Re: NetSurf Developer Workshop

2012-11-06 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 5 Nov 2012 as I do recall,
  Vincent Sanders  wrote:

> We held our latest developer workshop this weekend, I have written
> about it on my blog[1] for those who might be interested in what we got
> up to.
>
> [1]http://vincentsanders.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/another-netsurf-developer-workshop.html
>
Ninety-six man-hours of work - impressive!   (And I like/approve of the
way that the goals included *removing* a large amount of code)

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Re: small problem with raspberry pi site

2012-11-06 Thread Daniel Silverstone
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:09:30PM +, John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
> >> Problem still happening today on CI #607.
> >> I have now submitted a bug report.
> > Fixed.
> I am speechless:) but as Obi-Wan Kenobi might have put it: "What took 
> you so long!

Ahem, we're all volunteers.  A tad less cheek please.

D.

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Re: small problem with raspberry pi site

2012-11-06 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
Michael Drake  wrote

> In article ,
>John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:

>> Problem still happening today on CI #607.
>> I have now submitted a bug report.

> Fixed.

I am speechless:) but as Obi-Wan Kenobi might have put it: "What took 
you so long!


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Re: small problem with raspberry pi site

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Drake
In article ,
   John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:

> Problem still happening today on CI #607.
> I have now submitted a bug report.

Fixed.

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Re: NetSurf Developer Workshop

2012-11-06 Thread John Harrison

> Most of the JS I've ever encountered ...

IME JS is often used to hide e-mail addresses from web crawlers looking for
spam fodder.  Currently such addresses (and sometimes the associated names)
are invisible.  Tt will be a great improvement being able to see them.

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Re: small problem with raspberry pi site

2012-11-06 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
John Rickman Iyonix  wrote

> Version 2.9, and version 3.0 (2012-10-03_19-43-06) of NetSurf mess up
> the top menu line of the raspberry pi home page by overlaying the
> text, "Skip to primary content" over the menu items.
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/

Problem still happening today on CI #607.
I have now submitted a bug report. The problem is similar to bug 
3577471 reported by Chris Young but his problem was not present with 
version 2.9.

The problem is minor, but it is likely to be the first experience of 
NetSurf for new users who have bought a Raspberry Pi because NetSurf 
is shipped with both the RISC OS and Raspian Linux.

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Re: More graceful handling of failed image renders?

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Drake
In article ,
   Martin Bazley  wrote:

> CI #607 works much better.  Thank you!  (Well, it now displays "ff fc"
> instead of an image, but that's still preferable to the alternative.
> Any RISC OS-friendly Unicode fonts with this character in them?)

I just used the OBJECT REPLACEMENT CHARACTER:

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/fffc/index.htm

Some font I converted with TTF2f must include it.  Maybe Cyberbit or Arial
Unicode MS.

If anyone wants to help they could create and add the glyph to
!NetSurf.Resources.Fonts.NSSymbol.

Cheers,

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Re: NetSurf Developer Workshop

2012-11-06 Thread Martin Bazley
The following bytes were arranged on 5 Nov 2012 by Rob Kendrick :

> It should be noted that if we do manage to get a RISC OS build of
> NetSurf 3.0 with JavaScript support (at the moment we do not have the
> actual interpreter built for RISC OS, but do have its dependancies
> built), it will not work on sites that do dynamic layout changes.
> Basically, it will only be useful in the first instance for the type of
> JavaScripts that only look but don't touch the document, and for
> document.write()-type generation.

I have been wondering about that.  I saw the JavaScript work going into
the browser, but thought, "Surely they don't have a layout engine that
can cope yet?"  Most of the JS I've ever encountered is there for no
better purpose than producing flashy page transitions (a classic example
of style over substance, and the bane of the web), so presumably NetSurf
isn't much use at those yet.

I do hope it at least does something about the perennial curse of
"Warning: button could not be activated", though.  Presumably mostly for
the benefit of these people:

http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/33891938791/but-we-sanitize-input-with-javascript

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Re: More graceful handling of failed image renders?

