Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-27 Thread Ole
Am Donnerstag, den 28.11.2013, 00:12 +0100 schrieb Harriet Bazley 
:



It's definitely some kind of CSS problem and not JavaScript, because
doing a 'full save' and deleting the CSS files causes the image to
appear.


Maybe that's what the CSS designer wanted: Have the element initially 
invisible.

It can be set to visible via JavaScript in most browsers ;).

Greets,
Ole



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-27 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
  Harriet Bazley  wrote:

> On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
>   David Pitt  wrote:
>
> > Harriet Bazley, on 12 Nov, wrote:
> >
> > > As of today the 'captcha' on the fanfiction.net log-in page is no longer
> > > displaying - the only way I have found to log in now is to view the page
> > > source and double-click on the hidden link to the audio file alternative.
> > > https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php
> >
> >
> > Does this help, it does display in NetSurf #1447,
> >
> > https://m.fanfiction.net/m/login.php
> >
> Ooh, that could be handy - I've never managed to find a log-in for the
> mobile site.
>
The captcha has now disappeared from the mobile login page as well :-(

Netsurf 1505

It's definitely some kind of CSS problem and not JavaScript, because
doing a 'full save' and deleting the CSS files causes the image to
appear.   Can someone report the issue on the bug tracker? (since we are
no longer able to access the bug tracker via Netsurf...)

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

He who hesitates is last.



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-14 Thread David Pitt
In message <637bafaa53.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>
  Harriet Bazley  wrote:

> On 14 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
>   Tony Moore  wrote:

>> On 14 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley  wrote:
>>> On 14 Nov 2013 as I do recall, Tony Moore  wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.zip contains a
 full-save of the page, and a draw-file showing the entire display.
>>>
>>> If I doubleclick on your full-save, I see the same as David's
>>> screenshot above
>>
>> Is it possible that something has stuck in your NS Cache?
>>
> Seems unlikely, given that I get the same results as David on a totally
> different machine and the same results when loading from local disc as
> when accessing the remote page...

>> Try hiding
>> !Boot.Resources.!Scrap.ScrapDirs.ScrapDir.WWW.NetSurf.Cache

> No - no difference here.

Same here. Tony's full save shows the same result that I get here 
directly from the site. Deleting the cache does not alter that.

NetSurf 2.9 on Ubuntu 13.10 also misses the captcha.

Using Safari on the Mac the MIME type for the captcha is given as 
image/png whereas the filename is cap.jpg.
-- 
David Pitt



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-14 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 14 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
  Tony Moore  wrote:

> On 14 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> > On 14 Nov 2013 as I do recall, Tony Moore  wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.zip contains a
> > > full-save of the page, and a draw-file showing the entire display.
> >
> > If I doubleclick on your full-save, I see the same as David's
> > screenshot above
>
> Is it possible that something has stuck in your NS Cache?
>
Seems unlikely, given that I get the same results as David on a totally
different machine and the same results when loading from local disc as
when accessing the remote page...

> Try hiding
> !Boot.Resources.!Scrap.ScrapDirs.ScrapDir.WWW.NetSurf.Cache

No - no difference here.


[snip]
-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Questions are a burden to others, but answers are a prison for oneself.



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-14 Thread Tony Moore
On 14 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> On 14 Nov 2013 as I do recall, Tony Moore  wrote:

[snip]

> > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.zip contains a
> > full-save of the page, and a draw-file showing the entire display.
>
> If I doubleclick on your full-save, I see the same as David's
> screenshot above

Is it possible that something has stuck in your NS Cache? Try hiding
!Boot.Resources.!Scrap.ScrapDirs.ScrapDir.WWW.NetSurf.Cache

> If I enable JavaScript, the only difference in page layout is that I
> get a raw  to the Sign Up page rendered at the top of the
> screen, instead of the actual link.

Here, json/jsoff lead to identical page layouts, with the actual link.

Tony







Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-14 Thread Peter Slegg
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:00:22 , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:33:04 GMT
From: Tony Moore 
Subject: Re: Fanfiction.net login
To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

>I'm beginning to wonder if we're being served the same code. The screen
>grab which I posted before, showed only the lower end of a long page. I
>see, from your screen grab, that the blue header is immediately above
>the log-in section, whereas on mine there are many lines, of what I took
>to be incorrectly displayed js menus, between the blue header and the
>log-in section.
>
>https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.zip contains a full-save of
>the page, and a draw-file showing the entire display.
>
>Tony
>


With the Atari (non-JS) build No. 1447 I am seeing more or less the same
login display but without the headphone icon.

