Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.

2008-09-05 Thread Roger Darlington
On 4 Sep 2008, Richard Porter wrote:
 On 4 Sep 2008 Roger Darlington wrote:
 
 On 3 Sep 2008, Michael Drake wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Roger Darlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 NetSurf, it appears, will search un-framed sites, but not framed ones.
 
 Click in the frame you want to search and either press F4 or do Menu 
 Utilities  Find text.
 
 I have already tried that: it doesn't work in;
 Wild Flowers http://wildflowerfinder.org.uk/
 
 Did it work for you??
 
 That site doesn't work for me at all. I just see the banner at the
 top, part of which overwrites other parts. The rest of the screen is
 blank.

That is yet another bug in Netsurf that should have been reported ages 
ago.

No other browser behaves like this, as I have said many times before, 
only Netsurf.

Therefore I believe it is another bug in Netsurf.

 
 
 


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Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.

2008-09-05 Thread Roger Darlington
On 4 Sep 2008, Richard Porter wrote:
 On 4 Sep 2008 Dr Peter Young wrote:
 
 On 4 Sep 2008  Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 4 Sep 2008 Roger Darlington wrote:
 
 I have already tried that: it doesn't work in;
 Wild Flowers http://wildflowerfinder.org.uk/
 
 Did it work for you??
 
 That site doesn't work for me at all. I just see the banner at the
 top, part of which overwrites other parts. The rest of the screen is
 blank.
 
 With NetSurf, you have to scale the page down; 90% works here for me.
 
 And searching within a frame works here too.
 
 Right. The problem is that you can't scroll the whole frameset
 horizontally, and the individual frames can't be scrolled so NetSurf
 just gives up. I had to scale down to 70% to get the index frame in,
 although it will display some frames at 90% and full screen width.

Other browsers have no such hangups with this site, and can display 
it. i think it is a bug in Netsurf.

 
 My inclination would be to greatly simplify and split up that page,
 and do away with frames altogether. I can't see the point of the
 noframes section - surely it would be better to provide links to the
 main index and search facilities. Are there any browsers where you can
 turn frames off?
 


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Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.

2008-09-05 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:40:32 +0100
David J. Ruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm afraid you can't keep wheeling out that response to people using 
 your application, just because its open source and they happen to be
 a developer of some description.

I'm afraid I can.  We're not here for users, we're hear because
developing NetSurf is an amusing use of our spare time.  If you find
something unacceptable, fix it.  That's how many of the current
developers got started with it



Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.

2008-09-05 Thread Michael Drake
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5 Sep 2008 Michael Drake wrote:

  It searches the top level document, which is just a frameset in this
  case and therefore has no content.

 But the user isn't concerned with how the page is constructed. (S)he 
 just wants to find a text string wherever it happens to be on the 
 page. The search facility should search all framesets recursively.

Yes, of course. I'm simply describing how it works at the moment. Anyone
is welcome to change it or submit a feature request so someone else might
change it.

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Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.

2008-09-05 Thread Roger Darlington
On 5 Sep 2008, Michael Drake wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Roger Darlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So why does it not work when you use the third and much more obvious
 and visible alternative: The magnifying glass 'find'?
 
 It searches the top level document, which is just a frameset in this case
 and therefore has no content.

Perhaps that is also a bug, then, as other browsers (Firefox, Safari, 
etc) do search more than just the frameset...

I think that perhaps it is the act of clicking on the page to show it 
which to search, and then clicking on a magnifying glass which 
confuses it and it starts searching where the magnifying glass is?

And of course, it finds nothing...



 


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Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.

2008-09-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Sep 2008 Michael Drake wrote:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The row height bug

 What's that?

If you specify the row height in the table row tag and that height is 
not exceeded by any cell or any object in any cell in the row, then 
the height of the row is much greater that it should be. If the height 
is not specified in the row tag then the row height is correctly set 
according to what is in the cells of that row.

