[newbie] modem needs long time to start
Hi, with several versions tried (Mandrake 9.1, 9.2 and 10) the external Dynalink modem needs at least 1 minute to initialize. After this there is no problem to connect, with SuSE and Red Hat the initialization was nearly instandly, am I missing something or do I have to live with the delay? TIA, Herman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] arrrrggggggg
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 15:38, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 22 May 2004 12:36 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Would you do me a flavor? In the interests of Science? To test this theory of mine, that this is perhaps germane to the video card itself, would you turn on system bios shadowing, but leave video shadowing off, and see if your system remains stable. I'm curious. If in fact you've already tried this, just let me know. Otherwise, I'm all ears. LX FWIW, video shadowing is generally OK. Enabling further bios shadowing is NOT. Not really, Tom, it depends on the individual situation. I've never had a problem with bios shadowing under linux and I've been doing it for 12 years professionally in linux systems, both with my systems and with customer's systems. System boards that I have had experience with involving this include Tyan, Asus, Abit, Shuttle, FIC, Young Micro(no longer in business), MSI, and a bunch of others I can't remember right now. Most of the bioses I've encountered have been Award bioses. I try to shy away from Phoenix. As I was saying, Matrox is a special case because it had a wierd bios that didn't like shadowing. This was a problem not just under Dos but apparently also under Winblows and Linux too. I remember this situation because at one time I was into 2d accelleration back in my Dos gaming days, and I ran PC Bench alot. Version 9. The Matrox would crash the Dos machine when shadowing was enabled. Shadowing is always desirable over non-shadowing because accessing the bios directly is extremely slw. The Matrox card was different because it just wouldn't work any other way other than shutting down shadowing. ATI was the only other manufacturer that ever produced a card that acted like that, and that was in the 1990's. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange Activity
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 15:18, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 13:18, JoeHill wrote: ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've used were like that. Absolutely right ! Thanks ! Nice twist in the right direction, Joe. :) LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opera
--- On Sunday 23 May 2004 00:56, Erylon Hines wrote: | To keep this on topic, Opera 7.5 is an excellent browser with a very | attractive interface. The Opera folks did a good job and deserve the | praise. Absolutely right - my point is that I like each job to be done by a separate app. If you're using one app to act as browser, email client and newsreader (not to mention HTML editor, address book etc) then it's harder to adopt newer, better single-function apps when they become available. In other words, if a whizzy new browser comes along, you either have to find new clients to do all the other functions that you were doing with your old browser, or carry on using it accepting that you're carrying deadweight. I like Opera a lot, but I wish they'd produce a 'lite' version which was just a browser, the way Mozilla has done with Firebird/Firefox. That said (and talking about deadweight) I have Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, Firebird and Firefox installed on this machine, because I use them all to check the web sites I create! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dead Laptop
From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: i have a laptop here that belongs to a friend it is dead no OS i do not have a floppy for it I have set the BIOS to boot off the floppy drive. I need tom get mandrake on this box (hey she's cute) Laptop is a Toshibatecra 550cdt any way to force it to read the CD? I'm pretty sure you need to have one boot device or another :) I take it there is no option in the bios to boot from CD ? Asa Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dead Laptop
On Sunday 23 May 2004 03:51 am, Asa Rossoff wrote: From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: i have a laptop here that belongs to a friend it is dead no OS i do not have a floppy for it I have set the BIOS to boot off the floppy drive. I need tom get mandrake on this box (hey she's cute) Laptop is a Toshibatecra 550cdt any way to force it to read the CD? I'm pretty sure you need to have one boot device or another :) I take it there is no option in the bios to boot from CD ? There is and I have reset it ,but I dont think that there is enough left on the HD to even allow that. Asa Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card
Walt Frampus wrote: On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 18:21, John wrote: I have just installed nvidia geforce mx 4000 graphics card. Installation appeared to go ok using the md10 driver and kernel source.I am using the opengl screensavers however and they are now moving frame by frame instead of flowing as before. Is 128mb of ram not enough or are there other settings to change? I used the mandrake drivers as it was easier for newbie me than installing driver from nvidia.com. Thanks in advance for help. John __ you will need the NVIDIA.com driver, just make sure you have your kernel source installed. It is not as hard as you think to install it. Walt Hello The .run file did not find the kernel source file. How would I specify the kernel source path? I have tried several of the command options listed in the read me text. The nvidia-installer log says that it is unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. I am using md10 with kernel 2.6.3-7mdk. Thanks John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 07:50, John wrote: Hello The .run file did not find the kernel source file. How would I specify the kernel source path? I have tried several of the command options listed in the read me text. The nvidia-installer log says that it is unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. I am using md10 with kernel 2.6.3-7mdk. Thanks John __ Have you gone to the PLF easy urpmi site and set it up? (http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php) If so, you will be able to download the kernel source for your kernel through Mandrake control center. Once installed, hit ctrl-alt-f1, sign on, SU to root, type: init 3, then sh NVIDIA-Linux etc. At this point it should install the driver. type init 5 and then ctrl-alt-f7 which will bring you back to your window manager. Go to mandrake control center and under hardware, set up your graphics card. log out and restart X or just reboot and it should load the NVIDIA driver. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] undelivered mail notices
At 06:51 PM 5/22/04, John wrote: I am having problems getting through to the list. I keep getting undelivered mail notices. I have sent several e-mails to the postmaster at mandrax.org but have yet to receive a response. I have posted and had replies and then received the notice. Help please john I also received a bounced message after my last posting to this list. On closer inspection of the received headers, I realise the bounce did not come from this list, but actually came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - My guess is this email address no longer exists and that this misconfigured mailserver bounces messages to the wrong email address. Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opera