I am also seeing the long list of "menu" items down the middle of the page.

Regards,

Peter






Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-14 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 14 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
  Tony Moore  wrote:

> On 14 Nov 2013, David Pitt  wrote:
> > In message 
> >   Tony Moore  wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > > For you, #1447 doesn't show the captcha, but for me it does (see
> > > link). I wonder what could explain the difference. Here #1447 runs
> > > on RO 5.20 / RPCEmu 0.8.11 / Win7. Your headers suggest that you are
> > > using a Mac.
> >
> > I have tried on this Raspberry Pi OS5.21, my Iyonix with both OS5.20 &
> > 5.21 and even VRPC OS4.39, that captcha remains elusive.
> >
> > This is what I see :-
> >
> >   http://www.pittdj.co.uk/temp/login.jpg

Yes, that's the one I get.

> >
> > The alignment of the input boxes is different.
> >
> > How very odd!
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if we're being served the same code. The screen
> grab which I posted before, showed only the lower end of a long page. I
> see, from your screen grab, that the blue header is immediately above
> the log-in section, whereas on mine there are many lines, of what I took
> to be incorrectly displayed js menus, between the blue header and the
> log-in section.

It does look as though they are the JavaScript menus corresponding to
the arrows at the top of the screen on 'our' version.

>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.zip contains a full-save of
> the page, and a draw-file showing the entire display.
>
If I doubleclick on your full-save, I see the same as David's screenshot
above

Curiouser and curiouser!

If I enable JavaScript, the only difference in page layout is that I get
a raw  to the Sign Up page rendered at the top of the screen,
instead of the actual link.

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

He who always ploughs a straight furrow is in a rut.



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-14 Thread Tony Moore
On 14 Nov 2013, David Pitt  wrote:
> In message 
>   Tony Moore  wrote:

[snip]

> > For you, #1447 doesn't show the captcha, but for me it does (see
> > link). I wonder what could explain the difference. Here #1447 runs
> > on RO 5.20 / RPCEmu 0.8.11 / Win7. Your headers suggest that you are
> > using a Mac.
>
> I have tried on this Raspberry Pi OS5.21, my Iyonix with both OS5.20 &
> 5.21 and even VRPC OS4.39, that captcha remains elusive.
>
> This is what I see :-
>
>   http://www.pittdj.co.uk/temp/login.jpg
>
> The alignment of the input boxes is different.
>
> How very odd!

I'm beginning to wonder if we're being served the same code. The screen
grab which I posted before, showed only the lower end of a long page. I
see, from your screen grab, that the blue header is immediately above
the log-in section, whereas on mine there are many lines, of what I took
to be incorrectly displayed js menus, between the blue header and the
log-in section.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.zip contains a full-save of
the page, and a draw-file showing the entire display.

Tony






Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-14 Thread David Pitt
In message 
  Tony Moore  wrote:

> On 13 Nov 2013, David Pitt  wrote:
>> Tony Moore, on 13 Nov, wrote:
>>> On 12 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley 
>>> wrote:
 On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall, Tony Moore  wrote:

> [snip]

> The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1447, js
> disabled.

 I've just downloaded NS 1447 but am not seeing any captcha at all
 on that page.   It reads "FanFiction Login with..." followed by
 various social media icons, then "or" followed by three blank text
 entry icons - which, from experiment, are email-address, password
 and required captcha text - followed by a "login" button.
>>>
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.jpg shows what I see
>>> here.
>>
>> NetSurfs 1.0 and 2.1 rendered the captcha here, #1447 doesn't.

> For you, #1447 doesn't show the captcha, but for me it does (see link).
> I wonder what could explain the difference. Here #1447 runs on RO 5.20 /
> RPCEmu 0.8.11 / Win7. Your headers suggest that you are using a Mac.

I have tried on this Raspberry Pi OS5.21, my Iyonix with both OS5.20 & 
5.21 and even VRPC OS4.39, that captcha remains elusive.

This is what I see :-

  http://www.pittdj.co.uk/temp/login.jpg

The alignment of the input boxes is different.

How very odd!

-- 
David Pitt



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-13 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 13 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
  David Pitt  wrote:

> Tony Moore, on 13 Nov, wrote:
>
> > On 12 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> > > On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall, Tony Moore  wrote:

[snip]



> > > > The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1447, js
> > > > disabled.
> > >
> > > I've just downloaded NS 1447 but am not seeing any captcha at all on
> > > that page.   It reads "FanFiction Login with..." followed by various
> > > social media icons, then "or" followed by three blank text entry icons -
> > > which, from experiment, are email-address, password and required captcha
> > > text - followed by a "login" button.
> >
> > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.jpg shows what I see here.

