Re: Sockets

2014-02-06 Thread Dave Higton
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 23:38:10 GMT Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:

> In message 
>   Dave Higton  wrote:
> 
>> In message 
>>   David Pitt  wrote:
>> 
>> >Geoffrey Baxendale, on 4 Feb, wrote:
>>> 
 Is it just me, or is Netsurf's sockets system awry. After a modest
 browsing session Internet access freezes up due,  I think,
  to sockets being used up. Qitting Netsurf restores order. It seems to
  have started about a couple of weeks ago. Not sure of the exact time.
 
 Risc Os 6.2 NS R1681. (JSoff)
>>> 
>> >The same thing happens here with #1694 on a Raspberry Pi, OS5.21
>> (31Jan14).
>>> 
>> >I have resurrected a Socket Counter application, !SockCtr, which dates
>> back
>> >to the time when Oregano2 managed to do a similar trick. It is a
>> frontend to
>> >David Ruck's SocketCount.
>>> 
>> >http://pittdj.co.uk/software/index.htm
>> 
>> Thank you for that useful app, David.  It confirms Netsurf's problem
>> nicely.  The number of sockets starts off for me at 90, and gradually
>> collapses.  When it reaches 0, NS can't resolve the link.  The number
>> rarely increases at all.
>> 
>> But the clincher is: quit NS, and the number instantly goes back up
>> to 90.
>> 
>> I'm confirming it with build 1694 and 1615.  There's a big gap in
>> the versions I've kept; the latest before 1615 is 1356, which behaves
>> very differently.  Curiously, the sockets are recovered not when a
>> page closes, but when a new one is opened.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
> As far as I can tell, 1614 is OK and 1635 not. Don't have any builds
> between those here. When I have more time I will try and narrow it down
> further. (All Non JS)

Geoff, can you use SockCtr and see if 1614 reclaims sockets under the
same circumstances as 1356?  This is worth adding to the bug report.

Dave


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Re: Sockets

2014-02-06 Thread Geoffrey Baxendale
In message 
  Dave Higton  wrote:

> In message 
>   David Pitt  wrote:
>
> >Geoffrey Baxendale, on 4 Feb, wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Is it just me, or is Netsurf's sockets system awry. After a modest
> >> browsing session Internet access freezes up due,  I think,
> >>  to sockets being used up. Qitting Netsurf restores order. It seems to
> >>  have started about a couple of weeks ago. Not sure of the exact time.
> >>
> >> Risc Os 6.2 NS R1681. (JSoff)
> >
> >The same thing happens here with #1694 on a Raspberry Pi, OS5.21 (31Jan14).
> >
> >I have resurrected a Socket Counter application, !SockCtr, which dates back
> >to the time when Oregano2 managed to do a similar trick. It is a frontend to
> >David Ruck's SocketCount.
> >
> >http://pittdj.co.uk/software/index.htm
>
> Thank you for that useful app, David.  It confirms Netsurf's problem
> nicely.  The number of sockets starts off for me at 90, and gradually
> collapses.  When it reaches 0, NS can't resolve the link.  The number
> rarely increases at all.
>
> But the clincher is: quit NS, and the number instantly goes back up
> to 90.
>
> I'm confirming it with build 1694 and 1615.  There's a big gap in
> the versions I've kept; the latest before 1615 is 1356, which behaves
> very differently.  Curiously, the sockets are recovered not when a
> page closes, but when a new one is opened.
>
> Dave
>
As far as I can tell, 1614 is OK and 1635 not. Don't have any builds
between those here. When I have more time I will try and narrow it down
further. (All Non JS)

TTFN
-- 
Geoff.
Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
Bear Philosophy: "The majority are probably wrong"



Re: MousAxess

2014-02-06 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 05:25:34PM +, John-Mark Bell wrote:
> 
> More generally; all issues should be reported on the issue tracker, with
> sufficient detail to describe the problem fully. Any issue which is not
> reported in this way will almost certainly not be investigated, and will
> certainly not be tracked properly, so will be forgotten.
> 
> So, if you want something fixed, then report it on the issue tracker!

Additionally, should something bizarre happen, you should report it
straight away.  This lets us map problems to recent changes.  Saying
"oh, it's been happening for a couple of weeks" when you update daily is
not useful.

B.



Re: MousAxess

2014-02-06 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 04:26:13PM +, Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <53d4c22179li...@torrens.org.uk>,
>Richard Torrens (lists)  wrote:
> 
> > I hav found Netsurf very inclined to crash. It feels like it's caused
> > bey switch bounce, usually from the menu button. But removing MouseAxess
> > seems to stop it.
> 
> Please could someone who is seeing this crash file a bug report with a Log
> file attached. Otherwise it is unlikely ever to be investigated.

More generally; all issues should be reported on the issue tracker, with
sufficient detail to describe the problem fully. Any issue which is not
reported in this way will almost certainly not be investigated, and will
certainly not be tracked properly, so will be forgotten.

So, if you want something fixed, then report it on the issue tracker!


John-Mark.



Re: MousAxess

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Drake
In article <53d4c22179li...@torrens.org.uk>,
   Richard Torrens (lists)  wrote:

> I hav found Netsurf very inclined to crash. It feels like it's caused
> bey switch bounce, usually from the menu button. But removing MouseAxess
> seems to stop it.

Please could someone who is seeing this crash file a bug report with a Log
file attached. Otherwise it is unlikely ever to be investigated.

Cheers,

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/



Re: MousAxess

2014-02-06 Thread Brian Jordan
In article <53d4c22179li...@torrens.org.uk>,
   Richard Torrens (lists)  wrote:
> Is anyone else here using MouseAxess with NetSurf?
I am.

> I hav found Netsurf very inclined to crash. It feels like it's caused
> bey switch bounce, usually from the menu button. But removing
> MouseAxess seems to stop it.

I run as much as possible the latest development Netsurf. Netsurf does
crash from time to time and it has crossed my my mind that this may be
MouseAxess related. However in my case I have wondered whether the extra
window dragging and scrolling facilities offered by MouseAxess are
causing the problems. I haven't seen anything which would suggest switch
bounce here.

> I have not found any other programs which crash like this...
Neither have I. I'll try a few days without MouseAxess running and see if
anything comes up.

-- 
_

Brian Jordan
Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8.1 Pro
RISC OS 6.20
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