Re: peculiar F3 crash saving an Archive web page

2011-05-27 Thread Tony Moore
On 27 May 2011, Jim Nagel  wrote:
> Tony Moore  wrote on 27 May:
> > On 27 May 2011, Jim Nagel  wrote:
>
> > > this crash is repeatable; i'm mystified:
> > >
> > > www.archivemag.co.uk, click on the URLs link in the left-hand
> > > menu, it loads, mouse over the main frame, F3 to save it --
> > > Netsurf immediately quits leaving hourglass running.
> > >reload Netsurf, same sequence repeats.
>
> > No problem here. RPCemu, also with OS 4.39, Netsurf r12436.
>
> you're not by any chance working on a cached version of the Archive
> URLs page?

No. My boot sequence deletes NetSurf's Cache, Log, Cookies and URL
files, when the machine is started, each day.

> it was revised yesterday and it's the revised version where i get the
> crashes.
>
> that said, i downloaded Netsurf r12443 and no longer get the problem.

Great.

> something for the freak show in Curio City, i suppose.

I had one a few days ago! see


Tony







Re: peculiar F3 crash saving an Archive web page

2011-05-27 Thread Jim Nagel
Tony Moore  wrote on 27 May:

> On 27 May 2011, Jim Nagel  wrote:

>> this crash is repeatable; i'm mystified:
>>
>> www.archivemag.co.uk, click on the URLs link in the left-hand menu, it
>> loads, mouse over the main frame, F3 to save it -- Netsurf immediately
>> quits leaving hourglass running.
>>reload Netsurf, same sequence repeats.

> No problem here. RPCemu, also with OS 4.39, Netsurf r12436.

you're not by any chance working on a cached version of the Archive 
URLs page?  it was revised yesterday and it's the revised version 
where i get the crashes.

that said, i downloaded Netsurf r12443 and no longer get the problem.


something for the freak show in Curio City, i suppose.


-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk



Re: peculiar F3 crash saving an Archive web page

2011-05-27 Thread Tony Moore
On 27 May 2011, Jim Nagel  wrote:

> this crash is repeatable; i'm mystified:
>
> www.archivemag.co.uk, click on the URLs link in the left-hand menu, it
> loads, mouse over the main frame, F3 to save it -- Netsurf immediately
> quits leaving hourglass running.
>reload Netsurf, same sequence repeats.

No problem here. RPCemu, also with OS 4.39, Netsurf r12436.

Tony






Re: peculiar F3 crash saving an Archive web page

2011-05-27 Thread cj
In article <577bf2d951@nails.abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:
> this crash is repeatable; i'm mystified:

> www.archivemag.co.uk, click on the URLs link in the left-hand menu,
> it loads, mouse over the main frame, F3 to save it -- Netsurf
> immediately quits leaving hourglass running.

>reload Netsurf, same sequence repeats.

Not here it doesn't. Works as expected. Iyonix RISC OS 5.16. Netsurf
r12436.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: peculiar F3 crash saving an Archive web page

2011-05-27 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 27 May 2011  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> this crash is repeatable; i'm mystified:

> www.archivemag.co.uk, click on the URLs link in the left-hand menu, it
> loads, mouse over the main frame, F3 to save it -- Netsurf immediately
> quits leaving hourglass running.
>reload Netsurf, same sequence repeats.

> this is shortly after a reboot.  a few minutes ago it crashed from the
> same F3 but froze the machine, hence the reboot.

> from the same menu, the Booklets or Prices frames save with no
> problem.

> curiouser, menu Page>Save does the job fine, whereas F3 crashes.

> RiscPC with OS 4.39, Netsurf r12436.

FWIW it works as it should do here; r12443 and RISC OS 5.16.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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peculiar F3 crash saving an Archive web page

2011-05-27 Thread Jim Nagel
this crash is repeatable; i'm mystified:

www.archivemag.co.uk, click on the URLs link in the left-hand menu, it loads, 
mouse over the main frame, F3 to save it -- Netsurf immediately quits leaving 
hourglass running.
   reload Netsurf, same sequence repeats.

this is shortly after a reboot.  a few minutes ago it crashed from the 
same F3 but froze the machine, hence the reboot.

from the same menu, the Booklets or Prices frames save with no 
problem.

curiouser, menu Page>Save does the job fine, whereas F3 crashes.

RiscPC with OS 4.39, Netsurf r12436.

-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk



Hard spaces (was Generic 'font' styling in CSS)

2011-05-27 Thread Gavin Wraith
In message <51d9dde821joh...@ukgateway.net> you wrote:

> The problem is with NetSurf replacing spaces with hard spaces.
> 
> Easily solved using, for example, !ConvText using a script line of the form:
> 
>   [160]:[32]  |This turns a hard space into a normal one
> 
> - or you could use your favourite text editor to search and replace.
>  
> It can be useful to have a display font which shows hard spaces differently
> to check.  A bit annoying, tho', for displaying news and mail from lazy
> typers who catch the Alt key whilst typing spaces.

Unintended hard spaces can be a nuisance. That is why RiscLua, for example,
parses hard spaces as spaces, along with tabs and newlines. Inside strings 
and comments they are not translated. 

-- 
Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com)
Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/



Re: Generic 'font' styling in CSS

2011-05-27 Thread Tim Hill
In article <51d9dde821joh...@ukgateway.net>, John Williams
 wrote:
> In article <51d9dc4a02...@timil.com>, Tim Hill  wrote:

[snip]

Okay, you can forget what I posted, which was wrong. A re-boot reinstated
NetSurf (r12443)'s ability to cut'n'paste and I have not noticed problems
with any hard spaces either.

-- 
Tim Hill
..
www.timil.com




Re: Generic 'font' styling in CSS

2011-05-27 Thread John Williams
In article <51d9dc4a02...@timil.com>,
   Tim Hill  wrote:

> For anyone not familiar, http://w3schools.com is an excellent resource.

 [Snip]

> I say maybe because it doesn't work with Netsurf it seems.

The problem is with NetSurf replacing spaces with hard spaces.

Easily solved using, for example, !ConvText using a script line of the form:

  [160]:[32]  |This turns a hard space into a normal one

- or you could use your favourite text editor to search and replace.


It can be useful to have a display font which shows hard spaces differently
to check.  A bit annoying, tho', for displaying news and mail from lazy
typers who catch the Alt key whilst typing spaces.

John




Generic 'font' styling in CSS

2011-05-27 Thread Tim Hill
In article ,
   Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> So,  should work...
> and yes, it does.   :-)

http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_font

Is another good example. 

(For anyone not familiar, http://w3schools.com is an excellent resource.
Whilst full explanations are not always there, examining their code -
maybe cutting and pasting - pays dividends. I say maybe because it
doesn't work with Netsurf it seems.)

-- 
Tim Hill
..
www.timil.com