On Sunday 23 May 2004 09:05, Steve Mansfield wrote: SNIP I like Opera a lot, but I wish they'd produce a 'lite' version which was just a browser, the way Mozilla has done with Firebird/Firefox. That said (and talking about deadweight) I have Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, Firebird and Firefox installed on this machine, because I use them all to check the web sites I create! Start opera with opera -nomail and M2 will not be loaded. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to fix linmodem for 2.6 kernel
On Sunday 23 May 2004 00:42, murallo wrote: Hi, I'm an improving newbie - that means I can do most of the things that linux deems to be essential like downloading weird libraries and recompiling kernels without having to ask too many questions from the helpful folk online. However I'd appreciate it anyone out there can answer this one. I have an internal linmodem (Intel v92ham) which I have installed sucessfully under several different linux releases using various 2.4 kernels including this one (slackware 9.1 with 2.4.22 kernel) But all attempts to run this modem with a 2.6 kernel seem doomed to failure. First the script only allows compilation with 2.4 kernels and second I think that 2.6 requires the resulting modules to be of type .ko. So, can I compile my old sources under 2.6 and convert them to .ko somehow? Can I get new sources compatible with 2.6? Do I buy a new modem? New system is mandrake 10 (from linux format magazine) with 2.6.3 kernel K7S5A board with athlon 2000 256 MB memory (onboard sound), GEForce FX5200, Dell 18 LCD And it all works a treat, except for that dratted modem Oh, and the scanner - but that's another story Best Regards Harry Anderson I have the same modem, which worked fine under Mandrake 8.2 but doesn` t under 10.0. I posted to the linmodem list, and have copied the essential parts of the thread below. Unfortunately, it doesn` t look very promising... I` m using an external modem now. I`d be pleased to be informed if anyone finds a better solution. Kat Peter, kernel compilation will NOT help!! Winmodem code comes with a pre-compiled component, that is NOT being updated. The HaM chipests will NEVER be functional under Linux 2.6.3 code MarvS Many thanks for letting me know. I`ll get by using an external modem until I learn kernel compilation then. Kat On Thursday 29 Apr 2004 16:20, vbm linux wrote: Yes, Sorry but HaM is not maintained anymore. And it is getting harder each day to convince my managers to let me keep 536ep up to date as well. (everything is about the 537 softmodem now) -dorian Kat, Sadly as expected below -- The 453 code release is also the last for this older chipset (relates Intel maintainer Dorian Araneda). Thus HaM code failures can be expected under the emerging 2.6.nn kernels. - From our experience with the Lucent DSP modem code, it is a LOT of expect work in even the Open Source code component to achieve a 2.4 - 2.6 migration I am copying to Dorian Araneda, should he have any further information. You will need a 2.6.n supported modem chipset. ModemData.txt.2 relates the current options. Condolences, MarvS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange Activity
On Sun, 23 May 2004 03:30:06 -0400 Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following: ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've used were like that. Absolutely right ! Thanks ! Nice twist in the right direction, Joe. :) Hey, even brainwashed socialist idiots get it right once in awhile... -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org +++ President Bush is asking Congress for $80 billion dollars to rebuild Iraq. And when you make out that check, remember there are two L's in Halliburton. -- David Letterman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange Activity
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 10:22, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2004 03:30:06 -0400 Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following: ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've used were like that. Absolutely right ! Thanks ! Nice twist in the right direction, Joe. :) Hey, even brainwashed socialist idiots get it right once in awhile... Don't be so hard on yourself, Joe. ;) It's the dawn of a new era, hopefully. A more cerebral one. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange Activity
On Saturday 22 May 2004 8:18 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 13:18, JoeHill wrote: ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've used were like that. Absolutely right ! Thanks ! If you're running 2.6 kernel there might be a better way by setting the capability bits on the executable. I don't know if the tools are in place yet to set it up though. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card
Walt Frampus wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 07:50, John wrote: Hello The .run file did not find the kernel source file. How would I specify the kernel source path? I have tried several of the command options listed in the read me text. The nvidia-installer log says that it is unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. I am using md10 with kernel 2.6.3-7mdk. Thanks John __ Have you gone to the PLF easy urpmi site and set it up? (http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php) If so, you will be able to download the kernel source for your kernel through Mandrake control center. Once installed, hit ctrl-alt-f1, sign on, SU to root, type: init 3, then sh NVIDIA-Linux etc. At this point it should install the driver. type init 5 and then ctrl-alt-f7 which will bring you back to your window manager. Go to mandrake control center and under hardware, set up your graphics card. log out and restart X or just reboot and it should load the NVIDIA driver. Walt Walt I had to remove the kernel source that I had installed from the cd's and reinstall. After that it was a very short time and everything was working great. It has been a learning experience for me and frustrating at times. Thanks for your help and thanks to Robin also. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 11:12, John wrote: Walt I had to remove the kernel source that I had installed from the cd's and reinstall. After that it was a very short time and everything was working great. It has been a learning experience for me and frustrating at times. Thanks for your help and thanks to Robin also. John If you really want a learning experience, try Gentoo LOL Walt (who still has mandrake on his main computer and always will ;-) ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opera
On Sunday 23 May 2004 15:51, Derek Jennings wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2004 09:05, Steve Mansfield wrote: SNIP I like Opera a lot, but I wish they'd produce a 'lite' version which was just a browser, the way Mozilla has done with Firebird/Firefox. That said (and talking about deadweight) I have Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, Firebird and Firefox installed on this machine, because I use them all to check the web sites I create! Start opera with opera -nomail and M2 will not be loaded. derek I think it's possible to do that under the Tools -- Preferences -- Programs and paths where one can uncheck enable mail and chat Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] How to format install Mdk10oe on JFFS2?
How to format install Mdk10oe on JFFS2? I would like to put Mdk10 on a small (100MB) IDE flash drive but JFFS2 is not listed as one of the standard options. How can I format the drive as JFFS2 and install Mdk10oe? I was thinking to along these lines: 1. Install Mdk in ram disk 2. Use fdisk/mkfs/et al to format the drive 3. Reboot/reinstall to the already formated drive Problem is I don't know how to do step 1, dooh. :) Thanks...David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Option to select eth0 during install?
Option to select eth0 during install? Mdk10oe selects the wrong ethernet driver during installation. I install/boot via PXE. I can get around the problem by adding the expert option. The expert option will let me pick the network driver manually. It works but then there are a lot of other questions that I would rather not deal with. Is there some option syntax that will let me pick the ethernet driver? Thanks...David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] How to fsck your KDE menus, and fix them in one easy lesson
I had this experience yesterday and thought I'd throw out to the list how I fixed it to. Hopefully to save someone else the agony I went through. I was adding an item to the KDE menu yesterday when I got interupped. I had already added the submenu. I came back to the system and closed out menudrake, forgetting I had a blank submenu sitting there. Suddenly nothing worked on the panel, my KDE Control Center was empty, and the popup menu was missing most everything. Needless to say I paniced. I could still pull up Mozilla so I went searching the archives for missing menus Found the answer update-menus -v however, that kept erroring out. Finally after studying the output of update-menus I figured out it was telling me there was a blank menu entry that was screwing up everything. I reloaded menudrake from the CLI, removed the entry, reran update-menus and everything was back as it was before. So, lesson learned, if you put in a menu entry, never leave it blank. If you're not going to use it, delete it. -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 11:36am up 2 days, 16:58, 2 users, load average: 0.13, 0.13, 0.15 Once upon a time there was a DOS user who saw Unix, and saw that it was good. After typing cp on his DOS machine at home, he downloaded GNU's unix tools ported to DOS and installed them. He rm'd, cp'd, and mv'd happily for many days, and upon finding elvis, he vi'd and was happy. After a long day at work (on a Unix box) he came home, started editing a file, and couldn't figure out why he couldn't suspend vi (w/ ctrl-z) to do a compile. (By [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Troan) Live - From Virgin Radio U.K. The Lightning Seeds - The Life Of Riley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI
On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:43 -0600 Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got Mahjongg 3D working. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly what I did to get it working. I downloaded the 0.92 release from the author's web site (I Do you have a link? I figured it might be on sourceforge, so I checked, and sure enough, it's there, but I could not get the CVS to work, because I could not determine any module names to check out, and the directions just say to co modulename. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] test
Accidentally deleted all my procmail configuration files. Testing to see if I got 'em back correctly or not. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to fsck your KDE menus, and fix them in one easy lesson
Hi Chris, If you feel this is a KDE bug then it may be a good idea to report it to KDE bugzilla. Chris wrote: I had this experience yesterday and thought I'd throw out to the list how I fixed it to. Hopefully to save someone else the agony I went through. [Deleted] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 Burning
On Fri, 21 May 2004 21:08:20 +0100 Drew Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I have just got a CD/MP3 Disc player for the car.What I would like to know is if I burn a MP3 CD,using 3KB or some other burning tool,would It should play fine. I've been doing this sometime for my portable Sony Walkman. FWIW, these things are great, they play CDs full of mp3s as well as regular CDs. Add a foursome of rechargeable batteries and you're all set. It gave me a boatload of listening options back last September when I took the train trip to Portland (about 14 hours). And I still carry it around for commuting because I have a longish bus commute to work every day. The player i have supports ISO9660 level 1 or level 2 format,or Joliet or Romeo in the expansion format(whatever this means). That really has to do with the filenames. On my portable, the names of the songs show up, but not on my set-top DVD player (which also plays mp3s). I normally use gcombust for burning these things. I believe that Linux burning programs will use ISO9660 when I burn the disc,am I right. Right. iso9660 is the cdrom filesystem standard. Basically you just put all the mp3s you want to burn in a subdirectory, and then issue 'mkisofs -o cdimage list of files' which builds an iso9660 image with those files. There are some options which enable Rockridge / Joliet / whatever. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 Burning
On Sat, 22 May 2004 19:14:28 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: format. I have found a Windows program that will create them, but I would like to know how to make them using Linux software. Which portable? I think you may find that mp3 cd format is just an iso9660 with a bunch of mp3 files stored. See my other post. If by any chance you've got a Sony player, I've been happily making and playing mp3 disks for it for nearly a year. Mikkel -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to fsck your KDE menus, and fix them in one easy lesson
Chris wrote: I had this experience yesterday and thought I'd throw out to the list how I fixed it to. Hopefully to save someone else the agony I went through. I was adding an item to the KDE menu yesterday when I got interupped. I had already added the submenu. I came back to the system and closed out menudrake, forgetting I had a blank submenu sitting there. Suddenly nothing worked on the panel, my KDE Control Center was empty, and the popup menu was missing most everything. Needless to say I paniced. I could still pull up Mozilla so I went searching the archives for missing menus Found the answer update-menus -v however, that kept erroring out. Finally after studying the output of update-menus I figured out it was telling me there was a blank menu entry that was screwing up everything. I reloaded menudrake from the CLI, removed the entry, reran update-menus and everything was back as it was before. So, lesson learned, if you put in a menu entry, never leave it blank. If you're not going to use it, delete it. Thanks for the tip. How about adding it to the wiki? Sir Robin -- Don't be lucid and ironic; people will turn this against you to show that you aren't a nice person. - Albert Camus Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
Dexter N Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all You have hijacked a thread, see: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette please :) I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577 Motherboard. This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works fine under the pre-loaded XP. I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two... Firstly, the drivers themselves. Configure your computer says the hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages). I've tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better success than the default (snd_intel 8x0). The diagnostic procedures tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the results are cryptic: chkconfig --list sound reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or on. chkconfig --list alsa does the same. What do these mean? See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the diagnostic procedures is always a good idea. Nextly, the mixer. I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix. The help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons (above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me? Also, I can see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out? Yes, I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's really a mono one. Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0. Alsamixer has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'. Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play? Has anyone any pointers here? Hopefully... Dex HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?
