Re: JavaScript
... but nothing about JavaScript support. Just work in progress. 2015-03-29 17:54 GMT+02:00 Andrew Pinder andrew.pin...@tiscali.co.uk: In message CAC85+4JSSvqQ8TmKNfYKLiczPapgU7x95Mw9PFSs1CUY3=WNsg@mail.g mail.com on 29 Mar 2015 David Feugey dfeu...@ascinfo.fr wrote: Hi. I worked on several appliances since 2000, and I'm now switching back to RISC OS. As I have total control on the applications, I would like to try to provide client appliances for these applications. I know that NetSurf has only a limited support of JavaScript. But what can we do exactly? Do you have examples of working code? The more code I'll get, the more modern will be my interfaces, and the more chance I'll have to convince my clients :) Nota: I work only with web standards, but if I can narrow my choices to be compatible with NetSurf, why not. Sounds good :-) Hopefully a developer will be along to give more complete answers, but you will find a summary of features at http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ and more detail at http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/progress.html Regards Andrew -- Andrew Pinder -- Mobile : 06 76 67 91 60
Re: BBC News
On 30 March 2015 15:24:09 BST, Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: According to http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-editors-32016166 published by the BBC, on 23 March 2015 Our new responsive design [of the BBC News website], which we've just launched for desktop computer, aims to make sure the site looks great whichever device or screen size you are on - mobile, tablet or desktop. However, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news , displayed by NetSurf #2655, on a RiscPC, seems to be a version for mobile, and looks far from 'great'. Do others see the same mess? Yes, saw this on the day it launched. I was going to whinge about it on the blog but couldn't get the page to load, and then promptly forgot. I don't know how the site picks the layout, if it's using the user-agent field then it must be assuming NetSurf is a mobile browser. Chris
Re: BBC News
In article b98f81ac54.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk, Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Do others see the same mess? Yes. Also the pages loaded from NewsUK look the same mess. -- Chris Johnson
Re: BBC News
On 30 Mar 2015 Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: In article 75868bac54.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 30 Mar 2015 Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: According to http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-editors-32016166 published by the BBC, on 23 March 2015 Our new responsive design [of the BBC News website], which we've just launched for desktop computer, aims to make sure the site looks great whichever device or screen size you are on - mobile, tablet or desktop. However, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news , displayed by NetSurf #2655, on a RiscPC, seems to be a version for mobile, and looks far from 'great'. Do others see the same mess? Yes, a horrible mess! I think this may be the same problem as the one I reported in the Malformed site thread, starting on 19 February, 2015, in that the mess I saw there is similar to the mess on the BBC site. That was a CSS problem, and now happens 100% of the time. In the interests of product improvement, we reserve the right to foul it up at any time. Best wishes, Peter. It even looks toilet solids in Firefox. Doesn't look too bad in Windows Chrome, but I still prefer the original look. Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Re) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC News
Tony Moore, on 30 Mar, wrote: According to http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-editors-32016166 published by the BBC, on 23 March 2015 Our new responsive design [of the BBC News website], which we've just launched for desktop computer, aims to make sure the site looks great whichever device or screen size you are on - mobile, tablet or desktop. This works well here on the desktop and iPad versions of Safari, the intent seems reasonable and appears well implemented in that context. However, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news , displayed by NetSurf #2655, on a RiscPC, seems to be a version for mobile, and looks far from 'great'. This helps, (a bit) http://www.bbc.co.uk/?dzf=news Do others see the same mess? It certainly goes wrong in NetSurf and the real mobile version goes even more wrong, http://m.bbc.co.uk/news JavaScript is required for the progressive jpegs, a problem for NetSurf which gets stuck with low resolution versions. Users can have their say :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-editors-31989823 https://ecustomeropinions.com/survey/survey.php?sid=264941693 -- David Pitt
Re: BBC News
In article 75868bac54.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 30 Mar 2015 Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: According to http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-editors-32016166 published by the BBC, on 23 March 2015 Our new responsive design [of the BBC News website], which we've just launched for desktop computer, aims to make sure the site looks great whichever device or screen size you are on - mobile, tablet or desktop. However, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news , displayed by NetSurf #2655, on a RiscPC, seems to be a version for mobile, and looks far from 'great'. Do others see the same mess? Yes, a horrible mess! I think this may be the same problem as the one I reported in the Malformed site thread, starting on 19 February, 2015, in that the mess I saw there is similar to the mess on the BBC site. That was a CSS problem, and now happens 100% of the time. In the interests of product improvement, we reserve the right to foul it up at any time. Best wishes, Peter. It even looks toilet solids in Firefox. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: BBC News
In message b98f81ac54.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: According to http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-editors-32016166 published by the BBC, on 23 March 2015 Our new responsive design [of the BBC News website], which we've just launched for desktop computer, aims to make sure the site looks great whichever device or screen size you are on - mobile, tablet or desktop. However, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news , displayed by NetSurf #2655, on a RiscPC, seems to be a version for mobile, and looks far from 'great'. Do others see the same mess? Tony Yes. (System details: NS 3.3 [10-Mar-15], RasPi B @ 900MHz, RO 5.21 [RC12, 12-Jan-15]). -- George
Re: BBC News
In article mpro.nm1cfo01a6ts900oj.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: [Snip] JavaScript is required for the progressive jpegs, Head/desk. [Snip] -- www.timil.com web sites * multimedia * training
Re: JavaScript
In message CAC85+4L83aiXwPEhZsqrq-oRS6kPeAWDEihZnw_UmWmgH1YOJw@mail.g mail.com on 30 Mar 2015 David Feugey dfeu...@ascinfo.fr wrote: ... but nothing about JavaScript support. Just work in progress. I take you point about lack of detail, but I'm only a user rather than a developer, so am not in a position to know what has been done but hasn't been listed on the support web pages. I do recall having a conversation with one of the developers at the Wakefield show, possibly two years ago, who said that one aspect of providing JS support involved working through a very large number of bindings in order to check they worked correctly. Regards Andrew -- Andrew Pinder
