Re: Looking for advice about using NM with a Sprint U301 modem
> I'm looking into the 598 now, and I'm having a little trouble getting > NM to recognize it. I plug in the device and I can see by using dmesg > that the sierra driver gets loaded, but when I run > nm-connection-editor and try to edit the connection, it doesn't get > listed in the device dropdown. Is there anything I have to do to get > it recognized? I also haven't been able to find any good guides on > setting it up. I'm running Ubuntu Karmic right now. On Sierra's site there is a link(http://www.sierrawireless.com/en/Support/knowledgebase.aspx) in the knowledge base which says: "**Note: Ubuntu 9.10 distribution is not supported with Sierra Wireless modems. Ubuntu 9.04 distribution is still supported with all Sierra Wireless modems listed in this KB article. We expect the issue to be fixed in Ubuntu 10.4." If you require Ubuntu 9.10 and Sierra isn't working get a Novatel. -- John ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
What does the NM Applet button do?
When you click left on the NetworkManager applet, there is a list of connections, and you must select one of the radio buttons there to get networking working. What exactly does selecting that radio button do? Here's why I ask. I don't really need NM at all, because I can edit all the network configuration files by hand and then restart network services with # services network restart This should be enough to bring networking up, but it's not: I still have to select one of those radio buttons in the NM applet. To try to determine what pressing that button does, I have checked services before and after, and there is no difference. Also, I have checked the config files before and after, and they are not changed. So what happens under the hood when I select one of the buttons in the applet? Why doesn't networking come back on until I press it? I'm using NetworkManager 0.7.1 on Fedora 9. Thanks. ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Looking for advice about using NM with a Sprint U301 modem
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:27, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:19, Dan Williams wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:54 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 08:12, Daenyth Blank wrote: >>> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 03:16, Dan Williams wrote: >>> >> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 12:04 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm trying to find out some information regarding the Sprint U301 3G >>> >>> modem. Our use case for it is that it will be attached to an embedded >>> >>> machine running ubuntu with networkmanager, in addition to our >>> >>> software. I've been trying to get this modem to connect reliably and >>> >>> am having some issues with it. I've added a udev rule so that the >>> >>> usbserial driver is given the correct vendor/product information, and >>> >>> it connects automatically on boot, but not reliably. Some boots it >>> >>> does not connect at all and won't until I reboot. Sometimes it >>> >>> disconnects while the machine is running. If it disconnects either by >>> >>> itself or from deactivating the connection, it will not connect again >>> >>> and needs a reboot. The nm/mm logs say that serial requests are timing >>> >>> out when it's in the non-connected state. I haven't been able to >>> >>> recover from the disconnected state with anything about a reboot. >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there anything we can do with this device to increase reliability? >>> >>> Failing that, can you recommend a usb Sprint 3G modem that will be >>> >>> more reliable? If there are none, do you have any recommendations for >>> >>> any brand of 3G modem that will work well in this situation? The boxes >>> >>> will be deployed where manual access is not easy, so it needs to be >>> >>> able to connect and recover from disconnections automatically, or at >>> >>> least in a way that can be scripted easily. >>> >> >>> >> You're certainly not going to be able to get the WiMAX part of the >>> >> device working automatically since we dont' have drivers for the Beceem >>> >> chipset of the WiMAX side. However, the EVDO side should work with >>> >> cdc-acm, so if you have to use 'usb-serial' there's already something >>> >> wrong. >>> >> >>> >> I suspect you need to use usb_modeswitch to eject the fake CD that the >>> >> device provides too, correct? >>> >> >>> >> Honestly, UTStarcom-based devices (which the 300 and 301 are rebrands >>> >> of) often don't work that well as you've found out. I'd recommend a >>> >> Sierra device instead, as Sierra is also very active in Linux kernel >>> >> development and has great support for their devices. >>> >> >>> >> Dan >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > Thanks Forest, Dan. I'm going to recommend to our client that we use >>> > the Sierra cards. Appreciate the advice! >>> > >>> >>> I'm looking into the 598 now, and I'm having a little trouble getting >>> NM to recognize it. I plug in the device and I can see by using dmesg >>> that the sierra driver gets loaded, but when I run >>> nm-connection-editor and try to edit the connection, it doesn't get >>> listed in the device dropdown. Is there anything I have to do to get >>> it recognized? I also haven't been able to find any good guides on >>> setting it up. I'm running Ubuntu Karmic right now. >> >> It should show up in the menu after a few seconds. Try grabbing some >> debugging information as described here to figure out why things aren't >> working: >> >> http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/Debugging >> >> under the "Debugging NetworkManager 0.8.x 3G connections" section. >> Basically, we want to get modem-manager logs to find out why the modem >> doesn't appear to be found. >> >> Dan >> >> >> > > I'll try to get that today, first with a normal install and then with > the configs that Forest suggested. > I waited a few minutes as you suggested and then I was able to add the connection... I must have just been impatient during my testing the other day. Thanks for the help! ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Looking for advice about using NM with a Sprint U301 modem
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:19, Dan Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:54 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 08:12, Daenyth Blank wrote: >> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 03:16, Dan Williams wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 12:04 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >> >>> >> >>> I'm trying to find out some information regarding the Sprint U301 3G >> >>> modem. Our use case for it is that it will be attached to an embedded >> >>> machine running ubuntu with networkmanager, in addition to our >> >>> software. I've been trying to get this modem to connect reliably and >> >>> am having some issues with it. I've added a udev rule so that the >> >>> usbserial driver is given the correct vendor/product information, and >> >>> it connects automatically on boot, but not reliably. Some boots it >> >>> does not connect at all and won't until I reboot. Sometimes it >> >>> disconnects while the machine is running. If it disconnects either by >> >>> itself or from deactivating the connection, it will not connect again >> >>> and needs a reboot. The nm/mm logs say that serial requests are timing >> >>> out when it's in the non-connected state. I haven't been able to >> >>> recover from the disconnected state with anything about a reboot. >> >>> >> >>> Is there anything we can do with this device to increase reliability? >> >>> Failing that, can you recommend a usb Sprint 3G modem that will be >> >>> more reliable? If there are none, do you have any recommendations for >> >>> any brand of 3G modem that will work well in this situation? The boxes >> >>> will be deployed where manual access is not easy, so it needs to be >> >>> able to connect and recover from disconnections automatically, or at >> >>> least in a way that can be scripted easily. >> >> >> >> You're certainly not going to be able to get the WiMAX part of the >> >> device working automatically since we dont' have drivers for the Beceem >> >> chipset of the WiMAX side. However, the EVDO side should work with >> >> cdc-acm, so if you have to use 'usb-serial' there's already something >> >> wrong. >> >> >> >> I suspect you need to use usb_modeswitch to eject the fake CD that the >> >> device provides too, correct? >> >> >> >> Honestly, UTStarcom-based devices (which the 300 and 301 are rebrands >> >> of) often don't work that well as you've found out. I'd recommend a >> >> Sierra device instead, as Sierra is also very active in Linux kernel >> >> development and has great support for their devices. >> >> >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Thanks Forest, Dan. I'm going to recommend to our client that we use >> > the Sierra cards. Appreciate the advice! >> > >> >> I'm looking into the 598 now, and I'm having a little trouble getting >> NM to recognize it. I plug in the device and I can see by using dmesg >> that the sierra driver gets loaded, but when I run >> nm-connection-editor and try to edit the connection, it doesn't get >> listed in the device dropdown. Is there anything I have to do to get >> it recognized? I also haven't been able to find any good guides on >> setting it up. I'm running Ubuntu Karmic right now. > > It should show up in the menu after a few seconds. Try grabbing some > debugging information as described here to figure out why things aren't > working: > > http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/Debugging > > under the "Debugging NetworkManager 0.8.x 3G connections" section. > Basically, we want to get modem-manager logs to find out why the modem > doesn't appear to be found. > > Dan > > > I'll try to get that today, first with a normal install and then with the configs that Forest suggested. ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Looking for advice about using NM with a Sprint U301 modem
