Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

[Nick Roberts]

In message <8c1f76e355.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>
   Harriet Bazley  wrote:

> On 23 Nov 2016 as I do recall,
>   Jim Nagel  wrote:
> 
> > Does Netsurf not save its hotlist and history till the user quits
> > the program?
> >
> No, it doesn't.
> An attempt to avoid constant unpredictable disc accesses, I assume,
> and it's not a problem until the program crashes, but it would be
> nice at least if editing the hotlist physically updated the relevant
> file - it's not something that happens all that often, unlike opening
> new pages, and unlike in other programs there's no way to 'save your
> work' manually.   It's a bit counter-intuitive that the only way to
> ensure that changes to the program data are preserved is to quit the
> program immediately after making them!

This is a particular problem for BookMaker.

If the user adds any pages to the hotlist, BookMaker registers that the
hotlist has changed, and the "Save" button on the toolbar becomes
active. But if you save the hotlilst and then quit Netsurf, Netsurf
very kindly overwrites the version you've saved from BookMaker with its
own internal copy. This got so frustrating that now BookMaker won't let
you save a Netsurf hotlist if Netsurf is still running.

This does have one advantage - if/when Netsurf crashes, you can then
save the (updated) hotlist from BookMaker.

Eventually, I plan to add a patch to Netsurf, so that it checks on exit
for the use of a foreign hotlist manager, and avoid saving the hotlist
if one is in use. It's a bit daunting, as I'm going to have to start
from building a GCC environment on a virtual machine.

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I note that the last few issues of NetSurf do not seem to be able to
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amount of time. Some loop somewhere? Chrome on Raspbian on Rpi3
displays it almost instantaneously.

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Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

[John Rickman Iyonix]

 In article , Jim Nagel
  wrote:
> Last night I was looking for tips on how to use CSS for something on
> my website

Jim - you might find the links in the middle column on this page 
useful:-

http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx/lynxweb.html

John

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John Rickman 

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

[Harriet Bazley]

On 23 Nov 2016 as I do recall,
  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> Does Netsurf not save its hotlist and history till the user quits the
> program?
>
No, it doesn't.
An attempt to avoid constant unpredictable disc accesses, I assume, and it's
not a problem until the program crashes, but it would be nice at least if
editing the hotlist physically updated the relevant file - it's not
something that happens all that often, unlike opening new pages, and unlike
in other programs there's no way to 'save your work' manually.   It's a bit
counter-intuitive that the only way to ensure that changes to the program
data are preserved is to quit the program immediately after making them!

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Confession is good for the soul, but bad for the career.

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

[Tim Hill]

In article , Jim Nagel
 wrote:
> Last night I was looking for tips on how to use CSS for something on
> my website

[snip]

On balance, I find
www.w3schools.com 
better than HTML.com
YMMV

-- 
Tim Hill
www.timil.com

web sites * multimedia * training

Re: history and hotlist not saved; CSS site

[John Williams]

In article ,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:

> Back to original Q about when Netsurf saves its hotlist.

On quitting, same as its cookies. So if you want to do different user
stuff, NetSurf has to be quitted before changing the Choices location.

I do this to access my wife's FaceBook and GMail - with her permission, of
course. on a machine I can do something sensible with the data on! Things
like save out pictures full size, print off tickets etcetera.

For simplicity I have separate complete Choices files and a change-user
script which checks if NS is running and stops to warn me if it is. 
Quitting NS automatically seemed a bit like overkill - it helps to remember
what's going on if you have to do it yourself!

John

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