On Fri, 14 May 2004 09:14:18 -0400 lake-wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very good advice, but for those that don't have the spare cash in their budget to join the club, you can download the i586 directory tree, create Why not get the CE ISO's as many have done, and then urpmi them up to final update status? -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?
David E. Fox wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2004 09:14:18 -0400 lake-wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very good advice, but for those that don't have the spare cash in their budget to join the club, you can download the i586 directory tree, create Why not get the CE ISO's as many have done, and then urpmi them up to final update status? I did that on my office machine, which has an ethernet connection, but I wouldn't want to try that at home with a modem connection! Sir Robin -- Don't be lucid and ironic; people will turn this against you to show that you aren't a nice person. - Albert Camus Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 06:45, robin wrote: David E. Fox wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2004 09:14:18 -0400 lake-wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very good advice, but for those that don't have the spare cash in their budget to join the club, you can download the i586 directory tree, create Why not get the CE ISO's as many have done, and then urpmi them up to final update status? I did that on my office machine, which has an ethernet connection, but I wouldn't want to try that at home with a modem connection! Sir Robin soapbox That is becoming something of an issue with me personally. Everyone else appears to be of the mindset that everyone else has a broadband connection and that they can happily urpmi everything to do this that and the other thing - which is not entirely true. Doing large scale updates is entirely out of the question for me unless I can do an upgrade or complete install from already created CD's. Really does tend to raise my ire. Aside from that, after many weeks of watching the MDK 10 issues and quirks, I'm resolved to sit and wait (as I always do) for a non whole number version. Every distro, every version that has been of a whole number has been, in my eyes, a testing ground and the .1 or .2 version has been the better bet. I've tested 10CE - played around with it enough to see that it's not going to be anything I can upgrade to or anything that I can install on my working box without heaps of headache, heaps of hacking, and heaps of change. And I'm certainly NOT going to get rid of my trusty linmodem just to get by. Mind you, I'd really like to have MDK 10+, but I fear it's going to be some time off - same as I waited for MDK 9.1 - which after I HAD waited, it was worth the wait in the end. I'm not trying to deter anyone from anything - I'm venting here. But bear in mind I'm also stating something that most of y'all oldies will already know. I'm also just mad as a wet hen that everyone seems to think that most of the world is capable of having broadband...ahem. /soapbox stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- You're growing out of some of your problems, but there are others that you're growing into. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 23:56, Stephen Kuhn wrote: soapbox That is becoming something of an issue with me personally. Everyone else appears to be of the mindset that everyone else has a broadband connection and that they can happily urpmi everything to do this that and the other thing - which is not entirely true. Doing large scale updates is entirely out of the question for me unless I can do an upgrade or complete install from already created CD's. Really does tend to raise my ire. Aside from that, after many weeks of watching the MDK 10 issues and quirks, I'm resolved to sit and wait (as I always do) for a non whole number version. Every distro, every version that has been of a whole number has been, in my eyes, a testing ground and the .1 or .2 version has been the better bet. I've tested 10CE - played around with it enough to see that it's not going to be anything I can upgrade to or anything that I can install on my working box without heaps of headache, heaps of hacking, and heaps of change. And I'm certainly NOT going to get rid of my trusty linmodem just to get by. Mind you, I'd really like to have MDK 10+, but I fear it's going to be some time off - same as I waited for MDK 9.1 - which after I HAD waited, it was worth the wait in the end. I'm not trying to deter anyone from anything - I'm venting here. But bear in mind I'm also stating something that most of y'all oldies will already know. I'm also just mad as a wet hen that everyone seems to think that most of the world is capable of having broadband...ahem. /soapbox stephen kuhn - owner Makes sense to me - the old saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' certainly applies. Another advantage of Linux over another operating system. BTW, moved here to Cyprus 2 years ago do have broadband (after a fashion - have to log on via an Active-X page), still can't get it where I used to live the the much more technologically advanced UK. -- Paul M. _ In the beginning, man created god. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, PM wrote: Makes sense to me - the old saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' certainly applies. Another advantage of Linux over another operating system. BTW, moved here to Cyprus 2 years ago do have broadband (after a fashion - have to log on via an Active-X page), still can't get it where I used to live the the much more technologically advanced UK. Technologically Advanced UK is an oxymoron. Now Turkey, OTOH... (And actually, Australia is rather amazing in most areas - we have wireless, ADSL, cable - just a matter of saving up the right amount of dollars to get my unlimited - yes - unlimited 512/256 connection going - along with a modem/router/vpn router) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. War is peace. -- George Orwell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??