2012-11-06 Thread Martin Bazley
The following bytes were arranged on 6 Nov 2012 by Michael Drake :

> In article <5097fc3c.6080...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk>,
>Chris Young  wrote:
> > On 04/11/12 16:16, Martin Bazley wrote:
>
> > > if an error occurs (e.g. JPEG data is invalid or otherwise fails to
> > > decode), the redraw of the entire section is cancelled.
>
> > Sounds as if this might be a manifestation of bug #3435099
>
> Fixed.

CI #607 works much better.  Thank you!  (Well, it now displays "ff fc"
instead of an image, but that's still preferable to the alternative.
Any RISC OS-friendly Unicode fonts with this character in them?)

Hopefully this'll also take care of an occasional problem I've had on
Twitter where a couple of people's avatar images are broken and take
their tweets and most of the rest of the page down with them.

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Re: arstechnica.com

2012-11-06 Thread John Williams
In article <52ea56827achr...@care4free.net>,
   Chris Gransden  wrote:

> On the main page of arstechnica.com some of the text has the top chopped
> off.

A bit like the links to the right of the search dialogue box at:

http://www.google.co.uk/

- a long-standing problem.

John




Re: Strange rendering problem

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Drake
In article <19da56ea52.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
   Richard Porter  wrote:
> On 6 Nov 2012 Michael Drake  wrote:

> > Fixed.

> I'm not sure if this is related, but now go to:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/06/credit_card_sized_mobile_made_for_pensioners/

> The picture is just a large pink square with a red border. You can 
> save the object as a jpeg which you can then view normally in 
> !DPlngScan etc. This is in #606 - #596 gave me a white square.

Yes, we changed how we deal with images that we fail to decode.  Now they
are indicated as you see in #606, and you can open a context menu over
them and save them to try with another app.

Previously they caused the rendering of the page to be aborted, causing
odd redraw glitches.

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Re: Strange rendering problem

2012-11-06 Thread Richard Porter
On 6 Nov 2012 Richard Porter  wrote:

> I'm not sure if this is related, but now go to:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/06/credit_card_sized_mobile_made_
> for_pensioners/

> The picture is just a large pink square with a red border. You can
> save the object as a jpeg which you can then view normally in
> !DPlngScan etc. This is in #606 - #596 gave me a white square.

The Reg has now changed the image. It's a different file that displays 
properly, so it looks like the original one was broken.

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Re: Strange rendering problem

2012-11-06 Thread Richard Porter
On 6 Nov 2012 Michael Drake  wrote:

> In article ,
>Richard Porter  wrote:
>> Open the following web page:
>> http://www.studiospares.com/search?q=tascam&perpage=10&ivtype=soundcards

>> #596 on RO6.16

> Fixed.

I'm not sure if this is related, but now go to:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/06/credit_card_sized_mobile_made_for_pensioners/

The picture is just a large pink square with a red border. You can 
save the object as a jpeg which you can then view normally in 
!DPlngScan etc. This is in #606 - #596 gave me a white square.

I'm not thinking of getting one nay time soon :)

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arstechnica.com

2012-11-06 Thread Chris Gransden

On the main page of arstechnica.com some of the text has the top chopped
off.

Also where the text overlays an image only the first word that overlays the
image clips the image to a white background.

Chris.




Re: Strange rendering problem

2012-11-06 Thread Richard Porter
On 6 Nov 2012 Michael Drake  wrote:

> In article ,
>Richard Porter  wrote:
>> Open the following web page:
>> http://www.studiospares.com/search?q=tascam&perpage=10&ivtype=soundcards

>> #596 on RO6.16

> Fixed.

Thanks.

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Re: Strange rendering problem

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Drake
In article ,
   Richard Porter  wrote:
> Open the following web page:
> http://www.studiospares.com/search?q=tascam&perpage=10&ivtype=soundcards

> #596 on RO6.16

Fixed.

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Re: More graceful handling of failed image renders?

2012-11-06 Thread Michael Drake
In article <5097fc3c.6080...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk>,
   Chris Young  wrote:
> On 04/11/12 16:16, Martin Bazley wrote:

> > if an error occurs (e.g. JPEG data is invalid or otherwise fails to
> > decode), the redraw of the entire section is cancelled.

> Sounds as if this might be a manifestation of bug #3435099

Fixed.

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