate redraw
 stages are double-buffered (which actually just slows you down even
 *more*, of course). I never understood why NS ignores image sizes.
 
 Ignoring the size makes it possible to display the entire alt text
 without it being cropped to the size of the image, so the page is more
 useful while images are loading.
 
 Essentially img src=... alt=NetSurf is treated like
 object data=...NetSurf/object.

 Could this be made a user choice?

 How useful each behaviour is depends on both the machine rendering
 speed and the time taken to download images.

Viewing the alt text during formatting is of limited usefulness. My 
preference would be allocate the right amount of space when it is 
known. Is there a way to view the alt text later? Some browsers do 
this if you hover long enough over the image. At the very least it 
could be added to the Object  Info window. I need to raise an FR!

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Re: Jittery NetSurf

2008-07-15 Thread Jess Hampshire
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 15 Jul 2008 Jess Hampshire wrote:
 
 James Bursa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

 Ignoring the size makes it possible to display the entire alt text
 without it being cropped to the size of the image, so the page is more
 useful while images are loading.
 
 Essentially img src=... alt=NetSurf is treated like
 object data=...NetSurf/object.
 
 Could this be made a user choice?
 
 How useful each behaviour is depends on both the machine rendering
 speed and the time taken to download images.
 
 Viewing the alt text during formatting is of limited usefulness. My

If a site is written correctly and you have a slow connection and a 
fast browser then it could be a help.

 preference would be allocate the right amount of space when it is
 known.

Given the number of sites with stupid alt text, if a user option were 
not a possibility, I too would prefer space being allocated.

However, some people might like the current situation and it would be 
nicer to have it optional.

(It's annoying when features disappear, like the old leaf name 
system.)