[Fwd: A curious case of attachment filetyping]

2014-12-03 Thread Learning Partners


 Original Message 
Subject: A curious case of attachment filetyping
From:John Hurley johnhur...@argonet.co.uk
Date:Wed, 3 December, 2014 11:15 am
To:  armini-supp...@freelists.org
 netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
--

I am not sure where this should go so will post to ARMini and Netsurf
lists. On Friday I could send attachments (as .doc files and .pdf) quite
normally from the ARMini X using Netsurf 3.2. On Tues they are not being
sent as applications but as text files. In that time nothing has changed
bar a problem with my Orpheus account but this is ruled out as the cause
as both the Iyonix and my Mac and PC laptop can send attachments normally.
I have looked for a Netsurf Choices setting which might have been
accidentally altered but none seem relevant.

Any advice is gratefully acknowledged


Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education


Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education




RE: [Fwd: A curious case of attachment filetyping]

2014-12-03 Thread Dave Higton
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:35:59 - (UTC) Dr. John Nurley wrote:

 I am not sure where this should go so will post to ARMini and Netsurf
 lists. On Friday I could send attachments (as .doc files and .pdf) quite
 normally from the ARMini X using Netsurf 3.2. On Tues they are not being
 sent as applications but as text files. In that time nothing has changed
 bar a problem with my Orpheus account but this is ruled out as the cause
 as both the Iyonix and my Mac and PC laptop can send attachments
 normally.

I'm confused.  Attachments normally refers to email, which would
appear to have nothing to do with Netsurf.

Can you please give more detail about what you're doing and how
you're doing it?

Dave


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Re: [ARMini-support] A curious case of attachment filetyping

2014-12-03 Thread Learning Partners

 In message 49375.86.154.71.56.1417605312.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co
 .uk
   John Hurley johnhur...@argonet.co.uk wrote:

 I have looked for a Netsurf Choices setting which might have been
 accidentally altered but none seem relevant.

Andrew Rawnsley wrote:

 Normally you'd use an email client such as Messenger Pro to send
 attachments, which would be handled by the program talking to the OS
 (it's a process that involves the MimeMap module and its corresponding
 textfile-database of MIME types).

 The MIME type list is in !Boot.Resources.!Internet.Files.MimeMap or in
 !Boot.Choices.Internet.MimeMap.  If you have backups of these files,
 it might not be daft to recover them.

Thanks for the suggestion I will try that.

 What makes this more confusing/convoluted/unknown is that you're doing
 email via a web browser.  Not really recommended for more elaborate
 tasks (eg. sending attachments).  I'd *imagine* that NetSurf will use
 the MimeMap method described above, but in a slightly more generic way
 (it doesn't know you're doing email etc, nor does it need to).
 However, it's down to the website (ie. Orpheus) to turn that into an
 actual email.  Neither you, nor Netsurf, have much/any control over
 this via webmail.

 Like I say, I wouldn't use webmail to send attachments, myself,
 although to be fair, I've also not tried Orpheus' webmail client.  I
 *can* say that last time I tried to send 3 photos via Hotmail (last
 year) it was a complete failure (via Windows browser).  Same files
 sent immediately via Messenger Pro (RISC OS).

Orpheus, using squirrel mail has been very reliable handling attachments.
Although I had problems evident on all machines over the weekend (someone
appears to have got hold of my password and altered all my configuration
settings) that is now resolved. The Iyonix and the Mac and PC are behaving
as I would expect. We use webmail because as a company we are based in
different locations and use a range of hardware so it is a common tool for
us all and works well. It is however playing up again on the ARMini as I
write this. Perhaps GCHQ are taking an interest!



 PS, silly suggestion - you *did* append /pdf and /doc to the
 filesnames?  You'd definately have issues at the receiving end if you
 didn't.

Not silly at all, but of course I did.


Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education




Re: A curious case of attachment filetyping]]

2014-12-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 01:30:58PM -, Learning Partners wrote:
 
 
  On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 Dave Higton wrote:
 
 snip
 
  I'm confused.  Attachments normally refers to email, which would
  appear to have nothing to do with Netsurf.
 
  Can you please give more detail about what you're doing and how
  you're doing it?
 
