Re: version 1773
So I deleted Choices:WWW.NetSurf quit and re-ran NetSurf and the problem went away. By Jove, it works for me too. Actually I did not delete all of Choices:WWW.NetSurf . Instead I created Choices:WWW.NetSurf.Cache by hand and that seemed to do the trick. Maybe there is a buglet in utils/filename.c filename_create_directory 524: not overriding access permissions? -- Gavin Wraith
Re: Version 1773
In article 53f177d568ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: I may know something later on today. OK. I now have the Iyonix running a relatively clean boot from 30th Mar, and RISC OS v. 5.21 30th Mar. Netsurf #1772 is now running fine (that's the latest I have on the Iyo at the moment). Will download and upgrade to #1774 (or later if available), and check that is ok as well. A lot more stuff still to get back in to !Boot, so keeping fingers crossed. Whether I will ever find out what in !Boot was causing the problem I doubt. Anyway, thanks for the help, chaps, especially Ron for showing I wasn't totally mad! -- Chris Johnson
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Now that is interesting - just tried to run !Packman on the Iyonix and got the exact same crash and stackdump. Looks like it might be something to do with SharedULib, although my version is 1.12 (5 Feb 2011). I cannot think what else NetSurf and Packman might have in common. -- Chris Johnson
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In article 53f1281291ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: Now that is interesting - just tried to run !Packman on the Iyonix and got the exact same crash and stackdump. Looks like it might be something to do with SharedULib, although my version is 1.12 (5 Feb 2011). I cannot think what else NetSurf and Packman might have in common. Chris, did you get my email about how I have been upgrading my !Boot? BTW I am running SharedULib 2.13 here but It works with v2.12.
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In article 20140331193145.gh10...@platypus.pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: The computer it's running on :) If you have more than one memory stick, try using only one at a time to see if one of them is faulty. I also seem to remember that the PSUs in Iyonixes are famously unreliable. Neither of those remarks are in the least bit helpful. -- Chris Johnson
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In article 53f12d3134ron.bris...@blueyonder.co.uk, Ron Briscoe ron.bris...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: BTW I am running SharedULib 2.13 here but It works with v2.12. ^ Should of course be 1.13 and 1.12 Regards Ron.
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In article 20140331211952.gb17...@platypus.pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: The computer it's running on :) If you have more than one memory stick, try using only one at a time to see if one of them is faulty. I also seem to remember that the PSUs in Iyonixes are famously unreliable. Neither of those remarks are in the least bit helpful. Have you tried checking if the RAM is faulty? It's amazing how bizarre the problems that faulty RAM can cause. As for the PSU, it was a serious suggestion: low or faulting voltages can cause any number of bizarre, reproducible, unreproducible, precise, and imprecise problems. So yes, they're things worth checking when you've run out of ideas for other things to check. No I definitely think that is something to do with the ROOL 28th Mar 2014 !Boot. I have just tried my saved Boot of that download and Netsurf crashes, back to my 30th Mar 2014 !Boot and all is well again. I took a picture of the error box ;-). Thus. -- Error 0x8005: Internal error: branch through zero pc: fffc Fatal signal received: EMT trap Stack backtrace: Running thread 0x6153a4 ( 61df7c) pc: 478d281r: 4729b0 sp: 61df80 _write_backtrace() ( 61dfe4) pc: 478e4c1r: 4799ac sp: 61dfe8 _unixlib_raise_signal() ( 61dff4) pc: 4798e01r: 48c9bc sp: 61cf10 UnixLibErrorHandler() (fb4213e2) pc: 421ae92c 1r:bea00 sp: 680010 UnixLib detected recursion of signal SIGSEGV. Exiting. Press Space or click mouse to continue --- Regards Ron.
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In article 53f036505bron.bris...@blueyonder.co.uk, Ron Briscoe ron.bris...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: [Snip] NetSurf version 1766 works with the latest !Boot and soft loaded ROM. Regards Ron. (Running !Boot 014-03-26 and 5.21 ROM 014-03-28 with NetSurf 1774.) NetSurf Version 1774 works with no problems with the latest !Boot (014-03-30) and 5.21 ROM (014-03-30) from ROOL on my Iyo :-)). Regards Ron.
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In message b1218def53.ga...@gavin.wra1th.plus.com Gavin Wraith ga...@wra1th.plus.com wrote: In message 17ab86ef53.pitt...@iyonix.home David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: In message 53ef83643ach...@chris-johnson.org.uk cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: Is anyone using the latest build (1773) on an Iyonix? Here, it crashes on startup with a stack backtrace, no log produced. No such problem here with #1773 on this Iyonix running OS5.21 (28-Mar-14). Nor here. BUT pressing F8 or attempting to select Page-View Source... both cause errors. In fact this has been wrong for quite a while now. Sorry I cannot say at which build this ceased to work properly. No problem with view source for me (Iyonix ARMini, both 5.20). -- Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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In message 67fa98ef53.tig...@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk Nick Roberts tig...@orpheusinternet.co.uk wrote: In message b1218def53.ga...@gavin.wra1th.plus.com Gavin Wraith ga...@wra1th.plus.com wrote: In message 17ab86ef53.pitt...@iyonix.home David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: In message 53ef83643ach...@chris-johnson.org.uk cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: Is anyone using the latest build (1773) on an Iyonix? Here, it crashes on startup with a stack backtrace, no log produced. No such problem here with #1773 on this Iyonix running OS5.21 (28-Mar-14). Nor here. BUT pressing F8 or attempting to select Page-View Source... both cause errors. In fact this has been wrong for quite a while now. Sorry I cannot say at which build this ceased to work properly. No problem with view source for me (Iyonix ARMini, both 5.20). NetSurf #1773 on Raspberry Pi 5.21. Pressing F8 or selecting Page-View Source... works OK on local webpages. Otherwise selecting Page-View Source... yields an error message NetSurf is running out of memory ... and pressing F8 yields An unexpected error occurred: Not found. -- Gavin Wraith
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I am no further forward. Have now fired up the BeagleBoard, and 1773 works fine on that. About the only thing I can try with the Iyo is to install a clean boot from the ROOL site, and try with that. -- Chris Johnson
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In article 53f01144c8ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: I am no further forward. Have now fired up the BeagleBoard, and 1773 works fine on that. About the only thing I can try with the Iyo is to install a clean boot from the ROOL site, and try with that. I have shuffled about various !Boots and soft loads and find that I can use NetSurf version 1773 on my 2014-03-26 !Boot with the 2014-03-28 5.21 soft load. I cannot run NetSurf version 1733 with the 2014-03-28 !Boot with or without the soft load. This same problem seems to affect !PackMan as well and again goes away if running my 2014-03-26 !Boot. So I suspect that it is something that has changed in the latest !Boot. Regards Ron. NetSurf version 1766
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In article 53f031c551ron.bris...@blueyonder.co.uk, Ron Briscoe ron.bris...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I have shuffled about various !Boots and soft loads and find that I can use NetSurf version 1773 on my 2014-03-26 !Boot with the 2014-03-28 5.21 soft load. I cannot run NetSurf version 1733 with the 2014-03-28 !Boot with or without the soft load. This same problem seems to affect !PackMan as well and again goes away if running my 2014-03-26 !Boot. So I suspect that it is something that has changed in the latest !Boot. I get the same behaviour with NetSurf version 1774, so I can only surmise that something in the latest !Boot is making NetSurf throw a wobbly on my Iyo. PackMan seems to be behaving itself now however, so I think that was an aberration. NetSurf version 1766 works with the latest !Boot and soft loaded ROM. Regards Ron. (Running !Boot 014-03-26 and 5.21 ROM 014-03-28 with NetSurf 1774.)
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In message 17ab86ef53.pitt...@iyonix.home David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: In message 53ef83643ach...@chris-johnson.org.uk cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: Is anyone using the latest build (1773) on an Iyonix? Here, it crashes on startup with a stack backtrace, no log produced. No such problem here with #1773 on this Iyonix running OS5.21 (28-Mar-14). Nor here. BUT pressing F8 or attempting to select Page-View Source... both cause errors. In fact this has been wrong for quite a while now. Sorry I cannot say at which build this ceased to work properly. -- Gavin Wraith
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 05:13:59PM +, cj wrote: Ok. I have downloaded some past versions (I was on 1762 before upgrading this morning). 1762 - 1766 work fine. 1767 - 1773 all crash on startup. I wonder what has changed either in the latest 5.21 ROM/!Boot (I upgraded both this morning) or in NetSurf. For reference, here are the changes between #1766 and #1767: http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=6f9a93e33295fc3185ca27f2ce9a4f6fd4f4de69 It mostly appears to be Makefile changes, not code changes. Something bizarre is happening. B.
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In article 17ab86ef53.pitt...@iyonix.home, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: No such problem here with #1773 on this Iyonix running OS5.21 (28-Mar-14). Right - so it is something funny at my end, then. Thanks. -- Chris Johnson
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In article 20140328173258.gx10...@platypus.pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: It mostly appears to be Makefile changes, not code changes. Thanks Rob. As you say nothing codewise. Even the makefile changes are mainly formatting changes. I'll check it out on the BeagleBoard first, then do some reboots on the Iyonix to see if it is a clash with something else that is running. I'll have to note down the old-fashioned way what the stack dump is, although the main part is: Error - branch through zero, pc = fffc and UnixLib detected recursion of signal SIGSERV Unfortunately nothing is being written to the log - log is the previous one at a clean exit. -- Chris Johnson
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On 28 Mar, Rob Kendrick wrote: Something bizarre is happening. It may be RO 5.21 related - I'm on RO 5.20 on my Iyonix and I don't get these issues with #1773. -- Brian Howlett -- Was Karl Marx's grave just another Communist Plot?
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In message 3d5d95ef53.br...@bhowlett.plus.net Brian Howlett brian.gro...@brianhowlett.me.uk wrote: On 28 Mar, Rob Kendrick wrote: Something bizarre is happening. It may be RO 5.21 related - I'm on RO 5.20 on my Iyonix and I don't get these issues with #1773. Just to say that in my case Brian is right. I too am on RO 5.20 on my Iyonix and I don't get these issues with #1773.-- Alan
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Ok. I have downloaded some past versions (I was on 1762 before upgrading this morning). 1762 - 1766 work fine. 1767 - 1773 all crash on startup. I wonder what has changed either in the latest 5.21 ROM/!Boot (I upgraded both this morning) or in NetSurf. -- Chris Johnson
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In article 3d5d95ef53.br...@bhowlett.plus.net, Brian Howlett brian.gro...@brianhowlett.me.uk wrote: On 28 Mar, Rob Kendrick wrote: Something bizarre is happening. It may be RO 5.21 related - I'm on RO 5.20 on my Iyonix and I don't get these issues with #1773. I went back first to an earlier 5.21 and then right back to 5.18. Still the same versions run or crash. The only thing I cannot do is unwind the changes to !Boot, which I update every two or three weeks. -- Chris Johnson
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In message 53ef98714fch...@chris-johnson.org.uk cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: In article 3d5d95ef53.br...@bhowlett.plus.net, Brian Howlett brian.gro...@brianhowlett.me.uk wrote: On 28 Mar, Rob Kendrick wrote: Something bizarre is happening. It may be RO 5.21 related - I'm on RO 5.20 on my Iyonix and I don't get these issues with #1773. I went back first to an earlier 5.21 and then right back to 5.18. Still the same versions run or crash. The only thing I cannot do is unwind the changes to !Boot, which I update every two or three weeks. I can also report that 1773 is fine on my Iyonix, RO 5.20 (10-Jun-13). I don't get any problem with F8, on Slashdot at least. Dave FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I suspect this is unixlib the version in the rool release is different. I had multiple Unix libs in! Boot Removing them and installing the one from ns made everything OK again for me Cheers Malcolm On 28 Mar 2014, Dave Higton d...@davehigton.me.uk wrote: In message 53ef98714fch...@chris-johnson.org.uk cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: In article 3d5d95ef53.br...@bhowlett.plus.net, Brian Howlett brian.gro...@brianhowlett.me.uk wrote: On 28 Mar, Rob Kendrick wrote: Something bizarre is happening. It may be RO 5.21 related - I'm on RO 5.20 on my Iyonix and I don't get these issues with #1773. I went back first to an earlier 5.21 and then right back to 5.18. Still the same versions run or crash. The only thing I cannot do is unwind the changes to !Boot, which I update every two or three weeks. I can also report that 1773 is fine on my Iyonix, RO 5.20 (10-Jun-13). I don't get any problem with F8, on Slashdot at least. Dave FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium - -- Sent with K-@ Mail - the evolution of emailing. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: APG v1.1.1 iQJPBAEBCgA5BQJTNdz5MhxNYWxjb2xtIEh1c3NhaW4tR2FtYmxlcyA8bWFsY29s bUBwYXltZW50bGFicy5jb20+AAoJEJMie8gvUzDPvXkP/isCDo54XxOvMNMMDBAq l3qknQKRa4JF8k9kb/waMVlIogqhJdDG47s0p24rAhtKyNavy9Eqcs58PrthLd7M ErdASgAf5DiWEIOUVtDBHO24Mmdix3Y68z/+nnBQKyo1E0tuHrKWk2mlt9VGiDfk SxOfXy3d++d5+3CGVtR1i/6e57PkchKfcCHzrfAM3/1ITdUPzBUKgIGCsiHuxkH0 jigRpgpBsELQv/PHVdNr12T9yj/LylAWWglD7Xa5OlLV0LcsQ7Ie4hQw4dC1tA/s JFwmHpm93yUFUBdvC2LxUbyuFm6tE/LpZXkfsDagGKqOaTS8WGkxnjKbA6ji7WdD 7/gLC+zbF53ALfNkawHik4BwBBWEJbhR9QkB53zeCaYIXOqN5yG9bKku5aLoNoUi uyJCNRrAnJB+CyPG72jNJNbUtzWU+JMIIOVK/1fogmFl9FsmWr6q4XCtTnYaFdjn uR4IyBRO0vUGFOYPkMXp+o5I+m7GPF25vIMiFIZc1R4n+dLSOfZM/yWWebli4LVy M6gY619xnzCFTrgoId/P9ouOev1UyrNmygKyAdKwfzokeTZBEIhf8AIDnJpY3Tgz Tr+GBfiCGKUFMM8njhfv98RMlFoAlENvTSwg8Ali7VzF6+ei6nu6SaChSw+VaAgV WGQcD6eCEiIwthIjaigbkCsx =Sntz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
