[newbie] modem needs long time to start

2004-05-23 Thread Herman Christiani
Hi, with several versions tried (Mandrake 9.1, 9.2 and 10) the 
external Dynalink modem needs at least 1 minute to initialize.
After this there is no problem to connect, with SuSE and Red Hat the 
initialization was nearly instandly, am I missing something or do I 
have to live with the delay? TIA, Herman


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Re: [newbie] arrrrggggggg

2004-05-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 15:38, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Saturday 22 May 2004 12:36 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  Would you do me a flavor?  In the interests of Science?  To
  test this theory of mine, that this is perhaps germane to the
  video card itself, would you turn on system bios shadowing, but
  leave video shadowing off, and see if your system remains
  stable.  I'm curious.
 
  If in fact you've already tried this, just let me know.
   Otherwise, I'm all ears.
 
  LX
 
 FWIW, video shadowing is generally OK. Enabling further bios 
 shadowing is NOT. 

Not really, Tom, it depends on the individual situation.  I've never had
a problem with bios shadowing under linux and I've been doing it for 12
years professionally in linux systems, both with my systems and with
customer's systems.  System boards that I have had experience with
involving this include Tyan, Asus, Abit, Shuttle, FIC, Young Micro(no
longer in business), MSI, and a bunch of others I can't remember right
now.  Most of the bioses I've encountered have been Award bioses.  I try
to shy away from Phoenix.

As I was saying, Matrox is a special case because it had a wierd bios
that didn't like shadowing.  This was a problem not just under Dos but
apparently also under Winblows and Linux too. I remember this situation
because at one time I was into 2d accelleration back in my Dos gaming
days, and I ran PC Bench alot.  Version 9.

The Matrox would crash the Dos machine when shadowing was enabled. 
Shadowing is always desirable over non-shadowing because accessing the
bios directly is extremely slw.  The Matrox card was different
because it just wouldn't work any other way other than shutting down
shadowing.  ATI was the only other manufacturer that ever produced a
card that acted like that, and that was in the 1990's.

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 15:18, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 13:18, JoeHill wrote:
  ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've used were
  like that.
 
 Absolutely right !
 Thanks !

Nice twist in the right direction, Joe.  :)

LX



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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-23 Thread Steve Mansfield
---
On Sunday 23 May 2004 00:56, Erylon Hines wrote:

| To keep this on topic, Opera 7.5 is an excellent browser with a very
| attractive interface.  The Opera folks did a good job and deserve the
| praise.

Absolutely right - my point is that I like each job to be done by a separate 
app. If you're using one app to act as browser, email client and newsreader 
(not to mention HTML editor, address book etc) then it's harder to adopt 
newer, better single-function apps when they become available. In other 
words, if a whizzy new browser comes along, you either have to find new 
clients to do all the other functions that you were doing with your old 
browser, or carry on using it accepting that you're carrying deadweight.

I like Opera a lot, but I wish they'd produce a 'lite' version which was just 
a browser, the way Mozilla has done with Firebird/Firefox. That said (and 
talking about deadweight) I have Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, Firebird and 
Firefox installed on this machine, because I use them all to check the web 
sites I create!




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Re: [newbie] Dead Laptop

2004-05-23 Thread Asa Rossoff
From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 i have a laptop here that belongs to a friend it is dead no OS
 i do not have a floppy for it  I have set the BIOS to boot off the floppy
 drive. I need tom get mandrake on this box (hey she's cute)
 Laptop is a Toshibatecra 550cdt any way to force it to read the CD?

I'm pretty sure you need to have one boot device or another :)

I take it there is no option in the bios to boot from CD ?

Asa



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Re: [newbie] Dead Laptop

2004-05-23 Thread Aron Smith
On Sunday 23 May 2004 03:51 am, Asa Rossoff wrote:
 From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  i have a laptop here that belongs to a friend it is dead no OS
  i do not have a floppy for it  I have set the BIOS to boot off the floppy
  drive. I need tom get mandrake on this box (hey she's cute)
  Laptop is a Toshibatecra 550cdt any way to force it to read the CD?

 I'm pretty sure you need to have one boot device or another :)

 I take it there is no option in the bios to boot from CD ?
There is and I have reset it ,but I dont think that there is enough left on 
the HD to even allow that.