 I am using Netsurf to access Orpheus webmail for emails. Attaching files
 typed as Word and PDF last Friday was fine, they went as applications.

What do you mean, went as applications ?  One hopes they went as
files.  Can Orpheus not tell you what file type is being uploaded?

B.



Re: A curious case of attachment filetyping]]

2014-12-03 Thread Learning Partners

 On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 Rob Kendrick wrote:

snip

 What do you mean, went as applications ?  One hopes they went as
 files.  Can Orpheus not tell you what file type is being uploaded?

Usually, and until last Friday, using Netsurf on the ARMini X Orpheus
webmail recognises doc files as application/MS word - from I think the
Mime file in !Boot. Since Monday this has changed to plain/text. Ditto
with pdf. This nakes the files unreadable to non RISC OS users, who
natyurally are the majority with whom I deal and it is inconvenient to say
the least as our revenue earners are reports and publications.

This is a problem only on the ARMini running Netsurf to reach Orpheus. On
the Iyonix running Netsurf all is fine and on other platforms/ browsers,
which suggests Orpheus is not the problem - a point which Richard Brown
has made firmly. Neither Netsurf nor Orpheus appear to have Choices
settings that look as if they control this.

I am simply trying to find out where in the chain ARMini X - Netsurf -
Orpheus something might be going wrong so I can fix it. The Mime file
itself looks ok by the way. And as I say all was well last Friday and I am
not aware that I have changed anything to cause the problem. But something
is clearly corrupted in the chain. I have tried retrograding to NS 3.1 but
the problem persists. I am posting to ARMini support because the problem
of corruption could lie with the machine or Netsurf, but not for the
reasons stated is it likely to be Orpheus.


Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education




Re: routers

2014-12-03 Thread Chris Shepheard
In message 23a0f06f54.ga...@gavin.wra1th.plus.com
  Gavin Wraith ga...@wra1th.plus.com wrote:

 But my XP notebook, which I usually use to
 configure the router, seems to be behaving strangely. It can take five
 minutes for a webpage on the router to load, whether I am using wireless
 or an ethernet cable to connect the two machines. Something has to be
 wrong, but what?

If it's a Plusnet supplied Thompson/Technicolor router that sort of 
delay does not seem unusual. I have had similar delays accessing two 
different Plusnet routers from two different XP equipped computers.

Chris

-- 

Chris Shepheard writing as himself  
chris.shephe...@chrispics.co.uk
from far west Surreywww.chrispics.co.uk



Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread Cristopher Dewhurst
Hi all

Does anyone know why Netsurf scales the images on www.change.org to 
what seems like several thousand percent?

For example on the recent petition

https://www.change.org/p/new-era-should-not-become-the-end-of-an-era?utm_source=
 
action_alertutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=192906

pixels in some of the images are about an inch square on the screen so 
you have to scroll over large areas to read the text.

At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21 
Raspberry Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other platforms?

thanks,
-- 

Chris



Re: Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread David Pitt
Cristopher Dewhurst, on 3 Dec, wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Does anyone know why Netsurf scales the images on www.change.org to what
 seems like several thousand percent?
 
 For example on the recent petition
 

https://www.change.org/p/new-era-should-not-become-the-end-of-an-era?utm_source=action_alertutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=192906
 
 pixels in some of the images are about an inch square on the screen so you
 have to scroll over large areas to read the text.
 
 At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21 Raspberry
 Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other platforms?

#2419 doesn't like on the A9home.


-- 
David Pitt



Re: Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread cj
In article 54705f9528ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk,
   cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote:
 In article mpro.ng0uey005vvij012x.pit...@pittdj.co.uk,
David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote:

I don't think he did - blame Pluto, not me 8)

   At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21
   Raspberry Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other
   platforms?

 Seems to be the same on the Iyonix.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread george greenfield
In message 54705f9528ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk
  cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote:

 In article mpro.ng0uey005vvij012x.pit...@pittdj.co.uk,
David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote:
  At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21
  Raspberry Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other
  platforms?
 
 Seems to be the same on the Iyonix.
 
Same here (NS 3.2 stable release, Raspberry Pi B, RO 5.21 
(13-Sept-14).

-- 
George