Re: iGoogle not displaying?
In article 51b96f647crh.li...@phone.coop, Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@phone.coop wrote: In article mpro.lilry03ap0068.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: make sure you have the latest version of your browser indeed!! The latest mainstream browsers are Safari 5, Firefox 4 and IE9. This is not really on topic, and I do not use Safari, and only very rarely IE. My version of Firefox is 3.6.16, to which it was updated by the autoupdater two nights ago, so I would have thought it perfectly correct to say that Firefox 3.x is the latest version. I have heard of rumours of Ver 4 - but that, presumably, is a development version only and not something that should be quoted to the general user as 'the latest', surely? (I also one heard a reference to a horrible new user interface...). Rumours? of a version 4, keep up that man at the back, Beta 4 versions have been out and about for ages... Well I've had them on my machines for what seems like ages. ;-) Version 4 RC was released last weekend(ish), followed by it being uprated to the V4 official release at the beginning of the week. Yes it is a bit different in the default state, but it can easily be reconfigured back to a 3.nn like appearance. I dislike the Tabs on top, so I have them switched back in the correct place (As they were before). Menu bar is still available if you should want it, and so on. There are a few other minor UI changes... Bottom line is it's still Firefox, albeit a bit difference in appearance, but then Firefox 3 is somewhat different in appearance to early FireFox version. I still have both 3.6.16 and 4.0 installed because some addons have not yet been updated for Ff 4. And I often use them both at the same time. And what about Opera? She is very good at interviews... ;-) What does amaze me, looking at my web servers logs, is the number of people still using IE5 and IE6 and Safari 3 + 4, as well as all the countless versions of Firefox 3.x.yy As I understand it, this is mostly due to the Dumbass users, computer arrives with IE whatever installed, and that's how it stays, mostly as time passes, they don't know or care that newer versions are available, or that Firefox, Opera, Shiny thing... exist. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
In article 51b97dea78d...@triffid.co.uk, Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: As I understand it, this is mostly due to the Dumbass users, computer arrives with IE whatever installed, and that's how it stays, mostly as time passes, they don't know or care that newer versions are available, or that Firefox, Opera, Shiny thing... exist. But I mentioned older versions of Firefox too. That, at least, comes with autoupdates by default, so if they do not update, they either ignore the updates, or have actively disabled them. -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__bluecustomerId=416873103 (NB This link needs Firefox to work)
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
In article 51b97dea78d...@triffid.co.uk, Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: Rumours? of a version 4, keep up that man at the back, Beta 4 versions have been out and about for ages... Well I've had them on my machines for what seems like ages. ;-) Version 4 RC was released last weekend(ish), followed by it being uprated to the V4 official release at the beginning of the week. So why did my version update to a later version of FF3.6 days after Ver. 4 release? Yes, if I check manually today, it does offer me FF4 -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__bluecustomerId=416873103 (NB This link needs Firefox to work)
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
In article mpro.lilyjl0012a6p03m0.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: You could check your facts, Firefox 4 was released on the 22nd of this month. As I said, FF advised of the upgrade to reach 3.6.16 after that date - from which it was reasonable to deduce that Mozilla did not think that Ver 4 was ready yet. I was ignoring beta versions. Its tabs on top interface is the current fashion. Denigrating something as yet unseen I think I am entitled to repeat a comment I have seen elsewhere, unless I have reason to mistrust it. True, I cannot remember who made it, but it was not someone whose opinions I normally mistrust, and the comment about the UI was far stronger than mine. -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__bluecustomerId=416873103 (NB This link needs Firefox to work)
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
Quoting Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk: [Firefox] Version 4 RC was released last weekend(ish), followed by it being uprated to the V4 official release at the beginning of the week. I'm using the official V4 release to post this message. Dave
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@phone.coop wrote: In article mpro.lilyjl0012a6p03m0.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: You could check your facts, Firefox 4 was released on the 22nd of this month. As I said, FF advised of the upgrade to reach 3.6.16 after that date - from which it was reasonable to deduce that Mozilla did not think that Ver 4 was ready yet. I am sure we have been here before, Firefox 4 is a new version not an update and so is not installed on auto-pilot. How about this for coincidence, as I write Firefox 3.6.16 is downloading on a Windows 7 machine. Having now upgraded itself the the page presented has this, You're now running Firefox 3.6.16. For security reasons, we recommend downloading the latest and greatest version, which is Firefox 4. Here is a bit of OT fun, http://glow.mozilla.org/ -- David Pitt
iGoogle not displaying?
Has anybody else found that the iGoogle page no longer displays on Netsurf? Certainly it was alright until two days ago but now I just get the background tint. It never displayed fully but always enough to get at the essential parts to use (it used javascript heavily). It was just useful that Google knew what you had been looking at if I subsequently searched on the PC - the functionality is there in the basic page of course. I'm not using the latest NS version but I'm pretty sure this problem must be the result of a change in the page that Google is sending. Chris -- Chris Shepheard writing as himself chris.shephe...@chrispics.co.uk from far west Surreywww.chrispics.co.uk
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
On 24 Mar, Chris Shepheard wrote: Has anybody else found that the iGoogle page no longer displays on Netsurf? Certainly it was alright until two days ago but now I just get the background tint. It never displayed fully but always enough to get at the essential parts to use (it used javascript heavily). It was just useful that Google knew what you had been looking at if I subsequently searched on the PC - the functionality is there in the basic page of course. I'm not using the latest NS version but I'm pretty sure this problem must be the result of a change in the page that Google is sending. On the latest version (r12128) it just displays the page's background colour as well. View Source shows that pretty much the whole page is Javascript, so it's no wonder NetSurf fails to render it. -- Brian Howlett -- There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra today than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them...
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
In article d170f6b851.br...@bhowlett.plus.net, Brian Howlett brian.gro...@brianhowlett.me.uk wrote: On 24 Mar, Chris Shepheard wrote: Has anybody else found that the iGoogle page no longer displays on Netsurf? [Snip] I'm pretty sure this problem must be the result of a change in the page that Google is sending. Indeed. On the latest version (r12128) it just displays the page's background colour as well. View Source shows that pretty much the whole page is Javascript, so it's no wonder NetSurf fails to render it. There is a noscript section which should display: it tells you to enable javascript! -- Tim Hill .. www.timil.com
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
In message 51b8fe8642...@timil.com Tim Hill t...@timil.com wrote: There is a noscript section which should display: it tells you to enable javascript! Very helpful! Especially as that does not display either. I used to get the top of the page, complete with personalised background image and search entry box, with that warning just beneath it. Chris -- Chris Shepheard writing as himself chris.shephe...@chrispics.co.uk from far west Surreywww.chrispics.co.uk