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Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card

2004-05-23 Thread John
Walt Frampus wrote:
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 18:21, John wrote:
I have just installed nvidia geforce mx 4000 graphics card. 
Installation appeared to go ok using the md10 driver and kernel 
source.I am using the opengl screensavers however and they are now 
moving frame by frame instead of flowing as before. Is 128mb of ram 
not enough or are there other settings to change?  I used the mandrake 
drivers as it was easier for newbie me than installing driver from 
nvidia.com. Thanks in advance for help.
John

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you will need the NVIDIA.com  driver, just make sure you have your
kernel source installed. It is not as hard as you think to install it.
Walt
Hello
The .run file did not find the kernel source file. How would I specify 
the kernel source path? I have tried several of the command options 
listed in the read me text. The nvidia-installer log says that it is 
unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running 
kernel. I am using md10 with kernel 2.6.3-7mdk.
Thanks John


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Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card

2004-05-23 Thread Walt Frampus
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 07:50, John wrote:


 Hello
 The .run file did not find the kernel source file. How would I specify 
 the kernel source path? I have tried several of the command options 
 listed in the read me text. The nvidia-installer log says that it is 
 unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running 
 kernel. I am using md10 with kernel 2.6.3-7mdk.
 Thanks John
 
 
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Have you gone to the PLF easy urpmi site and set it up? 
(http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php) If so, you will be able to
download the kernel source for your kernel through Mandrake control
center. Once installed, hit ctrl-alt-f1, sign on, SU to root, type: init
3, then sh NVIDIA-Linux etc.  At this point it should install the
driver. type init 5 and then ctrl-alt-f7 which will bring you back to
your window manager. Go to mandrake control center and under hardware,
set up your graphics card. log out and restart X or just reboot and it
should load the NVIDIA driver.

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Re: [newbie] undelivered mail notices

2004-05-23 Thread Frank Bax
At 06:51 PM 5/22/04, John wrote:
I am having problems getting through to the list. I keep getting 
undelivered mail notices. I have sent several e-mails to the postmaster at 
mandrax.org but have yet to receive a response. I have posted and had 
replies and then received the notice. Help please
john

I also received a bounced message after my last posting to this list.  On 
closer inspection of the received headers, I realise the bounce did not 
come from this list, but actually came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 
My guess is this email address no longer exists and that this misconfigured 
mailserver bounces messages to the wrong email address.

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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-23 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 23 May 2004 09:05, Steve Mansfield wrote:
SNIP

 I like Opera a lot, but I wish they'd produce a 'lite' version which was
 just a browser, the way Mozilla has done with Firebird/Firefox. That said
 (and talking about deadweight) I have Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, Firebird
 and Firefox installed on this machine, because I use them all to check the
 web sites I create!

Start opera with
opera -nomail
and M2 will not be loaded.

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Re: [newbie] How to fix linmodem for 2.6 kernel

2004-05-23 Thread Katinka Peter
On Sunday 23 May 2004 00:42, murallo wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm an improving newbie - that means I can do most of the things that linux
 deems to be essential like downloading weird libraries and recompiling
 kernels without having to ask too many questions from the helpful folk
 online.
 However I'd appreciate it anyone out there can answer this one. I have an
 internal linmodem (Intel v92ham) which I have installed sucessfully under
 several different linux releases using various 2.4 kernels including this
 one (slackware 9.1 with 2.4.22 kernel) But all attempts to run this modem
 with a 2.6 kernel seem doomed to failure. First the script only allows
 compilation with 2.4 kernels and second I think that 2.6 requires the
 resulting modules to be of type .ko.
 So, can I compile my old sources under 2.6 and convert them to .ko somehow?
 Can I get new sources compatible with 2.6?
 Do I buy a new modem?
 New system is mandrake 10 (from linux format magazine) with 2.6.3 kernel
 K7S5A board with athlon 2000  256 MB memory (onboard sound), GEForce
 FX5200, Dell 18 LCD
 And it all works a treat, except for that dratted modem
 Oh, and the scanner - but that's another story
 Best Regards
 Harry Anderson


I have the same modem, which worked fine under Mandrake 8.2 but doesn` t under 
10.0. I posted to the linmodem list, and have copied the essential parts of 
the thread below. Unfortunately, it doesn` t look very promising... I` m 
using an external modem now. 
I`d be pleased to be informed if anyone finds a better solution.
Kat 



Peter,

kernel compilation will NOT help!!
Winmodem code comes with a pre-compiled component,
that is NOT being updated.  The HaM chipests will NEVER be functional under
Linux 2.6.3 code

MarvS 

Many thanks for letting me know. 
I`ll get by using an external modem until I learn kernel compilation then.

Kat 

On Thursday 29 Apr 2004 16:20, vbm linux wrote:
 Yes,
 Sorry but HaM is not maintained anymore.
 And it is getting harder each day to convince my managers to let me keep
 536ep up to date as well. (everything is about the 537 softmodem now)

 -dorian

 Kat,

 Sadly as expected below
 --
 The 453 code release is also the last for this older chipset (relates
 Intel maintainer Dorian Araneda).
 Thus HaM code failures can be expected under the emerging 2.6.nn
 kernels.
 -
  From our experience with the Lucent DSP modem code, it is  a LOT of
 expect work in even the Open Source
 code component to achieve a 2.4 -  2.6 migration
 I am copying to Dorian Araneda, should he have any further information.

