FT: Google break-up plan emerges from Brussels

2014-11-21 Thread nettime's_roving_reporter
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/617568ea-71a1-11e4-9048-00144feabdc0.html

November 21, 2014 6:23 pm

Google break-up plan emerges from Brussels

 Henry Mance, Alex Barker and Murad Ahmed

The European parliament is poised to call for a break-up of
Google, in one of the most brazen assaults so far on the
technology group's power.

The gambit increases the political pressure on the European
Commission, the EU's executive arm, to take a tougher line on
Google, either in its antitrust investigation into the company or
through the introduction of laws to curb its reach.

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A draft motion seen by the Financial Times says that "unbundling
[of] search engines from other commercial services" should be
considered as a potential solution to Google's dominance. It has
the backing of the parliament's two main political blocs, the
European People's Party and the Socialists.

A vote to effectively single out a big US company for censure is
extremely rare in the European parliament and is in part a
reflection of how Germany's politicians have turned against
Google this year.

German centre-right and centre-left politicians are the dominant
force in the legislature and German corporate champions, from
media groups to telecoms, are among the most vocal of Google's
critics.

Since his nomination to be the EU's digital commissioner,
Germany's G??nther Oettinger has suggested hitting Google with a
levy for displaying copyright-protected material; has raised the
idea of forcing its search results to be neutral; and voiced
concerns about its provision of software for cars.

Google has become a lightning rod for European concerns over
Silicon Valley, with consumers, regulators and politicians
assailing the company over issues ranging from its commercial
dominance to its privacy policy. It has reluctantly accepted the
European Court of Justice's ruling on the right to be forgotten,
which requires it to consider requests not to index certain links
about people's past.

The European parliament has no formal power to split up
companies, but has increasing influence on the commission, which
initiates all EU legislation. The commission has been
investigating concerns over Google's dominance of online search
for five years, with critics arguing that the company's rankings
favour its own services, hitting its rivals' profits.

"Unbundling cannot be excluded," said Andreas Schwab, a German
MEP who is one of the motion's backers.

Margrethe Vestager, the incoming European competition
commissioner, has indicated that she will listen to Google and
various complainants before deciding on how to move forward with
the antitrust inquiry into the company.

Ramon Tremosa, a Spanish MEP who is sponsoring the motion, said
it was necessary to consider unbundling as a long-term solution,
because the commission could not "ask the secret of [Google's]
algorithm".

Google declined to comment. However, executives at the company
are understood to be furious at the political nature of the
motion and only became aware of the document in the past couple
of days, after an MEP contacted Google for advice on its meaning.

One technology industry source with knowledge of the motion also
called it a "politically-motivated campaign to do something that
is a regulatory matter". He added: "These guys are calling for
the break-up of Google. That is not in proportion to the degree
of concern articulated by the commission during its
investigation."

The draft resolution's final text will be agreed early next week,
ahead of a vote, which is expected on Thursday.


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Re: end-to-end encryption for the masses

2014-11-21 Thread Felix Stalder

On 11/20/2014 03:11 AM, nettime's_enigma wrote:
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:12:27 -0500
> From: Dmytri Kleiner 
> Subject: Re:  end-to-end encryption for the masses
> 
> OK, after I agree to run google play store on my phone along with the 
> proprietary whatsapp , I also give my phone number, and the phone number 
> of all my contacts to prismbook, and also let them know exactly who I'm 
> chatting with and exactly when, and in return they'll OTR encrypt my 
> chat messages for me. I see what you did there facebook. Hooray privacy!

Exactly, it seems to highlight that what is really valuable for a
company like Facebook is only the meta data. It's all about network
patterns and their real-time dynamics.

Thus, access to the data, i.e. the content of the messages, is no
longer necessary in their current business model. Having users encrypt
it, it is no loss at all, rather its great advertisement creating an
inadequate sense of privacy.

Felix


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Re: 'fuck europe!' then what?

2014-11-21 Thread JNM

On the other hand Europe is fine. It is pretty true that it makes very
good law for consumers. It is a good idea to have some sort of rules
all over the place. That all consumers can count on.


I completely disagree. Europe make very bad laws for consumers, because
this laws are made by thousand technocrats directed by 20 000 lobbyists
and not by citizens, and because capitalist system is deeply included in
the European constitution.

 Two examples:

-before European laws on free competition, some countries like France
used to have very good public services, in many different sectors of the
society, with workers doing very good work. All has been exploded,
public services has been dismantled, with a massive use of subcontractors 
employing interim workers, who don't care about nothing.  Many services

have disapeared. A huge regression for consumers. This participate to
the feeling of depression wich pushes the voters to the extremes.

-Another example about food: the European organic rules for food 
products, to have the European "organic" label, allows 5% of 
non-organic components in productsyou can easily understand what 
it means for the food industry.


I could describe thousands European laws wich are regressions for 
consumers compared to what was existing before Europe laws. So, I 
correct your sentence:


Europe make very bad laws for consumers, but very good laws for 
transnational companies.


JN


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Re: 'fuck europe!' then what?

2014-11-21 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
Am 20/11/14 12:42, schrieb Alex Foti:

<<
Europe is not a good sell. Not in Western Europe, not in Eastern Europe,
and most particularly on the left, where accusations of eurocentrism and
denunciations of the arbitrary political notion of "Europe" (where does
it end? when did it start?) abound. The position, best argued by
Streeck, that only by returning to the nation-state what's left of the
left can hope to shelter citizens from the inequalities of global
financial capitalism, seems to me nostalgic of the fordist age of
(patriarchal and paternalist) social democracy.
>>


The nation is the place where we give us our own law. That is not
applicable in other countries. On the other hand Europe is fine. It is
pretty true that it makes very good law for consumers. It is a good idea
to have some sort of rules all over the place. That all consumers can
count on.

And what is the EU? A group of nation states with some common rules. Not
all are easy, so what? And I would say that the EU is even not so bad in
the Ukraine crisis if you forget the language and concentrate on what it
is really asking for. We should all come down.


Best, H.


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Re: 'fuck europe!' then what?

2014-11-21 Thread Keith Hart
In 1900 Europe contained 25% of the world's population, in 2100 it is
forecast o be 6%. Europe is the main and permanent loser in this world
crisis. Talk of reversion to the nation-state is just one symptom of that.

http://thememorybank.co.uk/2014/05/06/europe-is-the-main-and-permanent-loser-in-this-world-crisis/

Keith

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Alex Foti  wrote:

> is the european question the analog of the habsburg question or the ottoman
> question in the 19th century? i don't think so, but there's certainly room
> for the belief that the 'sick man of europe' is europe itselft, or rather
> the EU.
 <...>


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