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need an eco-state. I mean a form of social coordination that doesn't precipitate collapse, but protects against, reverses the trends, allows human and ecological healing. Of course you can imagine an eco-state in an authoritarian vein, because that's where China is going. Rana Dasgupta surely sees it differently - I'm looking forward to read that text - but I see China going toward a state that will internalize earth system imperatives, and actually respond to the climate crisis by producing self-driving electric cars, total surveillance and geoengineering. Geoengineering is good - or at least, it's inevitable - but authoritarianism isn't. How should the Western countries and their "integrated peripheries" respond? What can civil-society movements do about it? The answer is, we don't have a clue. Shame on us. Mexico is collapsing, and white people in the US think they can bring back the good old days. As for the carbon tax that someone mentioned, I hear you, but it's too little too late. It might have helped twenty years ago, if it hadn't been just another neoliberal ploy for gaming the system. It can still do some good, in a more serious form, but now we're on a timeline that's going to require central coordination in addition to market coordination. Unless we just want civilizational breakdown in the megafires of the Pyrocene. Which is really coming into its own in Colorado, by the way. I'm afraid it will put a real dent in the tourist industry. Green New Deal or bust. I'm not kidding when I talk about eco-socialism. The question is how to get there. Brian sean Sean Cubitt | He/Him Professor of Screen Studies School of Culture and Communication W104 John Medley Building University of Melbourne Grattan Street Victoria 3010 AUSTRALIA scub...@unimelb.edu.au<mailto:scub...@unimelb.edu.au> New Book: Anecdotal Evidence https://global.oup.com/academic/product/anecdotal-evidence-9780190065720?lang=en&cc=au#<https://global.oup.com/academic/product/anecdotal-evidence-9780190065720?lang=en&cc=au#> Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:58:52 +0100 From: Felix Stalder mailto:fe...@openflows.com>> To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org<mailto:nettime-l@mail.kein.org> Subject: Re: Thoughts on coups Message-ID: <2a74602d-d71a-2175-62ad-29b62760e...@openflows.com<mailto:2a74602d-d71a-2175-62ad-29b62760e...@openflows.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On 24.11.20 04:14, Brian Holmes wrote: > Here's my two cents: Keynes aimed to save capitalism from itself. Double > down on Keynes, unleash vast new creative energies on the basis of fiat > money, and maybe, instead of sapping capital's foundations, we can push it > over the top into ecosocialism. There are probably two distinct political strategies here. And it would be interesting to work out their relation. The first is move capitalism towards a different regime of accumulation, one based less on extractivism and consumerism but rather more on renewable energy and "eco-system services" for repairing some of the damage already done (I know, this term is conventionally used in a different sense). A little bit of this we are already seeing, with the EU's project to become a first climate neutral continent by 2050, China commitment by 2060 and new Biden admin making similar gestures. So far, actual effects, in terms of reducing the output of CO2 and and ending/slowing down the loss of biological diversity, have not been achieved. The big question is: is that too little too late, unable to overcome very real system barriers to substantial change? Or can this be made into the beginning of a self-accelerating shift in the energy regime of global civilization? In the longer run, it's hard to imagine how capitalism can still be capitalism without treating "nature" as an externality. So the question then becomes, what are the condition under which a 'greener capitalism' can be pushed into something else. In a way that is like an update of the old Marxian idea that capitalism will produce productive forces on which communism can be realized. all the best. Felix -- | || http://felix.openflows.com<http://felix.openflows.com> | | Open PGP | http://felix.openflows.com/pgp.txt<http://felix.openflows.com/pgp.txt> | -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_0x0BBB5B950C9FF2AC.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 3192 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20201124/9ee66756/attachment-0001.key<http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20201124/9ee66756/attachment-0001.key>> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature Type: ap
