Re: Background colours
On 6 Jan 2008, Tim Hill wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Darlington > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Snip] > >> > Nope, they look okay to me. But wait! Netsurf renders the colours >> > wrongly and the _always_underlined_links_ are dark blue, rather than >> > the chosen hue of pale green (see any other browser). So you maybe >> > don't need to be able to disable colours, you perhaps need to be able >> > to turn them on!!! > >> Its pale green here (CRT, NS 28Dec07) > > It should be. The rest of this thread will reveal why, particularly > Message with ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I know, I'm not complaining. I'm telling the person who says its dark blue. -- Cheers Roger I'm a mitochondriac
Re: Background colours
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Darlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Snip] > > Nope, they look okay to me. But wait! Netsurf renders the colours > > wrongly and the _always_underlined_links_ are dark blue, rather than > > the chosen hue of pale green (see any other browser). So you maybe > > don't need to be able to disable colours, you perhaps need to be able > > to turn them on!!! > Its pale green here (CRT, NS 28Dec07) It should be. The rest of this thread will reveal why, particularly Message with ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Tim Hill, www.timil.com
Re: Background colours
On 16 Dec 2007, Tim Hill wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Symes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Got a problem... guess there is an answer but can't seem to find it. > >> Silly people > > Guilty m'lud. > >> create sites with black backgrounds, then plonk grey text >> on it... or Dark blue text. > > oops www.tightfittheatre.co.uk/index.htm > >> In Oregano, If I tick Off the "Use Document colours" the black >> background is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. > > Okay, so our text isn't the darkest blue in Netsurf, and there's more > white than grey text. Is it legible? > >> Is there a comparable option in NetSurf? I'm using NS (02 Dec 2007 >> 06:00) > > Maybe NS assumes eyes and a monitor of the highest quality? ;-) > (There are times I would like to apply gamma adjustment to web pages, to > see dark pictures or over-exposed ones without having to download and > fiddle with an editor. Not such a problem with my new spectacles. ;-)) > > I wonder how many web sites are developed on new LCDs, rather than ratty > old ray-tubes such as the example on my right: it has an okay picture as > long as the case has a sharp blow once in a while. It struggles with the > RiscPC's apparently 'weak' output and it's old, it's burnt in and it's > dying. > > > > Nope, they look okay to me. But wait! Netsurf renders the colours wrongly > and the _always_underlined_links_ are dark blue, rather than the chosen > hue of pale green (see any other browser). So you maybe don't need to be > able to disable colours, you perhaps need to be able to turn them on!!! Its pale green here (CRT, NS 28Dec07) > > Someone else can hunt around the bug-tracker for that one, I'm off to bed. > -- Cheers Roger If you don't know where you're going, you'll end up somewhere else.
Re: Background colours
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>In Oregano, If I tick Off the "Use Document colours" the black background >>is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. In Oregano, I do the same with pictures, to kick the computer faster forward. How to do these things in Netsurf? Alex'
Re: Background colours
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 14:09 +, Richard Porter wrote: > On 17 Dec 2007 Daniel Silverstone wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 12:17 +, Richard Porter wrote: > >>> Rather than spending time nagging us, you could spend that time > >>> formulating a patch to make NetSurf do this and submit it to us. > >> If I was a competent ARM/RO programmer I would be more than happy to > >> do so! > > > Presumably you would give a similar response if I said "Aah but it's all > > generic C, not ARM/RO in this case". So instead I shall urge you to file > > a bug on the bug tracker instead. > > No, I'd give you a completely different excuse :-) I have programmed > in C on Sun workstations and still have my copy of K & R! I filed a > bug report, or was it a feature request, many moons ago. I'm not sure > if it's still open. If you're familiar with C in a UNIX context, there's bags of NetSurf you can get your teeth in to without ever touching anything RISC OS or ARM specific - NetSurf is essentially a UNIX application written in C. The RISC OS front end is neatly separated from everything else. Have a dig around and see what you can fiddle with, by all means. Contributions of any kind are always welcome. B.
