Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-25 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 03:27:59PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote:
> Sure makes one wish for that "Javasccript on/off" button on the Netsurf 
> button bar that we've oft wished for! 

Please remember that there is no RISC OS front end maintainer for
NetSurf anymore - nobody is working on the RISC OS front end beyond
making it build with core changes.  If anyone wants to volunteer for
this please step forward!  Some people have expressed interest in the
past but have either vanished or discovered they did not have the spare
time they thought.

B.



Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-24 Thread Tim Hill
In article <57f8148b3bd...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave 
wrote:
> In article <5e2d0df857@6.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel
>  wrote: [Snippy]

> > Have never found a way of programming Keystroke to do this.  If
> > anyone has succeeded, please export the relevant Keystroke Selection
> > file & share it.

> Must confess I've tried with Keystroke a lot of times but never
> succeeded.

The only way to keep the JS setting on screen as a button is to 
1. open choices
2. open content
3. minimise/put configuration on the iconbar
4. toggle JavaScript 
5. click Set with Adjust
6. goto 4

-- 

Tim Hill
Webmaster, www.timil.com

websites : php : RISC OS



Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-23 Thread Brian Howlett
On 23 Sep, Brian Howlett wrote:

> Titanium here, JS enabled - works but vv slow with Netsurf 4851 and the
> previous version I had installed, 4845.

Actually, I may have to take that back - although it certainly worked in 
4845, it eventually had a problem in 4851 - it just prints the JS to the 
NS window, along with the text normally displayed on the page.

Neither version displays the Google Doodle wither, just a pink rectangle 
which is a .png file.
-- 
Brian Howlett

"There ain't half been some clever bastards"
 - the late Ian Dury



Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-23 Thread Brian Howlett
On 23 Sep, Dave wrote:

> I can confirm...
> #4850 with Javascript enabled, google.co.uk doesn't work.

> With Javascript disabled, google does work okay.

> VRPC-DL running RISC OS 6.20

Titanium here, JS enabled - works but vv slow with Netsurf 4851 and the 
previous version I had installed, 4845.
-- 
Brian Howlett
--
This place would be a paradise tomorrow, if every department had a
supervisor with a sub-machine gun.



Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-23 Thread Dave
In article <5e2d0df857@6.abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:
[Snippy]

> Have never found a way of programming Keystroke to do this.  If anyone
> has succeeded, please export the relevant Keystroke Selection file &
> share it.

Must confess I've tried with Keystroke a lot of times but never succeeded.

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid



Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-23 Thread Jim Nagel
Dave Sine Surnomine wrote on 23 Sep:
> #4850 with Javascript enabled, google.co.uk doesn't work.
> With Javascript disabled, google does work okay.

You're right!

Sure makes one wish for that "Javasccript on/off" button on the Netsurf 
button bar that we've oft wished for!  (Ancient Fresco had one, could 
pinch the icon from Fresco.)  So much handier than repetitititive trips to 
iconbar Choices > Content > Disable Javascript > Set.

Have never found a way of programming Keystroke to do this.  If anyone has 
succeeded, please export the relevant Keystroke Selection file & share it.

Or a "switch" that could be added to an URL file to set Javascript off, 
when relevant to that particular URL, as in this case.


And thanks for looking into the problem, Daniel.

-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk





Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-23 Thread Dave
In article ,
   David Pitt  wrote:
> In message <20190923044637.GK1816@somnambulist.local>
>   Daniel Silverstone  wrote:

> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 01:27:52 +0100, Jim Nagel wrote:
> >> For the past few days, telling Netsurf to go to http://google.co.uk
> >> results in an endless loop and no joy.  What's this all about?
> >> 
> >> The Netsurf URL bar changes from what I typed to this:
> >>  http://www.google.co.uk/#spf=1569197185001
> >> The 13-digit number keeps changing, and the hourglass keeps running.
> >> With or without Javascript enabled.

> > Without JS enabled I'm not sure.

> [snip]

> #4850 is OK here with Javascript disabled as checked on a Titanium,  
> Raspberry Pi Mk1, and RPCEmu.

> The recent 3.9 release is OK with Javascript enabled.

I can confirm...
#4850 with Javascript enabled, google.co.uk doesn't work.

With Javascript disabled, google does work okay.

VRPC-DL running RISC OS 6.20

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid



Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-22 Thread David Pitt
In message <20190923044637.GK1816@somnambulist.local>
  Daniel Silverstone  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 01:27:52 +0100, Jim Nagel wrote:
>> For the past few days, telling Netsurf to go to http://google.co.uk
>> results in an endless loop and no joy.  What's this all about?
>> 
>> The Netsurf URL bar changes from what I typed to this:
>>  http://www.google.co.uk/#spf=1569197185001
>> The 13-digit number keeps changing, and the hourglass keeps running.
>> With or without Javascript enabled.

> Without JS enabled I'm not sure.

[snip]

#4850 is OK here with Javascript disabled as checked on a Titanium,  
Raspberry Pi Mk1, and RPCEmu.

The recent 3.9 release is OK with Javascript enabled.
-- 
David Pitt
Titanium



Re: Google and #spf

2019-09-22 Thread Daniel Silverstone
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 01:27:52 +0100, Jim Nagel wrote:
> For the past few days, telling Netsurf to go to http://google.co.uk 
> results in an endless loop and no joy.  What's this all about?
> 
> The Netsurf URL bar changes from what I typed to this:
>  http://www.google.co.uk/#spf=1569197185001
> The 13-digit number keeps changing, and the hourglass keeps running.
> With or without Javascript enabled.

Without JS enabled I'm not sure.  With JS enabled it's a performance issue.
I cannot replicate it on my laptop because it's so much faster than any RISC OS
system, but I believe it'll be due to some JS trying to work stuff out and
failing because it's too slow.  I will attempt to root out the problem
but it's quite possible I won't be able to for a week or more.  We're aware
of it as https://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2702

D.

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Google and #spf

2019-09-22 Thread Jim Nagel
For the past few days, telling Netsurf to go to http://google.co.uk 
results in an endless loop and no joy.  What's this all about?

The Netsurf URL bar changes from what I typed to this:
 http://www.google.co.uk/#spf=1569197185001
The 13-digit number keeps changing, and the hourglass keeps running.
With or without Javascript enabled.

Was using Netsurf #4845 when this phenomenon began.  Downloaded #4850 just 
now, but still no joy.

https://duckduckgo.com/html/search continues to work with no prob.

So what is Google playing at?
Is a fix likely for Netsurf?


-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk