Quit and Restart Required

2009-05-19 Thread list
I have this problem where after maybe 5 or 6 pages on certtain site the
pages refuse to load. Showing a countdown by seconds as it tries. After
60s I give up, quit NS, restart and the page loads up nicely within couple
a seconds. BUT then the 4th or 5th page does the delay thing again... and
so on. 

For the record the pages in question occur here 
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?

and tonight it happened here
http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/amplifiers-c-15.html where after looking at
a few types of mast-head amps, I couldn't get any further til I
quit/restarted NS.

Any thoughts?

RO 5.13 and 5.14
NS  r7453 and r7522
Aemulor NOT running

Brian
Auckland




Re: Save as drawfile broken in r7513

2009-05-19 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 18 May 2009  Gary Jones localn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 In message 3b11435c50.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk
   Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:

 On 16 May 2009  Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 In article 9a0b0a5c50.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:

 Anyone going to post a bug report?

 As I brought it to the attention of this list I thought I'd better
 submit a bug report but when I tried to submit it I got Sorry,
 netsurf was unable to display that page. Maybe I've done something
 wrong but the sourceforge page doesn't seem very NS friendly.

OK, done the bug report, but I wish it had been done by someone with 
more understanding.

BTW, sorry for wasting time with bug 2788245, caused by a corrupt 
font.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: Quit and Restart Required

2009-05-19 Thread Tony Moore
On 19 May 2009, list l...@clear.net.nz wrote:

 I have this problem where after maybe 5 or 6 pages on certtain site
 the pages refuse to load. Showing a countdown by seconds as it tries.
 After 60s I give up, quit NS, restart and the page loads up nicely
 within couple a seconds. BUT then the 4th or 5th page does the delay
 thing again... and so on.

Iconbar Choices...  Connection, try increasing the number of fetches.

Tony






Re: Quit and Restart Required

2009-05-19 Thread list
On 19 May, Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 On 19 May 2009, list l...@clear.net.nz wrote:
  I have this problem where after maybe 5 or 6 pages on certtain site
  the pages refuse to load. Showing a countdown by seconds as it tries.
  After 60s I give up, quit NS, restart and the page loads up nicely
  within couple a seconds. BUT then the 4th or 5th page does the delay
  thing again... and so on.
 Iconbar Choices...  Connection, try increasing the number of fetches.
 Tony

It was 40. 
I have now put it up to 99 in case that helps.

Brian




Re: Missing up-arrow in menus?

2009-05-19 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 19 May, Simon Smith  wrote in message
  80819a5d50.zen44...@zen.co.uk:

 My preferred desktop font is Homerton Medium, which does not contain a glyph
 for the hollow up-arrow sometimes used to indicate Shift in application
 menus. For example, NetSurf tells me that to save a page I should press F3,
 and to full-save a page I should press ... F3. I can get the symbol back by
 reverting to the system font, which I'd rather not do. Are there any other
 work-arounds? NetSurf is not the only victim, although it is the main app. I
 use that's affected - mainly because Netsurf actually troubles to mention
 the shortcuts it uses in its menus.

IIRC it's an issue with the way that RISC OS 5's Font Manager handles the Wimp
symbols in conjunction with certain fonts.  It was discussed in depth on the
Iyonix support list a while back and, again IIRC, one of those people with
more knowledge of the subject than me explained what the solution was.

Since it's nothing to do with NetSurf, you probably want to ask the
question again over there.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/




Re: Quit and Restart Required

2009-05-19 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 19 May 2009 as I do recall,
  l...@clear.net.nz wrote:

 I have this problem where after maybe 5 or 6 pages on certtain site the
 pages refuse to load. Showing a countdown by seconds as it tries. After
 60s I give up, quit NS, restart and the page loads up nicely within couple
 a seconds. BUT then the 4th or 5th page does the delay thing again... and
 so on. 
 
This sounds like the old 'singletasking while fetching stylesheets'
problem (which, as I understand it, only manifests on RISC OS and
therefore cannot be fixed by any of the development team's debugging
tools).

The symptom is that NetSurf starts to singletask when performing a
'secondary' fetch, i.e. one where the countdown shows to the right of
the main downloading size display, and that everything *except* this
countdown freezes;  if you happen to have that area of screen visible
you will see it updating constantly until the time reaches about 180
seconds, whereupon the fetch times out and normal operation resumes.

In other words, you don't actually have to quit NetSurf:   just sit out
the three minutes

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Confession is good for the soul, but bad for the career.



Re: Missing up-arrow in menus?

2009-05-19 Thread Simon Smith
In message 200905181949.06...@zamez.strcprstskrzkrk.co.uk
  James Bursa ja...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Monday 18 May 2009, Simon Smith wrote:
  My preferred desktop font is Homerton Medium, which does not contain a
  glyph for the hollow up-arrow sometimes used to indicate Shift in
  application menus. snip
 
 The Wimp should automatically use this symbol from the WIMPSymbol font if it 
 isn't in your chosen font. WIMPSymbol comes in ROM.
 
 I can think of two possibilities:
 
 1. Your Font$Path is missing the ROM fonts directory Resources:$.Fonts.
Try *Show Font$Path to check.
 
 2. You have a non-standard Homerton Medium that has an empty glyph for the 
arrow instead of no glyph. Homerton Medium is also in ROM, but you might 
have it somewhere else too. Run !NetSurf.FixFonts to check for this.


Well, I too had been assuming the problem was somehow font-related, but in
my case the culprit was ROOL's WimpSA module (downloadable as 'NewWimp'
about a year ago, which I presume is where I got it from). This module
extends the Window Manager to allow solid icons (ie without transparent
pixels) to be used for the window tools. And it's been fixed since I
downloaded it.

But thanks to the those who tried to help.

-- 
Simon Smith

Where there's muck there's hope.



Re: Quit and Restart Required

2009-05-19 Thread list
On 20 May, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote:
 This sounds like the old 'singletasking while fetching stylesheets'
 problem [...snip] In other words, you don't actually have to quit
 NetSurf:   just sit out the three minutes

Yes that's the syndrome. I can't close the offending window to stop the
fetch, and thought I was quite silly when waiting that 60+ min. Now I see
I have yet to experience silly ;)

Tony Moore also asked me about free memory: 

In the area of 300+MB.

Brian