 You will need a 2.6.n supported modem chipset.
 ModemData.txt.2 relates the current options.

 Condolences,

 MarvS


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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-23 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 23 May 2004 03:30:06 -0400
Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following:

   ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've
   used were
   like that.
  
  Absolutely right !
  Thanks !
 
 Nice twist in the right direction, Joe.  :)

Hey, even brainwashed socialist idiots get it right once in awhile...

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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 10:22, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sun, 23 May 2004 03:30:06 -0400
 Lyvim Xaphir disseminated the following:
 
...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors I've
used were
like that.
   
   Absolutely right !
   Thanks !
  
  Nice twist in the right direction, Joe.  :)
 
 Hey, even brainwashed socialist idiots get it right once in awhile...

Don't be so hard on yourself, Joe. ;)

It's the dawn of a new era, hopefully.  A more cerebral one.

LX



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Re: [newbie] Strange Activity

2004-05-23 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 22 May 2004 8:18 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 13:18, JoeHill wrote:
  ...betcha gotta be root to access eth0, most net traffic monitors
  I've used were like that.

 Absolutely right !
 Thanks !

If you're running 2.6 kernel there might be a better way by setting the 
capability bits on the executable. I don't know if the tools are in 
place yet to set it up though.

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Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card

2004-05-23 Thread John
Walt Frampus wrote:
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 07:50, John wrote:

Hello
The .run file did not find the kernel source file. How would I specify 
the kernel source path? I have tried several of the command options 
listed in the read me text. The nvidia-installer log says that it is 
unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running 
kernel. I am using md10 with kernel 2.6.3-7mdk.
Thanks John

__
Have you gone to the PLF easy urpmi site and set it up? 
(http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php) If so, you will be able to
download the kernel source for your kernel through Mandrake control
center. Once installed, hit ctrl-alt-f1, sign on, SU to root, type: init
3, then sh NVIDIA-Linux etc.  At this point it should install the
driver. type init 5 and then ctrl-alt-f7 which will bring you back to
your window manager. Go to mandrake control center and under hardware,
set up your graphics card. log out and restart X or just reboot and it
should load the NVIDIA driver.

Walt
Walt
I had to remove the kernel source that I had installed from the cd's 
and reinstall. After that it was a very short time and everything was 
working great. It has been a learning experience for me and 
frustrating at times. Thanks for your help and thanks to Robin also.
John



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Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card

2004-05-23 Thread Walt Frampus
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 11:12, John wrote:

 
 Walt
 I had to remove the kernel source that I had installed from the cd's 
 and reinstall. After that it was a very short time and everything was 
 working great. It has been a learning experience for me and 
 frustrating at times. Thanks for your help and thanks to Robin also.
 John


If you really want a learning experience, try Gentoo LOL


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Re: [newbie] Opera

2004-05-23 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 23 May 2004 15:51, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Sunday 23 May 2004 09:05, Steve Mansfield wrote:
 SNIP

  I like Opera a lot, but I wish they'd produce a 'lite' version
  which was just a browser, the way Mozilla has done with
  Firebird/Firefox. That said (and talking about deadweight) I
  have Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, Firebird and Firefox installed
  on this machine, because I use them all to check the web sites
  I create!

 Start opera with
 opera -nomail
 and M2 will not be loaded.

 derek

I think it's possible to do that under the
Tools -- Preferences --  Programs and paths
where one can uncheck enable mail and chat

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[newbie] How to format install Mdk10oe on JFFS2?

2004-05-23 Thread David A. Ferguson
How to format  install Mdk10oe on JFFS2?

I would like to put Mdk10 on a small (100MB) IDE flash drive but JFFS2 is
not listed as one of the standard options.  How can I format the drive as
JFFS2 and install Mdk10oe?

I was thinking to along these lines:
  1. Install Mdk in ram disk
  2. Use fdisk/mkfs/et al to format the drive
  3. Reboot/reinstall to the already formated drive

Problem is I don't know how to do step 1, dooh. :)

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[newbie] Option to select eth0 during install?

2004-05-23 Thread David A. Ferguson
Option to select eth0 during install?

Mdk10oe selects the wrong ethernet driver during installation.  I 
install/boot via PXE.  I can get around the problem by adding the expert 
option.  The expert option will let me pick the network driver manually.  
It works but then there are a lot of other questions that I would rather 
not deal with.  

Is there some option syntax that will let me pick the ethernet driver?  