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y and "eco-system services" for repairing some of the > damage already done (I know, this term is conventionally used in a > different sense). A little bit of this we are already seeing, with the > EU's project to become a first climate neutral continent by 2050, China > commitment by 2060 and new Biden admin making similar gestures. So far, > actual effects, in terms of reducing the output of CO2 and and > ending/slowing down the loss of biological diversity, have not been > achieved. The big question is: is that too little too late, unable to > overcome very real system barriers to substantial change? Or can this be > made into the beginning of a self-accelerating shift in the energy > regime of global civilization? > > In the longer run, it's hard to imagine how capitalism can still be > capitalism without treating "nature" as an externality. So the question > then becomes, what are the condition under which a 'greener capitalism' > can be pushed into something else. In a way that is like an update of > the old Marxian idea that capitalism will produce productive forces on > which communism can be realized. > > > all the best. Felix > > > -- > | || > https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/b7quCvl0E5u7vp9LAIXkohl?domain=felix.openflows.com > <http://felix.openflows.com> | > | Open PGP | > https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/1COxCwVLG5hGoJjVys9yMFM?domain=felix.openflows.com > <http://felix.openflows.com/pgp.txt> | > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: OpenPGP_0x0BBB5B950C9FF2AC.asc > Type: application/pgp-keys > Size: 3192 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20201124/9ee66756/attachment-0001.key > > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: OpenPGP_signature > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 495 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: < > http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20201124/9ee66756/attachment-0001.pgp > > > > -- > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: > https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/bMvNCr8Dz5s8xPqn2T7Q76k?domain=mx.kein.org > <http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l> > > End of nettime-l Digest, Vol 158, Issue 30 > ** > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
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e old Marxian idea that capitalism will produce productive forces on which communism can be realized. all the best. Felix -- | || http://felix.openflows.com | | Open PGP | http://felix.openflows.com/pgp.txt | -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_0x0BBB5B950C9FF2AC.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 3192 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20201124/9ee66756/attachment-0001.key> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 495 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20201124/9ee66756/attachment-0001.pgp> -- # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l End of nettime-l Digest, Vol 158, Issue 30 ** # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
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> --- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:58:52 +0100 > From: Felix Stalder > To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org > Subject: Re: Thoughts on coups > Message-ID: <2a74602d-d71a-2175-62ad-29b62760e...@openflows.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 24.11.20 04:14, Brian Holmes wrote: >> Here's my two cents: Keynes aimed to save capitalism from itself. Double >> down on Keynes, unleash vast new creative energies on the basis of fiat >> money, and maybe, instead of sapping capital's foundations, we can push it >> over the top into ecosocialism. > > > In the longer run, it's hard to imagine how capitalism can still be > capitalism without treating "nature" as an externality. Not so hard. Isn’t a carbon tax an attempt to address that? Further, here in Colorado, USA, institutional machinery has turned relatively quickly - extractive industries used to drive the state economy, but now outdoor recreation more important, and legislature recently amended role of state Oil and Gas Commission from “promote” oil and gas to prioritizing “health and public safety”, which will reduce fracking here. This is partly one economic sector’s ascendancy driving regulatory change at the expense of another’s. Also, we are aware here that wind energy is significantly replacing coal generation in the state, coal plants being retired even before their planned life span. Obama’s “All of the Above” energy strategy looks canny in retrospect; on a level playing field, fossil fuels are now losing. Reversing Trump tariff’s on cheap Chinese solar panels will help as well. > So the question > then becomes, what are the condition under which a 'greener capitalism' > can be pushed into something else. In a way that is like an update of > the old Marxian idea that capitalism will produce productive forces on > which communism can be realized. > > > all the best. Felix > > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Call: 'Critical Meme Research'
Hello nettimers, Some of you on this list might be interested in contributing to this forthcoming INC reader on memes: https://networkcultures.org/blog/2020/11/13/call-for-proposals-inc-reader-15-critical-meme-research/ If so, swing an abstract to criticalmemereader[at]networkcultures.org by 16 December 2020. Also, feel free to share this call with any potentially interested network or party. Cheers, Jack Critical Meme Research As they metastasized from the digital periphery to the mainstream, memes have seethed with mutant energy. From now on, any historical event will be haunted by its memetic double — just as any pandemic will have its own infodemic that will recursively act upon it — issuing in the kinds of cross-contamination that Baudrillard already prefigured in the 1980s: of the convoluted age of