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:54 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 08:12, Daenyth Blank wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 03:16, Dan Williams wrote: > >> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 12:04 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I'm trying to find out some information regarding the Sprint U301 3G > >>> modem. Our use case for it is that it will be attached to an embedded > >>> machine running ubuntu with networkmanager, in addition to our > >>> software. I've been trying to get this modem to connect reliably and > >>> am having some issues with it. I've added a udev rule so that the > >>> usbserial driver is given the correct vendor/product information, and > >>> it connects automatically on boot, but not reliably. Some boots it > >>> does not connect at all and won't until I reboot. Sometimes it > >>> disconnects while the machine is running. If it disconnects either by > >>> itself or from deactivating the connection, it will not connect again > >>> and needs a reboot. The nm/mm logs say that serial requests are timing > >>> out when it's in the non-connected state. I haven't been able to > >>> recover from the disconnected state with anything about a reboot. > >>> > >>> Is there anything we can do with this device to increase reliability? > >>> Failing that, can you recommend a usb Sprint 3G modem that will be > >>> more reliable? If there are none, do you have any recommendations for > >>> any brand of 3G modem that will work well in this situation? The boxes > >>> will be deployed where manual access is not easy, so it needs to be > >>> able to connect and recover from disconnections automatically, or at > >>> least in a way that can be scripted easily. > >> > >> You're certainly not going to be able to get the WiMAX part of the > >> device working automatically since we dont' have drivers for the Beceem > >> chipset of the WiMAX side. However, the EVDO side should work with > >> cdc-acm, so if you have to use 'usb-serial' there's already something > >> wrong. > >> > >> I suspect you need to use usb_modeswitch to eject the fake CD that the > >> device provides too, correct? > >> > >> Honestly, UTStarcom-based devices (which the 300 and 301 are rebrands > >> of) often don't work that well as you've found out. I'd recommend a > >> Sierra device instead, as Sierra is also very active in Linux kernel > >> development and has great support for their devices. > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > > > > Thanks Forest, Dan. I'm going to recommend to our client that we use > > the Sierra cards. Appreciate the advice! > > > > I'm looking into the 598 now, and I'm having a little trouble getting > NM to recognize it. I plug in the device and I can see by using dmesg > that the sierra driver gets loaded, but when I run > nm-connection-editor and try to edit the connection, it doesn't get > listed in the device dropdown. Is there anything I have to do to get > it recognized? I also haven't been able to find any good guides on > setting it up. I'm running Ubuntu Karmic right now. It should show up in the menu after a few seconds. Try grabbing some debugging information as described here to figure out why things aren't working: http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/Debugging under the "Debugging NetworkManager 0.8.x 3G connections" section. Basically, we want to get modem-manager logs to find out why the modem doesn't appear to be found. Dan ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Question about Network Manager on FreeBSD
Dan, Thanks for the update. Jesse -Original Message- From: Dan Williams To: Jesse Smith Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question about Network Manager on FreeBSD Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:58:41 -0700 On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 20:32 -0300, Jesse Smith wrote: > Hello, > > I've really been enjoying using Network Manager on my Linux machine and > I'd like to be able to use NM on my FreeBSD machine too. Will Network > Manager compile and run on BSD? Is there any work in progress to add > Network Manager to the FreeBSD Ports system? No, there isn't any effort going towards this at this time. While a lot of NM is actually agnostic, there are critical parts that are tied to Linux infrastructure like udev and netlink. There have been discussions in the past at making those parts more generic, but there haven't yet been any useful libraries that make these operations generic across platforms. Dan ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
