Re: Is Russia losing in Ukraine? Indian army generals respond (Times of India video)

2022-03-12 Thread Keith Sanborn
Interesting perspective. The interview questions were well-researched and posed 
quite pointedly as one might expect.

Otherwise, it seemed that both generals had their own biases, some ideological.

Chauhan was clearly either an apologist for Russia or badly informed ("We don’t 
know what the Ukrainians think about their President." It seems clear we do 
know that Ukrainains, even those who opposed him, are resisting the invasion 
and supporting Zelinsky. "30% of Eastern Ukrainians are pro-Russian." Actually 
they are Russian speakers: so is Zelinsky. That doesn’t make them sympathetic 
to a Russian invasion. This is almost a Putin talking point.) That said, 
Chauhan, while an apologist for Russian military failure, did make a plausible 
argument that this first invasion force, was simply a reconnaissance force and 
that the main invasion would be launched later. If I am recalling correctly, he 
was dead wrong about the impression that Russian bombing campaigns are making 
abroad; he was right that they are designed to wreak havoc on the Ukrainian 
population. How finely calibrated they are, is up for grabs. Putin has not 
appeared “rational,” by offering humanitarian corridors leading to Russia, 
though his larger strategy has proved formidable.

I was especially interested in the discussion of Indian military procurement. 
What happens if Russia can’t supply parts for Indian Migs? General Hasnain 
suggested that Russia was having problems sourcing parts for its own aircraft 
in Ukraine. General Chauhan simply asserted that the supply to India was 
guaranteed. Hasnain seemed a bit more skeptical about Russian military 
competence; not sure if that makes him “pro-western.” He certainly made a point 
of disavowing “western” strategic analysis of the situation in Ukraine. In any 
case, India has been constrained by military dependence on Russia for arms on 
joining any international boycott. There will certainly be some longterm price 
to pay for that, especially as India tries to ramp up its homegrown tech 
industry. I would predict a slow-down in US technology transfer, though there 
are other places they can go. And what’s the future of US visas for Indian 
engineers? In these matters, financial considerations will likely take 
precedence over morality. India has a surfeit of highly trained engineers with 
inadequate employment opportunities at home. That can be a formula for civil 
discontent as we have seen in North Africa.

Ironically, both generals agreed that military procurement and military 
self-sufficiency were long-terms issues and the difficult point of Pakistan as 
part of the Euriasian/Belt and Road initiative also provided insights.

So far, India has been relying on Russia’s support against China in their 
border disputes, at least in the form of weapons  I think they sense that 
support is tenuous as Pakistan is central to the Eurasian project as well as 
stability in Russian client states with large Muslim populations. Who knows who 
is going to get played; the Pakistani military have been playing the US for 
years. Russia is not in a position of strength here, nor is China, though 
Pakistan has bought in to Belt and Road. One has to wonder about blow-back in 
Pakistan concerning the Chinese treatment of Uighur Muslims. Pakistan is a 
country where blasphemy (against Islam) carries the death penalty, even if it’s 
seldom enforced. What happens if Pakistan launches an offensive in Kashmir at 
the same time China attacks in its disputed border regions with India? Neither 
regions are particularly hospitable to Russian made tank warfare, if I am not 
mistaken.

One final point: Did Putin’s threat to use nuclear weapons effectively 
“checkmate" a military response from Europe and NATO, as the interviewer 
suggests? Perhaps it's simply a gambit, in short, a bluff. What if the US or 
Europe were to call that bluff, or make military countermoves, like those 
Polish Migs. Whoops.

Guess it’s time to remove my armchair general’s uniform.

Keith



> On Mar 10, 2022, at 1:21 PM, patrice riemens  wrote:
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> नमस्ते ,
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> "When India speaks, the world listens" -Jawaharlal Nehru
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwj3WtrQZaw 
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> (20m46s)
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Is Russia losing in Ukraine? Indian army generals respond (Times of India video)

2022-03-10 Thread patrice riemens
नमस्ते ,

"When India speaks, the world listens" -Jawaharlal Nehru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwj3WtrQZaw

(20m46s)

(with thanks to Harv S)

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