Re: nettime FW: [IP] Craigslist Planning To Shake Up Journalism

2005-11-27 Thread Tapas Ray
Karen,

Here are some links you may find useful:

http://www.kuro5hin.org/special/voting
http://file.ohmynews.com/publication_file/117/dbook/default1.html
http://english.ohmynews.com/english/eng_section.asp?article_class=8

Tapas


 how much control will readers have in their role as editors and what
 are the risks of news pollution? also, where are the headlines coming
 from and who are the journalists? i'm curious to know how exactly
 we're getting closer to the truth.




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Re: nettime FW: [IP] Craigslist Planning To Shake Up Journalism

2005-11-27 Thread Ronda Hauben

OhmyNews, especially the English version, doesn't work this way.

The editor puts stories where he feels they belong. They do record page views 
and
have a list of the top 10 stories with regard to page views from the previous
week.

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, Tapas Ray wrote:

 Others have already tried this, quite successfully. Kuro5in and Slashdot
 have been doing this sort of thing for some time. Kuro5in has a more
 reader-centred, one may perhaps say democratic approach, and has a more
 general-interest coverage than Slashdot's news for geeks focus. OhmyNews,
 which takes stories from citizen reporters, is a force to reckon with in
 South Korea and is said to have helped decide the outcome of a presidential
 election.

 Tapas

It would seem more important to encourage comments and discussion on the 
articles,
rather than votes for what page something goes on.

It doesn't seem that Craig is asking the online community what is needed for an
online newspaper, but somehow has his model.

It would be better to see some discussion of what is needed.

The value of what has happened in South Korea, where there is lots of online
discussion, is that people would discuss (not vote).

Discussion is dynamic.

It is interesting that Craig's list has benefitted from ads but not provided any
accompanying newspaper.

The effort to create a good online newspaper is something really needed in the 
US
and also the people should be paid something, not just have to volunteer their
work.

OhmyNews is an actual newspaper, has a staff which it employs and pays a salary,
and also welcomes submissions from citizen reporters.

It pays citizen reporters a very minimal amount depending on the nature of the
story - in US either $20, $10 or $2.

The url for my article describing OhmyNews is:

Ronda

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?menu=c10400no=246787rel_no=1

  Newmark said his news project will involve Web technology to let
  readers decide which news stories are the most important. At least one
  Web site is already working this field. Digg.com invites readers to
  submit stories to be posted on its Web site. Once a story receives
  enough (votes) from (the site's visitors) it will be promoted to the
  front page, the site explains.





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nettime Five Theses on Informational - Cognitive Capitalism

2005-11-27 Thread dafermos

Five Theses on Informational - Cognitive Capitalism

George N. Dafermos
dafermos [at] datahost [dot] gr

October 2005.



1

Recession is here, everywhere. Whether recession is artificial and thus 
compatible
with the axiomatic of capitalism (that is, the tendency toward a world market), 
or
forced and thus a threat to capitalism is still debated. From the perspective of
Capital, what is more important is that the historic magnification, which has 
been
defining capitalism since the 15th century, is not likely to maintain its pace 
or
character. There are no more barbarians to civilise, no more virgin lands to
conquer and colonise. The new barbarians are refined, the new virgin lands are 
not
defined by geographical parameters. Primitive accummulation has been completed;
explosion now gives way to implosion. It was reckoned that a myth central to
capitalism came full circle in three generations: I would start from scratch 
with
empty hands and empty pockets, slowly but gradually accummulate rights and 
money,
then build a house, find a wife with whom I would make a family, then have a son
and raise him, and, sooner or later, die. My son would repeat the process once
more, but his son ? my grandson - would inherit more than my son did, say three
times more. In the elapsed space of three generations, total wealth would have
multiplied by nine times. This myth starts to shun all relevance: the historic
magnification of capitalism, based on longestablished materialist notions of
value, is no longer feasible. In all probability, my grandson will not inherit
three houses. And here comes the reversal of perspective of Capital: as the
concept of the Spectale is conceived to its full radicality, as a process of
generalised social abstraction, the commodity-form implodes to encompass and
invest all of shared lived experience. The commodity-form has gone well beyond 
the
romantic stage of fetishism: while there is no doubt that both the use- and
exchangevalue of a product now largely stem from intangible characteristics, 
such
as perceived sex-appeal, coolness, and ephemeral trendiness ? a reality of
contemporary commerce which compels us to rethink value along the lines of what
Jean Baudrillard calls sign value ? commodification does not stop at the 
twilight
of shopfronts and commodity shelves, that is, the sphere of materiality, but it
extends beyond them to encompass all of the immaterial. The leverage and
diffussion of commodification has been so overwhelming that goods long 
considered
public, such as century-old knowledges pertaining to medical treatments and the
cultivation of the land have been appropriated.[1] In the age of universality of
the spectale, the ultimate commodity is the time of our own lives, that is, the
relationships and experiences that give meaning to its space. The spectacle is
the moment when the commodity has attained the total occupation of social
life.[2] In effect, nothing escapes vulgar commodification. Even some of the 
most
subversive and anti-commercial manifestations of shared lived experience have
capitulated. Indicatively, in the space of the last fifteen years, rave has
metamorphosed from an anti-commercial, underground social movement and cultural
phenomenon into a lucrative industry of cool. With the notable exception of
freeraves in England, the commodification of the pulse of rave is ensured by the
increasing centrality of the figure of the Star-DJ (and the ephemeral trendiness
of the Club) to the packaged experience. The associated process of social
formation during a rave is accomplished by reference to the sign value of
fluorescent Adidas trainers and ornament-ised Ecstasy. Rave is now about paying 
to
dance to the beats of a cultureindustry professsional, rather than realising
temporary autonomous zones through an intensive process of cross-fertilisation
between underground sub-cultures based on the free sharing of conscience.[3]
Presently, rave's claim to hack reality has given way to spectacular pomp. Far
from becoming a universal anti-systemic movement, as it once aspired, rave,
blessed by the high priests of the culture industry, became an industry of cool.
Now, more that ever before, the utterance the poverty of everyday life 
attains a
whole new meaning. It no longer refers to the near-complete lack of authentic
excitement and stimulation in shared lived experience, that is, an ontological
condition predicated on esoteric misery and social boredom; now, it comes to
signify the centrality of the commodity-form to the satisfaction and saturation 
of
all of our socio-cultural needs and wants.


2

Would-be information-technology (IT) workers are reckoned to be privileged 
because
it is assumed that IT students are in the rare position of needing none and
nothing, except for plenty of time perhaps, in order to acquire those skills and
competencies that will later guarantee them a job in the epicentre of the most
lucrative labour market. But this is yet another