Re: Interactive help

2011-03-03 Thread Chris Newman
In article mpro.lhgcnk00g5x2o01l4.li...@stevefryatt.org.uk,
   Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
 On 2 Mar, Richard Porter wrote in message
 5a1891ad51.r...@user.minijem.plus.com:

  On 1 Mar 2011 Chris Newman  wrote:
  
   In the Netsurf help documentation it says thus.
  
   To use interactive help, suitable software must be running. The program
   'Help' is shipped with all RISC OS computers and it can be run from
   NetSurf's Help  Interactive helpmenu item.
  
  !Help is run from the Apps window, not from NetSurf.

 From looking at the code, I think that NetSurf will try and launch any 
  known  Interactive Help client when that menu item is selected (assuming  
   that one  it recognises isn't already running).

Yes. That happens here. It recognises !Bubble help by Miles Sabin
(distributed by David Pilling), !Float by someone called Steve Fryatt !!! as
well as the Acorn !Help.

However, I'm constantly getting the same effect on my RiscPC that Netsurf
won't recognise them from the iconbar. I can only use after accessing them
through the Netsurf menu. I tried removing everything I could from the icon
bar to see if anything was clashing but to no avail. Short of de-populating
my Run  Boot lists in Configuration ( a somewhat time consuming task), I
may never know the cause. I'll live with it.

I've discovered all the Help applications work as expected on my PC running
Virtual Acorn  that has many of the same apps loaded at startup.

I must be in a Bermuda Triangle or on a Ley Line or something.

Just have to leave it unexplained. Not a biggy. Thanks for your replies.

If anyone replicates the problem or finds the answer at some future point I'd
be interested to know. 

Regards to all a a big thanks to all the developers who are working so hard.

-- 
Chris



Re: Interactive help

2011-03-02 Thread Richard Porter
On 1 Mar 2011 Chris Newman  wrote:

 In the Netsurf help documentation it says thus.


 Instant on-line help is available throughout the software, in the form of
 interactive help. This offers quick help information, in bullet point format,
 about the item under the pointer.

 To use interactive help, suitable software must be running. The program
 'Help' is shipped with all RISC OS computers and it can be run from NetSurf's
 Help  Interactive helpmenu item.

!Help is run from the Apps window, not from NetSurf.


-- 
Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/
  mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com
I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.



Re: Interactive help

2011-03-02 Thread Chris Newman
In article mpro.lhekmv00e8wi80aii.li...@stevefryatt.org.uk,
   Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
 On 1 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
 51ad607c3ecvj...@waitrose.com:

  To use interactive help, suitable software must be running. The program
  'Help' is shipped with all RISC OS computers and it can be run from
  NetSurf's Help  Interactive helpmenu item.
  
  However, I can't get it to work here.
  Risc PC / Adjust 4.39/ test build r11881 (01 Mar 2011)

 So, what /does/ it do?  What exactly doesn't work?

Sorry. I must have been imprecise.
I loaded !Help from the Apps folder so that it is on the icon bar  working
correctly on my desktop. However, hovering over the Netsurf page produced no
helpful little bubbles.
Yet today, I tried loading !Help from the Netsurf page help menu instead  it
worked perfectly. I'm thinking it must be something blocking it on my
machine. I will investigate further  report back. 
Sorry to have taken your time, folks.

  I don't usually need it but after the recent discussion about favicons I
  thought I'd try  find them - whatever they are!

 They have been disabled in the core now, due to an unrelated issue, so
 there's not much to find.  See the Favicons thread.

Yep. Knew that. I'd been searching before that was posted.

-- 
Chris



Re: Interactive help

2011-03-01 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 1 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
51ad607c3ecvj...@waitrose.com:

 To use interactive help, suitable software must be running. The program
 'Help' is shipped with all RISC OS computers and it can be run from
 NetSurf's Help  Interactive helpmenu item.
 
 However, I can't get it to work here.
 Risc PC / Adjust 4.39/ test build r11881 (01 Mar 2011)

So, what /does/ it do?  What exactly doesn't work?

 I don't usually need it but after the recent discussion about favicons I
 thought I'd try  find them - whatever they are!

They have been disabled in the core now, due to an unrelated issue, so
there's not much to find.  See the Favicons thread.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn  RISC OS Show
  Saturday 16 April 2011
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/   http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/