Re: LloydsTSB

2009-10-14 Thread Geoffrey Baxendale
In message 1255478230.32582.203.ca...@duiker
  John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:


 On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 19:54 +0100, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:
  In message 1255458566.32582.200.ca...@duiker
John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
 
  
   On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 19:17 +0100, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:
Hi,
   
LloydsTSB has recently stopped working for me after years of trouble
free operation. I don't think it's Netsurf as V2.1 doesn't work either.
I suspect they have loaded their site with Javascript or it's a Browser
detection problem. Having said that Organo2 works OK. Try:
https://online.lloydstsb.co.uk/account.ibc or try loging on from the
home page.
  
   It really is NetSurf. Please see
  
   https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2872051group_id=51719atid=464312
  
  Thanks John, that at least rules out finger trouble at this end, but why
  does it not work with V2.1 if it is due to a recent change in Netsurf?

 It isn't due to a recent change in NetSurf. NetSurf's cookie handling
 hasn't changed for ages. I suspect that the LloydsTSB site has tightened
 up its cookie handling.

That makes sense John, thank you the explanation. I thought it had to be
a change at their end, but didn't realise Netsurfs cookie handling was
iffy.

 However, the fact remains that NetSurf's cookie handling in this
 particular case is wrong and needs to be fixed. My comment on the above
 linked bug report tells you how to work around the issue for the
 timebeing.

Sorry, I hadn't spotted your comment, I'll give that a try.

 John.

TTFN
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Re: LloydsTSB

2009-10-14 Thread John
On 13 Oct, Geoffrey Baxendale thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
 LloydsTSB has recently stopped working for me after years of trouble
 free operation.

I thought I was the only one! After much telephoning, I found out that
nothing has changed at the LloydsTSB website end, so in the end found the
solution was to delete the entire cookies file. Either it is a
tightening-up by them, or something duff with the cookie. Anyway, starting
afresh, all is back to normal for me  :o)

John

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(housekeeping) private copies vs list

2009-10-14 Thread Jim Nagel
please, if sending a private copy to somebody while posting to the 
list, put the list in the TO field and the private copy in CC or BCC?

then people's filtering systems will be happy.

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Re: (housekeeping) private copies vs list

2009-10-14 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:32:00 +0100
Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

 please, if sending a private copy to somebody while posting to the 
 list, put the list in the TO field and the private copy in CC or BCC?
 
 then people's filtering systems will be happy.

You mean you don't filter based on To or CC as well as List-Id? :)

B.



LloydsTSB

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Symes
Interesting stuff...

Yesterday Fay's NetSurf worked okay with LTSB, today it presented the
known message.

NetSurf on this machine is still loggin on to LTSB okay as is the version
installed on VRPC Adjust-SA on the XP box next to me.
BTW. On this machine I have a number of .co.uk cookies.

Cleared out her Cookies and now LTSB is okay on her machine.

Strange business...

Dave

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Re: (housekeeping) private copies vs list

2009-10-14 Thread Dave Lawton

On Wed, October 14, 2009 6:01 pm, Rob Kendrick wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:32:00 +0100
 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

 please, if sending a private copy to somebody while posting to the
 list, put the list in the TO field and the private copy in CC or BCC?

 then people's filtering systems will be happy.

 You mean you don't filter based on To or CC as well as List-Id? :)

 B.


Perhaps you meant to say 'Oh, are you not able, because you are using a
restricted client, to filter on To or CC as well as List-Id? :)

Please be so kind as to set 'Reply To:netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org'
or other as appropriate :^)
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Re: (housekeeping) private copies vs list

2009-10-14 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 14 Oct 2009  Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:32:00 +0100
 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

 please, if sending a private copy to somebody while posting to the
 list, put the list in the TO field and the private copy in CC or BCC?
 
 then people's filtering systems will be happy.

 You mean you don't filter based on To or CC as well as List-Id? :)

Or return-path?

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: (housekeeping) private copies vs list

2009-10-14 Thread Jim Nagel
Rob Kendrick  wrote on 14 Oct:

 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:32:00 +0100
 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

 please, if sending a private copy to somebody while posting to the
 list, put the list in the TO field and the private copy in CC or BCC?
 
 then people's filtering systems will be happy.

 You mean you don't filter based on To or CC as well as List-Id? :)

exactly.  of course i could filter on all those fields.  but then when 
somebody sends ME a personal copy the filter would send it to the 
general list folder where it would not get the priority attention the 
sender intends.


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spectacular crash on trying to print

2009-10-14 Thread Jim Nagel
using Netsurf r9629 i had two pages open:  a long Drobe article and a 
longish Wikipedia article.  tried to print the Wikipedia one 
(!Printers+ 1.91a), specifying stop at end of web page.

Netsurf crashes (but, unusually?, the Wikipedia window stays open), 
then Wimp crashes, then Edit, then Pinboard, ...  nothing for it but 
Ctrl-break.

logfile:  www.bnagel.net/dad/netsurflog091014.zip (1.7M)

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Re: (housekeeping) private copies vs list

2009-10-14 Thread Steve Fryatt
Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

 Rob Kendrick  wrote on 14 Oct:
 
  You mean you don't filter based on To or CC as well as List-Id? :)
 
 exactly.  of course i could filter on all those fields.  but then when
 somebody sends ME a personal copy the filter would send it to the general
 list folder where it would not get the priority attention the sender
 intends.

In that situation, you would get two copies: the one via the list would end
up filtered on the List-Id field as intended, and the personal copy woild
end up in your inbox.  It's always worked fine here (I *only* filter on
List-Id or its equivalent, where possible).

-- 
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http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/



Re: (housekeeping) private copies vs list

2009-10-14 Thread Jim Nagel
Steve Fryatt  wrote on 14 Oct :

 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

 Rob Kendrick  wrote on 14 Oct:
 
 You mean you don't filter based on To or CC as well as List-Id? :)
 
 exactly.  of course i could filter on all those fields.  but then when
 somebody sends ME a personal copy the filter would send it to the general
 list folder where it would not get the priority attention the sender
 intends.

 In that situation, you would get two copies: the one via the list would end
 up filtered on the List-Id field as intended, and the personal copy woild
 end up in your inbox.  It's always worked fine here (I *only* filter on
 List-Id or its equivalent, where possible).

i've been filtering on To = *Netsurf-users* ;
have now changed To to List-ID

sending myself a personal copy to myself (rather than cc) to see 
if your suggestion works.


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Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk