nettime q
i was watching a show on the telly last night about berlusconi - what a horrible little man! i really do understand now why my italian cousins fly into a rage when they see him on the screen - even stranger because i am reading the english translation of q by luther blissett at the moment. i know this is old hat for most euro nettimers, but i am in an antipodean backwater after all. it is truly a blast of a novel, and of such a delightful topic for these troubled times. in any case, this brings my question for the nettime collective consciousness for this week: if in 2004 bush should lose the election, will he engineer an 'emergency' whereby he can hold onto power until that 'emergency' has passed? send me yoru answers and i'll compile up a digest for the list cheers ben = ben moretti http://www.geocities.com/benmoretti http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nettime Fear Incorporated
Hi, On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Randall M. Packer wrote: Fear Incorporated November 24, 2004 How can we win the war on terror? Isn't terror an indelible part of the human condition? Does anyone really think it can be eliminated? The Bush Maybe I shouldnt think about this from Europe, but as I just saw an annouce with a similar headline: The question is stupid, the second and third sentense is even more stupid. Yes, there is terror, it is just a medium of power, nothing more. It is not worse than atomic bombs or tanks, air fighters, smart bombs, whatever. There is only one difference, it is targetting civilians more than military targets. But was the airplane, that flew into the pentagon less terror than the on that flew into the skyscapper in NYC? Well, yes, the less civil casualties, the better the war, but what counts most, in the sense of the question, is what people are fighting for. From here, I think it is unfair to speak only of the medium. It is the message that counts, and the message is more than terror. H. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nettime Re: Governing Hollywood Style
Wag the Turkey Surprise Thanksgiving Dinner at 6 AM? By WAYNE MADSEN ..SNIP... Force One touched down at Baghdad International Airport, under cover of darkness, at 5:20 AM Baghdad time. Bush was on the ground for two and a half I'm confused. http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2003/11/27/20031127_225205_flashbb. htm Shows a different time line, Bush being there at Iraq's [local] dinner time X DRUDGE REPORT X THU NOV 27, 2003 17:00:01 ET X HOW IT ALL WENT DOWN: DETAILED REPORT OF BUSH'S SECRET TRIP **Exclusive** Trip of the President to Baghdad Pool Reporter Mike Allen's [WASH POST] Private Notes Nov. 26 and 27 (Thanksgiving Day), 2003 The President left Waco secretly Wednesday at 8:25 p.m. Eastern (7:25 p.m. Texan) with a small pool, stopped at Andrews to pick up a few staff and a few more poolers, change planes and then head to Baghad. Both flights were what we think of as the normal Air Force One, Boeing 747 with the normal marking. The President landed in darkness at Baghdad International Airport at 9:31 a.m. Washington time (5:32 p.m. local) on Thursday, Nov. 27, Thanksgiving Day. He took off at 12:03 p.m. Eastern time, so was in Baghdad roughly 2.5 hours. XX Does anyone know exactly what time this took place. ? Richard # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