Hi, I see options for threading messages in KMail but the messages are all un-threaded when I open it up each time. There are options under the View menu but when I select Collapse all Threads nothing happens. :-( Please let me know if there is something I am missing to get this working. Thanks! Richard ;-)~ -- ---Wolff On The Prowl--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 00:17, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, PM wrote: Makes sense to me - the old saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' certainly applies. Another advantage of Linux over another operating system. BTW, moved here to Cyprus 2 years ago do have broadband (after a fashion - have to log on via an Active-X page), still can't get it where I used to live the the much more technologically advanced UK. Technologically Advanced UK is an oxymoron. Now Turkey, OTOH... (And actually, Australia is rather amazing in most areas - we have wireless, ADSL, cable - just a matter of saving up the right amount of dollars to get my unlimited - yes - unlimited 512/256 connection going - along with a modem/router/vpn router) stephen kuhn - owner Sorry, I should have put some kind of sarcastic warning about Technologically Advanced UK, forgot We're a multi-national group. -- Linux number 312953 June 1995 http://counter.li.org. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??
Richard McCormick wrote: Hi, I see options for threading messages in KMail but the messages are all un-threaded when I open it up each time. There are options under the View menu but when I select Collapse all Threads nothing happens. :-( Please let me know if there is something I am missing to get this working. Thanks! Richard ;-)~ I use Mozilla not Kmail, so I can't tell you where to find the appropriate option, but I can tell you that Collapse all Threads won't work unless you are already viewing the messages as threaded! The Collapse option simply shows you a short list of all the *first* messages in each thread, with some sort of marker beside it to indicate that there are more messages in the thread - you can then expand the thread to see the whole list. I suggest you try to find an option that turns on threading in the first place (in Mozilla it is View = Messages = Threaded), then experiment with expand/collapse. Hope this is of some help! Margot PS before you get shouted at by list-Nazis, I suggest you turn off your reply-to setting so the replies go to the list and not just to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??
On Sunday 23 May 2004 12:32 am, Richard McCormick wrote: Hi, I see options for threading messages in KMail but the messages are all un-threaded when I open it up each time. There are options under the View menu but when I select Collapse all Threads nothing happens. :-( Under the Folder menu option, choose Thread Messages and it should stay that way for each folder. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:48, PM wrote: Sorry, I should have put some kind of sarcastic warning about Technologically Advanced UK, forgot We're a multi-national group. That's alright - having lived DownUnder for the past four years, I've become quite adept at understanding any reference to technology and Britain is meant sarcastically. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Picking up the pieces of my sweet shattered dream, I wonder how the old folks are tonight, Her name was Ann, and I'll be damned if I recall her face, She left me not knowing what to do. Carefree Highway, let me slip away on you, Carefree Highway, you seen better days, The morning after blues, from my head down to my shoes, Carefree Highway, let me slip away, slip away, on you... Turning back the pages to the times I love best, I wonder if she'll ever do the same, Now the thing that I call livin' is just bein' satisfied, With knowing I got noone left to blame. Carefree Highway, I got to see you, my old flame... Searching through the fragments of my dream shattered sleep, I wonder if the years have closed her mind, I guess it must be wanderlust or tryin' to get free, From the good old faithful feelin' we once knew. -- Gordon Lightfoot, Carefree Highway Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 08:03, Margot wrote: PS before you get shouted at by list-Nazis, I suggest you turn off your reply-to setting so the replies go to the list and not just to you. Is that a polite reference to JoeHill? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Anyone stupid enough to be caught by the police is probably guilty. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] arrrrggggggg
On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:46:34 -0400, Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -When the System Resources screen comes up during the Install, go to -the Printer Section and make sure you do a Print Test Page. This works, but if I remember correctly it does take up an additional IRQ. One of the reasons I went to an Epson USB printer... If memory serves, IRQ 7 is typically used in PC systems for the printer. I think my old, unused, ISA Sound Blaster AWE32 would allow you to select IRQ 7, but I can't remember any other cards I've used allowing me that option. From what I've been reading on the Linux Audio Users Group, IRQ 10 is a much better choice for a sound card. IRQ 7 has the lowest priority of all of the IRQ's. Here's the order of interrupt priority, from Highest Priority to Lowest Priority: (highest) 0, 1, 8, 9, 10, 11 12, 13, 14, 15, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (lowest) So using a printer on IRQ 7 seems quite reasonable to me. What else would one use it for? Note: 0 and 1 are for block devices, 8 is for the Real Time Clock. 9 is the first IRQ you could try for, but it's sometimes used as a redirected IRQ 2; so I leave it alone. IRQ 10 is really the first high priority IRQ you can expect to get exclusive access to. The Other Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Sunday 23 May 2004 01:39 pm, John Drouhard wrote: Accidentally deleted all my procmail configuration files. Testing to see if I got 'em back correctly or not. Honest, I don't have them. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] aac audio with MDK 10.0 O
I would like to access and listen to aac files under MDK 10.0 O. I downloaded aacplugin-1.1.4.tar.gz However it answered: configure: error: *** FAAD library (libfaad) not installed - please install first *** I have not been able to locate this file. I have tried searching from rmpDrake (I have set up urpmi with online sources) as well as sourgeforge and freshmeat. Any suggestions? Thanks Gideon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] apple ipod and MDK 10.0 O
I am trying to get my ipod (original 5 gig first gen) to work with MDK 10.0 O. I am ussing gtkpod 7.0 I am able to READ from the ipod, that is see the files and play them, but I am not able to write to it. When I try to synch gtkpod reports: Could not open iTunesDB /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB for writing. I have an inkiling that the the file /usr/fstab might have something to do with my problem (just a guess). I include the text of the file below, in case that is helpfull. I also tried changing combinations of the user and group of the whole directory recursively using chown, chgrp, and chmod. I couldnt get this to work. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks. Gideon /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda5 /fat32 vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults 0 0 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
