Re: Orpheus Home page

2013-05-06 Thread Tony Moore
 On 1 May 2013, Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk
 wrote:

[snip]

  I think it is highly likely that NetSurf 3.0 has been built without
  JavaScript support.

At present, both http://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/1/topics/1847
and the ChangeLog assert that NetSurf 3.0 offers 'early and primitive
JavaScript support'. However, it would appear that this is untrue.

Is it intended to rebuild NetSurf 3.0 and/or alter the ChangeLog so that
they are mutually consistent?

Tony






Re: Orpheus Home page

2013-05-06 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message 3c58a64753.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk
 on 6 May 2013 Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 On 1 May 2013, Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk
 wrote:

 [snip]

 I think it is highly likely that NetSurf 3.0 has been built without
 JavaScript support.

 At present, both http://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/1/topics/1847
 and the ChangeLog assert that NetSurf 3.0 offers 'early and primitive
 JavaScript support'. However, it would appear that this is untrue.

 Is it intended to rebuild NetSurf 3.0 and/or alter the ChangeLog so that
 they are mutually consistent?

If you go to http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ you will 
find that the first half of the listed builds are -jsoff- and the 
second half are -json-

Scroll right down to the bottom to find the most recent json build.


Regards

Andrew
-- 
Andrew Pinder



Re: Orpheus Home page

2013-05-06 Thread Tony Moore
On 6 May 2013, Andrew Pinder andrew.pin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 In message 3c58a64753.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk
  on 6 May 2013 Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
   On 1 May 2013, Chris Young
   chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote:

  [snip]

I think it is highly likely that NetSurf 3.0 has been built
without JavaScript support.

  At present, both
  http://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/1/topics/1847 and the
  ChangeLog assert that NetSurf 3.0 offers 'early and primitive
  JavaScript support'. However, it would appear that this is untrue.

  Is it intended to rebuild NetSurf 3.0 and/or alter the ChangeLog so
  that they are mutually consistent?

 If you go to http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ you will
 find that the first half of the listed builds are -jsoff- and the
 second half are -json-

I'm aware of that - thank you. The point is that some people choose to
use the stable releases, instead of the development builds. This
discussion had its origin in a post to csa.apps by someone who had
downloaded NetSurf 3.0 and was 'having some difficulty with its JS'.

Tony






Re: Orpheus Home Page

2013-05-06 Thread Gerald Dodson
The misunderstanding seems to persist: NS 3.0 does have JS built in.

As I understand things and, as already stated before, JS is disabled when
you load NS. MenuChoicesContent takes you to the selection where you can
enable JS. With 3.0 you will always have to set what you want each time NS
is loaded, unlike the developemnt versions which will retain the choice
once selected whenever NS is subsequently reloaded.

Gerald




Re: Orpheus Home Page

2013-05-06 Thread Tony Moore
On 6 May 2013, Gerald Dodson gerald.dod...@argonet.co.uk wrote:

 The misunderstanding seems to persist: NS 3.0 does have JS built in.

Chris Young, a NetSurf Developer, thinks that it is 'highly likely' that
NetSurf 3.0 was compiled without JS support. Please see message
51815842.10...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk

The !RunImage size in NetSurf 3.0 is 3MB, which is the same as that of a
jsoff build. The !RunImage size in a json build is 5MB.

Tony






Re: Orpheus Home Page

2013-05-06 Thread Learning Partners


On Mon, 6 May, 2013 7:09 pm, Gerald Dodson wrote:
 The misunderstanding seems to persist: NS 3.0 does have JS built in.

 As I understand things and, as already stated before, JS is disabled when
 you load NS. MenuChoicesContent takes you to the selection where you can
 enable JS. With 3.0 you will always have to set what you want each time NS
 is loaded, unlike the developemnt versions which will retain the choice
 once selected whenever NS is subsequently reloaded.

 Gerald


Yes and having set that and taking into account that this is an early
implementation has anyone *actually* got JS working on 3.0 - the consensus
seems to be that this is (accidentally?) a JS off version despite what the
documentation says and the inclusion of the on/off button. I am told 3.1
is sufficiently stable to use - any comment?

John





Re: Orpheus Home Page

2013-05-06 Thread Dave Higton
In message 62523.62.172.88.224.1367871663.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co.uk
  Learning Partners lp.bo...@argonet.co.uk wrote:

 I am told 3.1 is sufficiently stable to use - any comment?

The development versions are almost always sufficiently stable to use,
despite the dire warnings.

Keep a history of a few versions, and you'll definitely be OK.

Dave


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Dev Cl #1123

2013-05-06 Thread Brian Bailey
Site

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significant differences in NetSurf rendering page from Firefox page
rendering but, in particular, jpeg obscures text.