Re: NetSurf and LTSB
On 02 Oct, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: Anyone else here using NS to work their LTSB online banking? Using a slighty older version and now, r12913 29th Sept, LTSB online banking is now unusable here. Login and Memorable info can still be done, but thereafter only a small section of the stuff is available. Account Overview, very strangely displayed and Mini statements, again very strangely displayed, but nothing else is visible. Anyone else finding this the case? Dave FWIW. Works perfectly okay on PC Firefox. JavaScript again I guess... I guess no one else uses NS with LTSB, as this AM (Monday) still unusable. Dave -- Dave Triffid
actual updates inside !Boot and !System
John Harrison wrote on Sep23 (in Netsurf 2.8 released - Thank you!): ... it's worth checking whether anything in System or Boot has been updated as well. In this case it had (judging by the timestamp) so I merged them as well. Unicode was the thing that had a recent timestamp. As a frequent updater to the latest test versions of Netsurf, I've often wished the developers could supply an extra little Readme to say when these supporting items (Iconv, Unicode etc) are actually changed. It would save the palaver every time of digging down several levels to check datestamps, as John did, or of going through the palaver of merging !Boot and !System every time. Here are the actual internal dates of the modules that came in the !System skeleton alongside the latest Netsurf test build (r12925): Iconv is version 0.11 dated 2011-jan-11 SharedULib is version 1.10 dated 2006-apr-10 Tinct is version 0.14 dated 2009-apr-25 URI is version 1.04 dated 2006-may-20 Yet every one of these has a filer datestamp of 2011-sep-21. In the !Boot skeleton with r12925 is the !Unicode resource, also bearing a filer timestamp of 2011-sep-21. Within it, all the Encodings (etc) files have this same timestamp, but they show no internal date, being files rather than modules. So my suggestion is an extra mini-Readme that could simply say: Items in !Boot and !System were last changed on X. If you haven't done the merge procedure since then, you should do so now. By the way, r12925 !Boot and !System each contain a /svn directory, and further /svns within each subdirectory. Is that on purpose or an oversight? Haven't seen this before. Does the merge process copy these into my system? Some users would manually drop !Boot on top of !Boot, and that certainly would. If so, I suppose it's harmless clutter, albeit needless clutter. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: actual updates inside !Boot and !System
In message 95466b1c52@nails.abbeypress.net Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: As a frequent updater to the latest test versions of Netsurf, I've often wished the developers could supply an extra little Readme to say when these supporting items (Iconv, Unicode etc) are actually changed. That's why packaging was invented! Have a look at !PackMan - it looks after all of this for you. -- Grahame Parish
frames
I have downloaded the latest test build r12932, and find that it treats frames in an entirely different way to what it test builds did less than 3 months ago. Positioning the mouse pointer over any one frame and rotating the scroll wheel used to scroll only the frame that it was underneath it; now it scrolls the whole caboodle, and reveals a previously unseen blank frame at the bottom. (??) It also scrolls (using the slider bars) much less smoothly, and rather more jerkily. I am looking at: Wild Flowers http://wildflowerfinder.org.uk/ -- Cheers Roger Burning the midnight candle at both ends of the barrel
Re: actual updates inside !Boot and !System
On 3 Oct 2011 Jim Nagel wrote: As a frequent updater to the latest test versions of Netsurf, I've often wished the developers could supply an extra little Readme to say when these supporting items (Iconv, Unicode etc) are actually changed. Surely NetSurf should RMEnsure the minimum versions of the modules it needs in the !Run file? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: frames
On 3 Oct 2011 Roger Darlington wrote: I have downloaded the latest test build r12932, and find that it treats frames in an entirely different way to what it test builds did less than 3 months ago. Positioning the mouse pointer over any one frame and rotating the scroll wheel used to scroll only the frame that it was underneath it; now it scrolls the whole caboodle, and reveals a previously unseen blank frame at the bottom. (??) It also scrolls (using the slider bars) much less smoothly, and rather more jerkily. I am looking at: Wild Flowers http://wildflowerfinder.org.uk/ wishlist It would be nice if it scrolled the frame first, and then scrolled the whole frameset when you hit the top or bottom of the frame. /wishlist Failing that, for this particular site I would prefer to be able to scroll the frame with the scroll wheel and use the right hand scroll bar for the whole caboodle. However, it's not a situation you come across very often these days. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: actual updates inside !Boot and !System
On 3 Oct, Richard Porter wrote in message fb13851c52.r...@user.minijem.plus.com: On 3 Oct 2011 Jim Nagel wrote: As a frequent updater to the latest test versions of Netsurf, I've often wished the developers could supply an extra little Readme to say when these supporting items (Iconv, Unicode etc) are actually changed. Surely NetSurf should RMEnsure the minimum versions of the modules it needs in the !Run file? AFAIAA, it does. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
Re: pre formatting broken
In article 521c86bb50ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: It looks as if text within pre /pre tags is no longer formatted correctly. Implicit line feeds are no longer honoured, so any multiline text comes out as a mess. Using r12932, but r12923 is also broken. r12898 is all right, so it has happened within the last day or so. It seems to work on http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.netsurf.user/3744 Using r12923. What URL are you testing with? -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: pre formatting broken
In article 521c8afb8ft...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: What URL are you testing with? http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0 Easiest to see the effect by looking at 8. Appendix near the bottom. The genre list should be one item per line. -- Chris Johnson
Re: pre formatting broken
On 3 Oct 2011 cj wrote: In article 521c8afb8ft...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: What URL are you testing with? http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0 Easiest to see the effect by looking at 8. Appendix near the bottom. The genre list should be one item per line. The table in section 4 seems to have gone awry too. NS seems to be getting confused by the wretched span tags. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: pre formatting broken
In article e305911c52.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 3 Oct 2011 cj wrote: In article 521c8afb8ft...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: What URL are you testing with? http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0 Easiest to see the effect by looking at 8. Appendix near the bottom. The genre list should be one item per line. The table in section 4 seems to have gone awry too. NS seems to be getting confused by the wretched span tags. Yes, there are a number of places where it goes awry - the section I mentioned is the most obvious. The code is absolutely full of span tags, but NetSurf coped with it until very recently. -- Chris Johnson