Re-posting... sorry I hijacked a thread. I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577 Motherboard. This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works fine under the pre-loaded XP. I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two... Firstly, the drivers themselves. Configure your computer says the hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages). I've tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better success than the default (snd_intel 8x0). The diagnostic procedures tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the results are cryptic: chkconfig --list sound reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or on. chkconfig --list alsa does the same. What do these mean? Frans Ketelaars replied: See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the diagnostic procedures is always a good idea. Nextly, the mixer. I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix. The help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons (above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me? Also, I can see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out? Yes, I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's really a mono one. Frans replied: Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0. Alsamixer has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'. Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play? To continue the saga: I tried alsamixer, but with no more success in terms of sound output, and though it explained the red and green buttons in Kmix it raised a few points in itself. Kmix (bottom right corner) shows I am controlling Intel 82801DB-ICH4. I presume this is correct for the AC'97 as embedded on the mobo. The MCC (under Hardware/Hardware) says the Soundcard is ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller, and Module is snd-intel8x0. The green buttons are muted when dim, and un-muted when bright, i.e enabled. The red buttons are capture selected when bright. alsamixer says Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4, and Chip: Realtek ALC202 rev 0. The onboard LAN is a Realtek RTL8139 - is this part of the same chip? I'm having troubles with that too... man alsamixer says Spacebar toggles Capture mode on a valid input, adding or removing it from the capture sources. Its behaviour belies this: it selects that channel for capture, removing all other inputs from capture sources. Having found this, I noted that Kmix seems to allow multiple sources fro capture, though the red buttons will not clear immediately after being selected: another source has to be toggled in between. Strange... With a CD in the drive, and the CD player indicating that it is there and playing a track, and with the mixer (either alsamixer or Kmix) showing CD selected and volume high (80%+), there is still no sound out. #chkconfig --list sound sound0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #chkconfig --list alsa alsa 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #runlevel N 5 Any takers? :-) Hopefully... Dex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 9/04/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
On Sunday 23 May 2004 06:27 pm, Dexter N Muir wrote: Re-posting... sorry I hijacked a thread. I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577 Motherboard. This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works fine under the pre-loaded XP. I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two... Firstly, the drivers themselves. Configure your computer says the hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages). I've tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better success than the default (snd_intel 8x0). The diagnostic procedures tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the results are cryptic: chkconfig --list sound reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or on. chkconfig --list alsa does the same. What do these mean? Frans Ketelaars replied: See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the diagnostic procedures is always a good idea. Nextly, the mixer. I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix. The help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons (above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me? Also, I can see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out? Yes, I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's really a mono one. Frans replied: Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0. Alsamixer has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'. Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play? To continue the saga: I tried alsamixer, but with no more success in terms of sound output, and though it explained the red and green buttons in Kmix it raised a few points in itself. Kmix (bottom right corner) shows I am controlling Intel 82801DB-ICH4. I presume this is correct for the AC'97 as embedded on the mobo. The MCC (under Hardware/Hardware) says the Soundcard is ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller, and Module is snd-intel8x0. The green buttons are muted when dim, and un-muted when bright, i.e enabled. The red buttons are capture selected when bright. alsamixer says Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4, and Chip: Realtek ALC202 rev 0. The onboard LAN is a Realtek RTL8139 - is this part of the same chip? I'm having troubles with that too... man alsamixer says Spacebar toggles Capture mode on a valid input, adding or removing it from the capture sources. Its behaviour belies this: it selects that channel for capture, removing all other inputs from capture sources. Having found this, I noted that Kmix seems to allow multiple sources fro capture, though the red buttons will not clear immediately after being selected: another source has to be toggled in between. Strange... With a CD in the drive, and the CD player indicating that it is there and playing a track, and with the mixer (either alsamixer or Kmix) showing CD selected and volume high (80%+), there is still no sound out. #chkconfig --list sound sound0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #chkconfig --list alsa alsa 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #runlevel N 5 Any takers? :-) Hopefully... Dex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 9/04/2004 I have found that if the Mic volume is enabled then the cd does not play sound so make sure that the Mic volume is turned off. HTH -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] aac audio with MDK 10.0 O
On Monday 24 May 2004 00:14, g2 wrote: I would like to access and listen to aac files under MDK 10.0 O. I downloaded aacplugin-1.1.4.tar.gz However it answered: configure: error: *** FAAD library (libfaad) not installed - please install first *** I have not been able to locate this file. I have tried searching from rmpDrake (I have set up urpmi with online sources) as well as sourgeforge and freshmeat. Any suggestions? Thanks Gideon Any time you want to know which package a file lives in use urpmf urpmf libfaad You probably need to install libfaad2_0-devel as well as libfaad2_0 derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] aac audio with MDK 10.0 O
On Monday 24 May 2004 00:46, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 24 May 2004 00:14, g2 wrote: I would like to access and listen to aac files under MDK 10.0 O. I downloaded aacplugin-1.1.4.tar.gz However it answered: configure: error: *** FAAD library (libfaad) not installed - please install first *** I have not been able to locate this file. I have tried searching from rmpDrake (I have set up urpmi with online sources) as well as sourgeforge and freshmeat. Any suggestions? Thanks Gideon Any time you want to know which package a file lives in use urpmf urpmf libfaad You probably need to install libfaad2_0-devel as well as libfaad2_0 derek BTW: faad2 and libfaad2_0 are in the 'plf' online source. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?