Interesting - we've clearly got quite different configurations
somewhere!

This is what I'm seeing:
http://www.cs99cjb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/screen.jpg

So the login button is rendered totally differently, the text input
boxes are aligned with the width of the graphic strip up top, and the
captcha and audio link are hidden(?) by the bottom writable icon. Also,
I'm getting a neat little box drawn around the outside of the whole
caboodle, and I'm seeing sans-serif fonts where you've got serif.

>
> NetSurfs 1.0 and 2.1 rendered the captcha here, #1447 doesn't.

It does sound as if it may be a browser rendering issue rather than a
JavaScript one.   (Although I dare say the page is doing something
hideously complicated in the name of 'compatibility', which according to
the site's blog is the rationale behind the latest changes:
http://blog.fictionpress.com/2013/11/11/crossover-search-option/ )

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

 If you're feeling good, don't worry.  You'll get over it.



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-13 Thread Tony Moore
On 13 Nov 2013, David Pitt  wrote:
> Tony Moore, on 13 Nov, wrote:
> > On 12 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley 
> > wrote:
> > > On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall, Tony Moore  wrote:

[snip]

> > > > The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1447, js
> > > > disabled.
> > >
> > > I've just downloaded NS 1447 but am not seeing any captcha at all
> > > on that page.   It reads "FanFiction Login with..." followed by
> > > various social media icons, then "or" followed by three blank text
> > > entry icons - which, from experiment, are email-address, password
> > > and required captcha text - followed by a "login" button.
> >
> > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.jpg shows what I see
> > here.
>
> NetSurfs 1.0 and 2.1 rendered the captcha here, #1447 doesn't.

For you, #1447 doesn't show the captcha, but for me it does (see link).
I wonder what could explain the difference. Here #1447 runs on RO 5.20 /
RPCEmu 0.8.11 / Win7. Your headers suggest that you are using a Mac.

Tony






Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-13 Thread David Pitt
Tony Moore, on 13 Nov, wrote:

> On 12 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> > On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall, Tony Moore  wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Harriet didn't say which version of NS she was using, and I assumed
> > > that she was talking about a change at
> > > https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php
> >
> > I was, yes.
> >
> > > 'As of today' there is no build of NS yet, but NetSurf-gcc-json-1447,
> > > 11-Nov-2013 14:36 also displays the captcha. For the avoidance of
> > > doubt:
> > >
> > > The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1447, js
> > > disabled.
> >
> > I've just downloaded NS 1447 but am not seeing any captcha at all on
> > that page.   It reads "FanFiction Login with..." followed by various
> > social media icons, then "or" followed by three blank text entry icons -
> > which, from experiment, are email-address, password and required captcha
> > text - followed by a "login" button.
> 
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.jpg shows what I see here.

NetSurfs 1.0 and 2.1 rendered the captcha here, #1447 doesn't.


-- 
David Pitt



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-13 Thread Tony Moore
On 12 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall, Tony Moore  wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Harriet didn't say which version of NS she was using, and I assumed
> > that she was talking about a change at
> > https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php
>
> I was, yes.
>
> > 'As of today' there is no build of NS yet, but
> > NetSurf-gcc-json-1447, 11-Nov-2013 14:36 also displays the captcha.
> > For the avoidance of doubt:
> >
> > The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1447, js
> > disabled.
>
> I've just downloaded NS 1447 but am not seeing any captcha at all on
> that page.   It reads "FanFiction Login with..." followed by various
> social media icons, then "or" followed by three blank text entry icons
> - which, from experiment, are email-address, password and required
> captcha text - followed by a "login" button.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/fanfiction.jpg shows what I see here.

Tony






Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-12 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
  Harriet Bazley  wrote:

> On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
>   David Pitt  wrote:
>
> > Harriet Bazley, on 12 Nov, wrote:
> >
> > > As of today the 'captcha' on the fanfiction.net log-in page is no longer
> > > displaying - the only way I have found to log in now is to view the page
> > > source and double-click on the hidden link to the audio file alternative.
> > > https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php
> >
> >
> > Does this help, it does display in NetSurf #1447,
> >
> > https://m.fanfiction.net/m/login.php
> >
> Ooh, that could be handy - I've never managed to find a log-in for the
> mobile site.
>
Second edit - aha, now that I've managed to log out of the other version
of the site, it *does* show a captcha on the mobile log-in page!   :-D

I'd better bookmark that, at least for the moment...