Re: Background colours
On 17 Dec 2007 Daniel Silverstone wrote: > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 12:17 +, Richard Porter wrote: >>> Rather than spending time nagging us, you could spend that time >>> formulating a patch to make NetSurf do this and submit it to us. >> If I was a competent ARM/RO programmer I would be more than happy to >> do so! > Presumably you would give a similar response if I said "Aah but it's all > generic C, not ARM/RO in this case". So instead I shall urge you to file > a bug on the bug tracker instead. No, I'd give you a completely different excuse :-) I have programmed in C on Sun workstations and still have my copy of K & R! I filed a bug report, or was it a feature request, many moons ago. I'm not sure if it's still open. -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Background colours
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 12:17 +, Richard Porter wrote: > > Rather than spending time nagging us, you could spend that time > > formulating a patch to make NetSurf do this and submit it to us. > If I was a competent ARM/RO programmer I would be more than happy to > do so! Presumably you would give a similar response if I said "Aah but it's all generic C, not ARM/RO in this case". So instead I shall urge you to file a bug on the bug tracker instead. Remember, most of the developers don't have time to read everything on this list, and indeed most of us forget anything not nicely filed in the tracker for us to think about. You might get a 'Closed: WontFix" but at least then it'll be recorded somewhere structured should another person come along complaining of the same thing. D. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.digital-scurf.org/ PGP mail accepted and encouraged.Key Id: 2BC8 4016 2068 7895
Re: Background colours
On 17 Dec 2007 Rob Kendrick wrote: > Rather than spending time nagging us, you could spend that time > formulating a patch to make NetSurf do this and submit it to us. If I was a competent ARM/RO programmer I would be more than happy to do so! -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Background colours
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 12:02 +, Richard Porter wrote: > That does in CSS what you currently do in the BODY tag. > > If we nag you for long enough will you put it in? We can alter our own > sites to work with our browsers but not all the others out there. Also > if you don't implement link colours then you shouldn't implement > background colours in the body tag, so that contrast can be preserved. Rather than spending time nagging us, you could spend that time formulating a patch to make NetSurf do this and submit it to us. I, alas, have had no time for NetSurf for weeks, and am unlikely to until well into the new year: I suspect the other developers are suffering similar. B.
Re: Background colours
On 17 Dec 2007 Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Nope, they look okay to me. But wait! Netsurf renders the colours wrongly
>> and the _always_underlined_links_ are dark blue, rather than the chosen
>> hue of pale green (see any other browser).
> NetSurf has never supported link colours set as attributes in the BODY
> tag. If you set them in the STYLE tag, they will work.
>
> body { background-color:#00;
> color: #ff; }
> a:link{ color: #ccffcc; }
> a:visited { color: #cc; }
> a:active { color: #ff; }
>
> That does in CSS what you currently do in the BODY tag.
If we nag you for long enough will you put it in? We can alter our own
sites to work with our browsers but not all the others out there. Also
if you don't implement link colours then you shouldn't implement
background colours in the body tag, so that contrast can be preserved.
--
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|_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/
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Re: Background colours
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Drake
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nope, they look okay to me. But wait! Netsurf renders the colours
> > wrongly and the _always_underlined_links_ are dark blue, rather than
> > the chosen hue of pale green (see any other browser).
> NetSurf has never supported link colours set as attributes in the BODY
> tag. If you set them in the STYLE tag, they will work.
> body { background-color:#00; color: #ff; }
> a:link{ color: #ccffcc; }
> a:visited { color: #cc; }
> a:active { color: #ff; }
> That does in CSS what you currently do in the BODY tag.
Thanks for that. I've been meaning to add that for ages. Now done. :-)
> Note also that NetSurf currently only supports link colours, not active
> and visited link colours.
A shame.
T
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Tim Hill,
www.timil.com
Re: Background colours
On 16 Dec 2007, Dave Symes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got a problem... guess there is an answer but can't seem to find it. > > Silly people create sites with black backgrounds, then plonk grey text > on it... or Dark blue text. > > In Oregano, If I tick Off the "Use Document colours" the black > background is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. > > Is there a comparable option in NetSurf? I'm using NS (02 Dec 2007 > 06:00) Ctrl-A selects all the text, which is then readable - but, of course, the layout is then not quite as intended. Tony
Re: Background colours
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nope, they look okay to me. But wait! Netsurf renders the colours wrongly
> and the _always_underlined_links_ are dark blue, rather than the chosen
> hue of pale green (see any other browser).