On Sunday 23 May 2004 04:56 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: snip soapbox That is becoming something of an issue with me personally. Everyone else appears to be of the mindset that everyone else has a broadband connection and that they can happily urpmi everything to do this that and the other thing - which is not entirely true. Doing large scale updates is entirely out of the question for me unless I can do an upgrade or complete install from already created CD's. Really does tend to raise my ire. Excellent point. One way around the dilemma that works here is to order update CD's from Cheapbytes. (Quick, efficient, up-to-date and inexpensive.) Is there anything like their service available in Australia? Aside from that, after many weeks of watching the MDK 10 issues and quirks, I'm resolved to sit and wait (as I always do) for a non whole number version. Every distro, every version that has been of a whole number has been, in my eyes, a testing ground and the .1 or .2 version has been the better bet. My experience is somewhat different than yours. The only version that never did work right for me was 7.2 (in retrospect, those problems were likely due to my own shortcomings compounded by the limitations of the hardware I had at the time). 9.2 wasn't any bargain, either -- lots and lots of updates were required. Luckily, a kind soul on the list took pity on me and mailed me an update CD -- even more current than the cheapbytes version. Even a slow CDROM is faster than any broadband connection. I've tested 10CE - played around with it enough to see that it's not going to be anything I can upgrade to or anything that I can install on my working box without heaps of headache, heaps of hacking, and heaps of change. And I'm certainly NOT going to get rid of my trusty linmodem just to get by. Ain't no such thing as a trusty winmodem. Too much fiddling about, and too dependent on driver support. External serial modems don't need no stinking drivers. Elsewhere on this list there is a message from some guy who has found out not only that his particular trusty winmodem is not supported in the 2.6 kernels, but there is no plan to create such support. Some folks might consider that to be one hell of a learning opportunity. I don't. Yeah, he could run 10.0 with a 2.4 kernel, but isn't the new kernel the main point of 10.0? Mind you, I'd really like to have MDK 10+, but I fear it's going to be some time off - same as I waited for MDK 9.1 - which after I HAD waited, it was worth the wait in the end. I'm not trying to deter anyone from anything - I'm venting here. But bear in mind I'm also stating something that most of y'all oldies will already know. I'm also just mad as a wet hen that everyone seems to think that most of the world is capable of having broadband...ahem. /soapbox stephen kuhn - owner Thanks for the use of your soapbox. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dead Laptop
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sunday 23 May 2004 03:51 am, Asa Rossoff wrote: From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: i have a laptop here that belongs to a friend it is dead no OS i do not have a floppy for it I have set the BIOS to boot off the floppy drive. I need tom get mandrake on this box (hey she's cute) Laptop is a Toshibatecra 550cdt any way to force it to read the CD? I'm pretty sure you need to have one boot device or another :) I take it there is no option in the bios to boot from CD ? There is and I have reset it ,but I dont think that there is enough left on the HD to even allow that. I wouldn't think the contents of the harddrive would matter. Some older cd-rom drives don't read all CD-R's well, though... I think particularly the bluish ones. If you have a commercially produced bootable cd-rom of any kind, you could try that, and determine if it's just not reading the Mandrake CD. If you have access to another comperable laptop, you could swap the harddrive into that one and install from there, or at least install a boot manager such as Smart Boot Manager to the MBR on the drive, which can boot the CD-Rom. Asa Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] OT: annoying spam filters
I'm looking into a problem my high school reunion chair is having. Apparently most of his e-mails to the class are not making it to classmates with known active e-addresses. Since the e-mail has ~200 names on the To: list, I suspect it's being picked up as spam by some ISP bent on blocking our class reunion. Does anyone know if my hypothesis is reasonable and how one might get around such a filter (other than by sending 200 e-mails)? TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to fsck your KDE menus, and fix them in one easy lesson
On Sunday 23 May 2004 01:19 pm, Ayoub890 wrote: Hi Chris, If you feel this is a KDE bug then it may be a good idea to report it to KDE bugzilla. Chris wrote: I had this experience yesterday and thought I'd throw out to the list how I fixed it to. Hopefully to save someone else the agony I went through. [Deleted] Think the only bug was my case of forgetfullness in deleting an empty menu item. -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 8:54pm up 3 days, 2:16, 2 users, load average: 0.49, 0.66, 0.88 ..you could spend *all day* customizing the title bar. Believe me. I speak from experience. (By Matt Welsh) Live - From Virgin Radio U.K. Genesis - No Son Of Mine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: annoying spam filters
From: Chuck MATTSEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Kaplan wrote: I'm looking into a problem my high school reunion chair is having. Apparently most of his e-mails to the class are not making it to classmates with known active e-addresses. Since the e-mail has ~200 names on the To: list, I suspect it's being picked up as spam by some ISP bent on blocking our class reunion. Does anyone know if my hypothesis is reasonable and how one might get around such a filter (other than by sending 200 e-mails)? How about putting all of those addresses currently in the To: list into the Bcc: list, instead? The servers need never know. My ISP's mail server will refuse to deliver messages with more than I think 20 BCCs... so here's another simple possibility: Setup a Yahoo Mailing List, and use that. Asa Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: annoying spam filters