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

It is better to have loved and lost than just to have lost.



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-12 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
  Tony Moore  wrote:

[snip]

> Harriet didn't say which version of NS she was using, and I assumed
> that she was talking about a change at
> https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php

I was, yes.

>
> 'As of today' there is no build of NS yet, but NetSurf-gcc-json-1447,
> 11-Nov-2013 14:36 also displays the captcha. For the avoidance of doubt:
>
> The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1447, js disabled.
>
I've just downloaded NS 1447 but am not seeing any captcha at all on
that page.   It reads "FanFiction Login with..." followed by various
social media icons, then "or" followed by three blank text entry icons -
which, from experiment, are email-address, password and required captcha
text - followed by a "login" button.

Judging by the old version of the page, there ought to be a visible
'audio alternative' link somewhere plus, obviously, a captcha.

RO 5.19, NS 1447, js disabled - though enabling it makes no difference,
other than to cause the page to take longer to render.

Whereabouts on the page are you seeing the captcha?   Sounds as if it
may be some kind of layout issue after all... the audio link at any rate
is present in the HTML source.

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-12 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 12 Nov 2013 as I do recall,
  David Pitt  wrote:

> Harriet Bazley, on 12 Nov, wrote:
>
> > As of today the 'captcha' on the fanfiction.net log-in page is no longer
> > displaying - the only way I have found to log in now is to view the page
> > source and double-click on the hidden link to the audio file alternative.
> > https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php
>
>
> Does this help, it does display in NetSurf #1447,
>
> https://m.fanfiction.net/m/login.php
>
Ooh, that could be handy - I've never managed to find a log-in for the
mobile site.

Edit: well, it allows you to select the different 'tabs' via a standard
pop-up menu rather than JS-driven page generation, but sadly the actual
activation button ('Go') still shows the 'button cannot be activated'
warning that indicates Javascript to be run when you click on it :-(

So it looks as if I'm still using bookmarks to access the relevant
URLs...


-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Hypocrisy is underrated.



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-12 Thread David Pitt
Harriet Bazley, on 12 Nov, wrote:

> As of today the 'captcha' on the fanfiction.net log-in page is no longer
> displaying - the only way I have found to log in now is to view the page
> source and double-click on the hidden link to the audio file alternative.
> https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php


Does this help, it does display in NetSurf #1447,

https://m.fanfiction.net/m/login.php




-- 
David Pitt



Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-12 Thread Tony Moore
On 12 Nov 2013, John Williams  wrote:
> In article ,
>Tony Moore  wrote:
> > On 12 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley 
> > wrote:
>
> > > As of today the 'captcha' on the fanfiction.net log-in page is no
> > > longer displaying ...
>
> [Snip]
>
> > The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1417, js
> > disabled.
>
> But that's from at least last month, and Harriet did say 'As of
> today'.

Harriet didn't say which version of NS she was using, and I assumed that
she was talking about a change at https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php

'As of today' there is no build of NS yet, but NetSurf-gcc-json-1447,
11-Nov-2013 14:36 also displays the captcha. For the avoidance of doubt:

The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1447, js disabled.

Tony






Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-12 Thread John Williams
In article ,
   Tony Moore  wrote:
> On 12 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley  wrote:

> > As of today the 'captcha' on the fanfiction.net log-in page is no
> > longer displaying ...

[Snip]

> The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1417, js disabled.

But that's from at least last month, and Harriet did say 'As of today'.

John




Re: Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-12 Thread Tony Moore
On 12 Nov 2013, Harriet Bazley  wrote:

> As of today the 'captcha' on the fanfiction.net log-in page is no
> longer displaying - the only way I have found to log in now is to view
> the page source and double-click on the hidden link to the audio file
> alternative. https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php

The text captcha displays correctly here: RO 5.20, NS 1417, js disabled.

Tony







Fanfiction.net login

2013-11-11 Thread Harriet Bazley
As of today the 'captcha' on the fanfiction.net log-in page is no longer
displaying - the only way I have found to log in now is to view the
page source and double-click on the hidden link to the audio file
alternative. https://www.fanfiction.net/login.php

Is this a layout issue or have they changed the log-in to be
JS-dependent?   (I can't make it out from the page source.)

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

A closed mouth gathers no foot.