simulacra, of epistemological crises associated with postmodernity, and of a generalized informational obesity whose gravitational pull bends reality to whatever “program”, in the multiple senses of that term. In its idiosyncratic track, our responses to memes in the new decade demand an analogous virtuality. Beyond the so-called ‘Alt-right’ and its attendant milieus on 4chan and Reddit, memes have passed the post-digital threshold and entered new theoretical, practical, and geographical territories beyond the stereotypical young, white, male, western subject. While academic scrutiny has largely lagged behind memetic production, online-facing media has tended to uncritically relay or clutch its pearls in ways that malicious actors tactically exploit. These conditions demand an approach that matches the deterritorializing violence of memes: their ability to abstract and frame, deduce and reduce, to distill and hide, and to alter our perception and behavior through contagious spectacle and cognitive terraforming. Lastly, what will become of the meme that has been declared dead yet refuses to go away? Does the very notion of a meme become redundant once it is all-pervasive, like any successful cultural technology? Yet we also seek to revisit old territories: what can we salvage from these affective and aesthetic ruins to re-enchant our present appreciation of memes and meme culture? How can we (re)theorise the meme as something between a semiotic surface and asignifying network (or something else entirely)? How can we apply the meme (as it is now/as it will be) as a hermeneutic for the study of other online phenomena like the spread of conspiracy narratives? How are memes made and deployed beyond spaces of (sub)cultural production and what are the implications of this? What is it to see oneself in a meme? We invite authors from a variety of disciplinary and cultural backgrounds to contribute manifestos, essays, interviews, fictions, artworks and other speculative interventions in our understanding of what memes are, or will be, in the process of becoming. Potential topics include, but are not limited to: - (Re)theorising the meme (between semiotic surface and asignifying network) - Non-anglophone & local meme cultures (Pepe in Hong Kong, meme-driven moral panics in India, anti-censorship memeing in China, Japanese imageboards) - Meme genealogies and web histories (usenet, Something Awful, YTMND) - New approaches to online visual culture (archive.org, altpedias, image analysis) - Artistic appropriations of memetic styles and tactics - Unfunny memes & attendant notions of influence, manipulation, gamification, and war (in propaganda and political campaigning, armed conflict, population control, genocide, global intelligence, viral marketing) - Memes and online identity politics (gender, race, class) - Memetic subjectivities and political affects (zoomers, doomers, Karens, Chads, Wojaks) - Conspiracy theories as memetic narratives - Normiefication and its counter-responses (ironic/post-ironic, wholesome, surrealist, dank, meta memes) INC Reader #15 – Critical Meme Research will be edited by Chloë Arkenbout, Jack Wilson and Daniel de Zeeuw. Proposals/abstracts should be around 300-500 words. Send these to criticalmemereader[at]networkcultures.org by 16 December 2020. Final texts should be 500-5000 words and submitted by 10 March 2021. # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
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On 24.11.20 04:14, Brian Holmes wrote: > Here's my two cents: Keynes aimed to save capitalism from itself. Double > down on Keynes, unleash vast new creative energies on the basis of fiat > money, and maybe, instead of sapping capital's foundations, we can push it > over the top into ecosocialism. There are probably two distinct political strategies here. And it would be interesting to work out their relation. The first is move capitalism towards a different regime of accumulation, one based less on extractivism and consumerism but rather more on renewable energy and "eco-system services" for repairing some of the damage already done (I know, this term is conventionally used in a different sense). A little bit of this we are already seeing, with the EU's project to become a first climate neutral continent by 2050, China commitment by 2060 and new Biden admin making similar gestures. So far, actual effects, in terms of reducing the output of CO2 and and ending/slowing down the loss of biological diversity, have not been achieved. The big question is: is that too little too late, unable to overcome very real system barriers to substantial change? Or can this be made into the beginning of a self-accelerating shift in the energy regime of global civilization? In the longer run, it's hard to imagine how capitalism can still be capitalism without treating "nature" as an externality. So the question then becomes, what are the condition under which a 'greener capitalism' can be pushed into something else. In a way that is like an update of the old Marxian idea that capitalism will produce productive forces on which communism can be realized. all the best. Felix -- | || http://felix.openflows.com | | Open PGP | http://felix.openflows.com/pgp.txt | OpenPGP_0x0BBB5B950C9FF2AC.asc Description: application/pgp-keys OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