Asa Rossoff wrote: My ISP's mail server will refuse to deliver messages with more than I think 20 BCCs... so here's another simple possibility: Setup a Yahoo Mailing List, and use that. I guess it depends upon the e-mail program and how it handles BCCs ... I'm thinking that Pegasus sent them as individual messages, but I may be wrong. But, you're right, some ISPs would probably end up stopping such a send with either the To: or Bcc: method otherwise. -- Chuck MATTSEN / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mahnomen, MN / RLU #346519 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk 21:00:00 up 2:35, 1 user, load average: 0.30, 0.15, 0.14 Random Thought/Quote for this Message: Silence is evidence of a superb command of the language. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 23 May 2004 11:32 am, Richard McCormick wrote: Hi, I see options for threading messages in KMail but the messages are all un-threaded when I open it up each time. There are options under the View menu but when I select Collapse all Threads nothing happens. :-( Please let me know if there is something I am missing to get this working. Thanks! Richard ;-)~ I'm not sure, but in my KMail, all I have to do is open the menu Folder Threaded message, and all messages in the folder got threaded. But, some messages do get failed to be threaded. I dunno why. - -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux.arinet.org 10:23:59 up 2:16, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAsWtMkp5CsIXuxqURAmIPAJ4mVQrnJGU+Ld35lYGaAgPYmwOK7wCeL9Vi rpFmT9iJby8SQCRH6rgJ9oY= =cSuu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apple ipod and MDK 10.0 O
- Original Message - From: g2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: [newbie] apple ipod and MDK 10.0 O I am trying to get my ipod (original 5 gig first gen) to work with MDK 10.0 O. I am ussing gtkpod 7.0 I am able to READ from the ipod, that is see the files and play them, but I am not able to write to it. When I try to synch gtkpod reports: Could not open iTunesDB /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB for writing. I have an inkiling that the the file /usr/fstab might have something to do with my problem (just a guess). I include the text of the file below, in case that is helpfull. I also tried changing combinations of the user and group of the whole directory recursively using chown, chgrp, and chmod. I couldnt get this to work. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks. Gideon /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda5 /fat32 vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults 0 0 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 I also have yet to get my iPod to work with Linux. GTKPod always crashes, so I've tried GNUPod, but I don't think it works with gen3s. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] aac audio with MDK 10.0 O
On Sunday 23 May 2004 07:46 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 24 May 2004 00:14, g2 wrote: I would like to access and listen to aac files under MDK 10.0 O. I downloaded aacplugin-1.1.4.tar.gz However it answered: configure: error: *** FAAD library (libfaad) not installed - please install first *** I have not been able to locate this file. I have tried searching from rmpDrake (I have set up urpmi with online sources) as well as sourgeforge and freshmeat. Any suggestions? Thanks Gideon Any time you want to know which package a file lives in use urpmf urpmf libfaad You probably need to install libfaad2_0-devel as well as libfaad2_0 derek Thanks derek for the info. Could you provide additional direction? What am I looking at in the urpmf results? libfaad2_0 is the file I am finding out about and the results say this file is in all these diferent packages on my system? So the same file is in all those packages, or all those packages somehow depended on one single copy of the file on my HD? It seems to me like I have lots of faab! The results of urpmf libfaad are below. I am still confused about how to located the missing package. I do believe I have a plf sourse entered in software media manager (urpmi?) my plf entry is: ftp://mandrakeusers.org/pub/PLF/mandrake/10.0 Result of urpmf libfaad: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aacplugin-1.1.4]# urpmf libfaad libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libfaad.a libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libfaad.la libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.a libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.la libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.a libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.la libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libfaad.so.0 libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libfaad.so.0.0.0 libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.so.0 libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.so.0.0.0 libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.so.0 libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.so.0.0.0 libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/faad.h libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/mp4.h libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/mp4ff.h libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/mpeg4ip.h libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/systems.h libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/lib/libfaad.so libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.so libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.so vlc-plugin-faad:/usr/lib/vlc/codec/libfaad_plugin.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] aacplugin-1.1.4]# Thanks so much for your time. You probably didn't figure I was quite THIS confused ! :) Gideon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com