Re: 'back' behaviour in framesets

[Roger Darlington]

On 29 Apr 2009, Richard Porter wrote:
> Netsurf's behaviour is a little bit inconsistent or at least
> inconvenient with framesets. For example go to
> http://www.bestmoments.at/catago/BestMoments/FE/Index/index
> 
> and click on "ZU DEN BILDERN". The main frame changes but the back
> icon is not enabled. However the menu allows you to select Navigate >
> Back one page. Having gone back to the first page the reverse applies
> and you can go forward one page using the menu but not the toolbar
> icon.
> 
> You need to click Menu in the main frame, so I can see what's
> happening but it's not particularly helpful. It would be better if the
> forward and back icons let you step through the 'pages' actually seen
> regardless of their structure. I think most browsers do this.

By experimentation with one of my framed sites (no comments on my 
implementation of these sites please!) the way Netsurf has implemented 
forward/back via menu allows you to click 'menu' over the frame-pane 
that you wish to go backwards/forwards on. So, you could click on any 
frame-pane. Unfortunately, it doesn't update the menu pane when you 
click using 'right-click' - you have to click menu again to enable 
further navigation of the same frame-pane.

However, Netsurf developers could implement this way of working and 
still use the navigate buttons, which is what they are there for after 
all: Click on the frame-pane you wish to navigate, then click on the 
appropriate Navigate button.



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Re: NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder

[Jim Nagel]

Russell Hafter - Lists  wrote on 29 Apr:

> It was not possible to use the Royal Mail's Address Finder
> with NetSurf 1.2, though many of the more recent test builds
> did work OK.

> I have just tried it with NetSurf 2.0 and there is a problem
> again.

> www.royalmail.com/postcodes


works OK here.  RiscPC, OS 4.39, Netsurf 2.0 (2009-04-23).


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'back' behaviour in framesets

[Richard Porter]

Netsurf's behaviour is a little bit inconsistent or at least 
inconvenient with framesets. For example go to 
http://www.bestmoments.at/catago/BestMoments/FE/Index/index

and click on "ZU DEN BILDERN". The main frame changes but the back 
icon is not enabled. However the menu allows you to select Navigate > 
Back one page. Having gone back to the first page the reverse applies 
and you can go forward one page using the menu but not the toolbar 
icon.

You need to click Menu in the main frame, so I can see what's 
happening but it's not particularly helpful. It would be better if the 
forward and back icons let you step through the 'pages' actually seen 
regardless of their structure. I think most browsers do this.

A further drawback with the present behaviour is that if you arrived 
at the frameset from somewhere else and have been browsing it for a 
while you can click on back which will completely lose your place. 
Then when you click the forward icon you have to start again at the 
beginning. This is particularly bad if the whole site uses one 
frameset or is masked in a frameset which is there to show a different 
domain (don't you hate it when people do that).

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Re: NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder

[Russell Hafter - Lists]

In article <5053af3c60brian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian
Jordan  wrote:

> In article <5053ad248brh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell
>Hafter - Lists  wrote:

> > It was not possible to use the Royal Mail's Address
> > Finder with NetSurf 1.2, though many of the more recent
> > test builds did work OK.

> > I have just tried it with NetSurf 2.0 and there is a
> > problem again.

> > www.royalmail.com/postcodes

> [Snip]

> Works well here

> VirtualRPC-AdjustSA RISC OS 6.16 NetSurf r7370

It was working fine with r7127, but not with 2.0

However, there seems to have been a certain amount of
knicker-twisting going on somewhere.

The icon bar started jerking rather than scrolling, causing
me to shut down.

This left an otherwsie blank iconbar, except for the NetSurf
icon.

Restarting, and now 2.0 is behaving itself properly.

panic over.

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Re: NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder

[Brian Jordan]

In article <5053ad248brh.li...@phone.coop>,
   Russell Hafter - Lists  wrote:
> It was not possible to use the Royal Mail's Address Finder
> with NetSurf 1.2, though many of the more recent test builds
> did work OK.

> I have just tried it with NetSurf 2.0 and there is a problem
> again.

> www.royalmail.com/postcodes

[Snip]

Works well here

VirtualRPC-AdjustSA
RISC OS 6.16
NetSurf r7370

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Re: NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder

[Dr Peter Young]

On 29 Apr 2009  Russell Hafter - Lists  wrote:

> It was not possible to use the Royal Mail's Address Finder
> with NetSurf 1.2, though many of the more recent test builds
> did work OK.

> I have just tried it with NetSurf 2.0 and there is a problem
> again.

> www.royalmail.com/postcodes

> When entering info into the form here, while the cursor
> moves along the space, no characters appear to be entered.

> It does not appear to be a case of, for some reason, white
> characters being entered on a white ground, as if you do
> enter apparently invisible data and then click the find
> button, it behaves as though no data has been entered.

> Anyone else seen this?

Works OK here with test build r7359 on RISC OS 5.13.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder

[Russell Hafter - Lists]

It was not possible to use the Royal Mail's Address Finder
with NetSurf 1.2, though many of the more recent test builds
did work OK.

I have just tried it with NetSurf 2.0 and there is a problem
again.

www.royalmail.com/postcodes

When entering info into the form here, while the cursor
moves along the space, no characters appear to be entered.

It does not appear to be a case of, for some reason, white
characters being entered on a white ground, as if you do
enter apparently invisible data and then click the find
button, it behaves as though no data has been entered.

Anyone else seen this?

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