Example

tr height=6tdimg src=images/spacer.gif width=1 height=6 
alt=/td
tdimg src=images/tlcorner.gif width=6 height=6 border=0 
alt=/td
td bgcolor=#d0img src=images/spacer.gif width=1 height=1 
alt=/td/tr

Gives a row that is much too high (probably sufficient to contain text 
although there isn't any), whereas

trtdimg src=images/spacer.gif width=1 height=6 alt=/td
tdimg src=images/tlcorner.gif width=6 height=6 border=0 
alt=/td
td bgcolor=#d0 height=6img src=images/spacer.gif width=1 
height=1 alt=/td/tr

gives the correct result. This has been reported on the tracker.
N.B. spacer is a one pixel transparent image.
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Re: Bug: 'Search Text' does not work in framed sites.

2008-09-05 Thread Richard Ashbery
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roger
Darlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4 Sep 2008, Richard Porter wrote:

[snip]

 That is yet another bug in Netsurf that should have been reported
 ages ago.

 No other browser behaves like this, as I have said many times
 before, only Netsurf.

 Therefore I believe it is another bug in Netsurf.

This does look like a bug in NetSurf..

A word of caution - I have just transferrred  the URL to Firefox on a
PC. If I didn't know there was a Subject index frame on the
right-hand-side of the page I might not have automatically enlarged it
to see if anything was missing. My default Firefox browser page
displays just three frames.

Regards

Richard

Incidentally - that's one hell of a database you have accumulated.
Well done.




Random crashes

2008-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Baxendale
Hi,

Ever since the upgrade to the parser I get random crashes, with
Netsurf saying it has encountered a serious error and must exit. I
don't remember having had this for a long time.

Sometimes this happens almost immediately and at other times I can use
the program for ages without a problem. I don't want to file a spurious
bug report as since no one else has commented on this I wonder if it is
something strange on my system.

Any one else having the same problem?

Kinetic RiscPC Adjust 4.39.

TTFN
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Re: Random crashes

2008-09-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Sep 2008 Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:

 Ever since the upgrade to the parser I get random crashes, with
 Netsurf saying it has encountered a serious error and must exit. I
 don't remember having had this for a long time.

 Sometimes this happens almost immediately and at other times I can use
 the program for ages without a problem. I don't want to file a spurious
 bug report as since no one else has commented on this I wonder if it is
 something strange on my system.

If you get a crash report it and submit the log. If it's a duplicate 
the developers can close it.

 Any one else having the same problem?

Yes, I've logged numerous crashes for various reasons (segmentation 
fault, aborted, floating point exception) but they didn't start with 
the new parser so that could be a red herring. The low memory problem 
certainly did start at about the time the new parser was incorporated.

 Kinetic RiscPC Adjust 4.39.

Kinetic RiscPC Select 6.10 on Adjust 4.39.
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Re: Random crashes

2008-09-05 Thread Alan Sally
HI,

I've had a couple of these, too. Using r5229 on RISCOS 3.5. The second occurred 
when I was trying to report the first. It results in over 3 MB of logfile which 
fortunately compressed to under 50 KB, otherwise I couldn't have sent it. At 
least the machine doesn't lock up and it exits in an orderly manner. (Fine 
piece of software.) Overall it seems to be working better = faster and smoother.

All we need is a mail programme to run alongside it. (Wish list)

All the best, Alan



On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:04:46 +1200, Geoffrey Baxendale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hi,

 Ever since the upgrade to the parser I get random crashes, with
 Netsurf saying it has encountered a serious error and must exit. I
 don't remember having had this for a long time.

 Sometimes this happens almost immediately and at other times I can use
 the program for ages without a problem. I don't want to file a spurious
 bug report as since no one else has commented on this I wonder if it is
 something strange on my system.

 Any one else having the same problem?

 Kinetic RiscPC Adjust 4.39.

 TTFN



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Broken tables

2008-09-05 Thread Paul Vigay
Does anyone know when the broken table code (ie. background colouring just
repeating the first occurrence) is likely to get fixed. It's been broken
for about a month now!

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Re: Broken tables

2008-09-05 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:56:28 +0100
Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know when the broken table code (ie. background colouring
 just repeating the first occurrence) is likely to get fixed. It's
 been broken for about a month now!

When somebody with knowledge of that code has some spare time they're
willing to spend on it.