NetSurf has never supported link colours set as attributes in the BODY
tag. If you set them in the STYLE tag, they will work.
body { background-color:#00;
color: #ff; }
a:link{ color: #ccffcc; }
a:visited { color: #cc; }
a:active { color: #ff; }
That does in CSS what you currently do in the BODY tag.
Note also that NetSurf currently only supports link colours, not active
and visited link colours.
Best regards,
Michael
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Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Background colours
On 16 Dec 2007 Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Symes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Got a problem... guess there is an answer but can't seem to find it. >> Silly people > Guilty m'lud. >> create sites with black backgrounds, then plonk grey text >> on it... or Dark blue text. > oops www.tightfittheatre.co.uk/index.htm >> In Oregano, If I tick Off the "Use Document colours" the black >> background is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. > Okay, so our text isn't the darkest blue in Netsurf, and there's more > white than grey text. Is it legible? Yes. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Er \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Background colours
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Symes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got a problem... guess there is an answer but can't seem to find it. > Silly people Guilty m'lud. > create sites with black backgrounds, then plonk grey text > on it... or Dark blue text. oops www.tightfittheatre.co.uk/index.htm > In Oregano, If I tick Off the "Use Document colours" the black > background is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. Okay, so our text isn't the darkest blue in Netsurf, and there's more white than grey text. Is it legible? > Is there a comparable option in NetSurf? I'm using NS (02 Dec 2007 > 06:00) Maybe NS assumes eyes and a monitor of the highest quality? ;-) (There are times I would like to apply gamma adjustment to web pages, to see dark pictures or over-exposed ones without having to download and fiddle with an editor. Not such a problem with my new spectacles. ;-)) I wonder how many web sites are developed on new LCDs, rather than ratty old ray-tubes such as the example on my right: it has an okay picture as long as the case has a sharp blow once in a while. It struggles with the RiscPC's apparently 'weak' output and it's old, it's burnt in and it's dying. Nope, they look okay to me. But wait! Netsurf renders the colours wrongly and the _always_underlined_links_ are dark blue, rather than the chosen hue of pale green (see any other browser). So you maybe don't need to be able to disable colours, you perhaps need to be able to turn them on!!! Someone else can hunt around the bug-tracker for that one, I'm off to bed. -- Tim Hill, www.timil.com
Re: Background colours
On 16 Dec 2007 Kevin Wells wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dave Symes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Got a problem... guess there is an answer but can't seem to find it. >> >>Silly people create sites with black backgrounds, then plonk grey text on >>it... or Dark blue text. >> >>In Oregano, If I tick Off the "Use Document colours" the black background >>is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. > That would be a good idea for Netsurf I think. >> >>Is there a comparable option in NetSurf? I'm using NS (02 Dec 2007 06:00) >> > A bodge is to highlight the text, that sometimes works. Please see Feature Request 1528285 "Turn off document colours" raised on 2006-07-25. -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Background colours
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave Symes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Got a problem... guess there is an answer but can't seem to find it. > >Silly people create sites with black backgrounds, then plonk grey text on >it... or Dark blue text. > >In Oregano, If I tick Off the "Use Document colours" the black background >is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. That would be a good idea for Netsurf I think. > >Is there a comparable option in NetSurf? I'm using NS (02 Dec 2007 06:00) > A bodge is to highlight the text, that sometimes works. -- Kev Wells http://kevsoft.topcities.com http://kevsoft.co.uk/ http://kevsoft.co.uk/AleQuest/ ICQ 238580561 And did the countenance divine
Background colours
Got a problem... guess there is an answer but can't seem to find it. Silly people create sites with black backgrounds, then plonk grey text on it... or Dark blue text. In Oregano, If I tick Off the "Use Document colours" the black background is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. Is there a comparable option in NetSurf? I'm using NS (02 Dec 2007 06:00) Cheers Dave S --
