Re: Failure to load

2016-08-23 Thread Bryan Hogan 
In message <55b447fe36d...@triffid.co.uk>
  Dave Symes  wrote:

> Alt-Break is a PITA and here very rarely if ever works, most times it just
> freezes RISC OS and can't be got out of without rebooting RISC OS.

But RISC OS was already frozen, so trying Alt-Break might get you out 
of it and if not it hasn't made the situation any worse!

Bryan.

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Re: Failure to load

2016-08-23 Thread Dave Symes 
In article ,
   Bryan Hogan  wrote:
> In message <61827.82.153.33.53.1471937563.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co 
> .uk>
>   Gerald Dodson  wrote:

> > When trying to shut down, NS seemed to just loop. I was unable to find
> > any way of gaining access to the Iyo 100 so switched of power.

> Too late for this time, but if this ever happens again remember that 
> you can press Alt-Break to just kill the currently hung task.

> Bryan.

Alt-Break is a PITA and here very rarely if ever works, most times it just
freezes RISC OS and can't be got out of without rebooting RISC OS.

Dave

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Dave Triffid

Re: Failure to load

2016-08-23 Thread Bryan Hogan 
In message <61827.82.153.33.53.1471937563.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co 
.uk>
  Gerald Dodson  wrote:

> When trying to shut down, NS seemed to just loop. I was unable to find any
> way of gaining access to the Iyo 100 so switched of power.

Too late for this time, but if this ever happens again remember that 
you can press Alt-Break to just kill the currently hung task.

Bryan.

-- 
RISC OS User Group Of London  -  http://www.rougol.jellybaby.net/
RISC OS London Show   -  http://www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk/

Re: Fail to load

2016-08-23 Thread Martin Avison 
In article <15a20671-a8e5-060e-bcfd-c85fb6d76...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:

> On 23/08/16 09:22, Gerald Dodson wrote:
> > Further to my posting just now, Organizer has been affected or is also
> > involved. When I try to load it the error message "file does not start
> > with orgdata" appears. It has been overwritten by NS.

> Sounds like it might be disc corruption.  Have you tried DiscKnight?

>  https://armclub.org.uk/products/discknight/

I tend to agree. The Organizer message means what it says: the file
OrgData which it is trying to open (in Choices or within !Organizer) does
not have 'OrgData' in the first 7 bytes of the file. Therefore it assumes
it is not a valid OrgData file. The file OrgData-bak should contain the
file before the last update, or depending on your settings, you may have
a valid recent backup in Organizer.Backups.  

Martin

Re: Fail to load

2016-08-23 Thread Michael Drake 


On 23/08/16 09:22, Gerald Dodson wrote:

Further to my posting just now, Organizer has been affected or is also
involved. When I try to load it the error message "file does not start
with orgdata" appears. It has been overwritten by NS.


Sounds like it might be disc corruption.  Have you tried DiscKnight?

https://armclub.org.uk/products/discknight/

--
Michael Drake  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/

Fail to load

2016-08-23 Thread Gerald Dodson 
Further to my posting just now, Organizer has been affected or is also
involved. When I try to load it the error message "file does not start
with orgdata" appears. It has been overwritten by NS.

Gerald

Failure to load

2016-08-23 Thread Gerald Dodson 
When trying to shut down, NS seemed to just loop. I was unable to find any
way of gaining access to the Iyo 100 so switched of power. On re starting
and trying to run NS it seems to loop. Cntr break restarts the machine and
everything else appears to run. I had been accessing a large number of
sites both with that last session and with previous sessions over the last
few days.

How should I proceed?

Gerald