Thanks...David


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[newbie] How to fsck your KDE menus, and fix them in one easy lesson

2004-05-23 Thread Chris
I had this experience yesterday and thought I'd throw out to the list how I 
fixed it to.  Hopefully to save someone else the agony I went through. 

I was adding an item to the KDE menu yesterday when I got interupped.  I had 
already added the submenu.  I came back to the system and closed out 
menudrake, forgetting I had a blank submenu sitting there.  Suddenly 
nothing worked on the panel, my KDE Control Center was empty, and the popup 
menu was missing most everything.  Needless to say I paniced.  I could 
still pull up Mozilla so I went searching the archives for missing menus  
Found the answer update-menus -v however, that kept erroring out.  
Finally after studying the output of update-menus I figured out it was 
telling me there was a blank menu entry that was screwing up everything.  I 
reloaded menudrake from the CLI, removed the entry, reran update-menus and 
everything was back as it was before.  So, lesson learned, if you put in a 
menu entry, never leave it blank.  If you're not going to use it, delete 
it.

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good. After typing cp on his DOS machine at home, he downloaded GNU's
unix tools ported to DOS and installed them. He rm'd, cp'd, and mv'd
happily for many days, and upon finding elvis, he vi'd and was happy. After
a long day at work (on a Unix box) he came home, started editing a file,
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Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI

2004-05-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:43 -0600
Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got Mahjongg 3D working. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly what I did to 
 get it working. I downloaded the 0.92 release from the author's web site (I 

Do you have a link? I figured it might be on sourceforge, so I checked,
and sure enough, it's there, but I could not get the CVS to work,
because I could not determine any module names to check out, and the
directions just say to co modulename.



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[newbie] test

2004-05-23 Thread John Drouhard
Accidentally deleted all my procmail configuration files. Testing to see
if I got 'em back correctly or not.


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Re: [newbie] How to fsck your KDE menus, and fix them in one easy lesson

2004-05-23 Thread Ayoub890
Hi Chris,
If you feel this is a KDE bug then it may be a good idea to report it to 
KDE bugzilla.

Chris wrote:
I had this experience yesterday and thought I'd throw out to the list how I 
fixed it to.  Hopefully to save someone else the agony I went through. 

 

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Re: [newbie] MP3 Burning

2004-05-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Fri, 21 May 2004 21:08:20 +0100
Drew Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
 I have just got a CD/MP3 Disc player for the  car.What I
 would 
 like to know is if I burn a MP3 CD,using 3KB or some other burning
 tool,would 

It should play fine. I've been doing this sometime for my portable Sony
Walkman. FWIW, these things are great, they play CDs full of mp3s as
well as regular CDs. Add a foursome of rechargeable batteries and you're
all set. It gave me a boatload of listening options back last September
when I took the train trip to Portland (about 14 hours). And I still
carry it around for commuting because I have a longish bus commute to
work every day.

 The player i have supports ISO9660 level 1 or level 2
 format,or 
 Joliet or Romeo in the expansion format(whatever this means).

That really has to do with the filenames. On my portable, the names of
the songs show up, but not on my set-top DVD player (which also plays
mp3s). I normally use gcombust for burning these things.

I believe that Linux burning programs will use ISO9660 when
I burn 
 the disc,am I right.

Right. iso9660 is the cdrom filesystem standard. Basically you just put
all the mp3s you want to burn in a subdirectory, and then issue 'mkisofs
-o cdimage list of files' which builds an iso9660 image with those
files. There are some options which enable Rockridge / Joliet /
whatever.




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Re: [newbie] MP3 Burning

2004-05-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Sat, 22 May 2004 19:14:28 -0500
Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 format.  I have found a Windows program that will create them, but I 
 would like to know how to make them using Linux software.

Which portable? I think you may find that mp3 cd format is just an
iso9660 with a bunch of mp3 files stored. See my other post. If by any
chance you've got a Sony player, I've been happily making and playing
mp3 disks for it for nearly a year. 

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Re: [newbie] How to fsck your KDE menus, and fix them in one easy lesson

2004-05-23 Thread robin
Chris wrote:
I had this experience yesterday and thought I'd throw out to the list how I 
fixed it to.  Hopefully to save someone else the agony I went through. 

I was adding an item to the KDE menu yesterday when I got interupped.  I had 
already added the submenu.  I came back to the system and closed out 
menudrake, forgetting I had a blank submenu sitting there.  Suddenly 
nothing worked on the panel, my KDE Control Center was empty, and the popup 
menu was missing most everything.  Needless to say I paniced.  I could 
still pull up Mozilla so I went searching the archives for missing menus  
Found the answer update-menus -v however, that kept erroring out.  
Finally after studying the output of update-menus I figured out it was 
telling me there was a blank menu entry that was screwing up everything.  I 
reloaded menudrake from the CLI, removed the entry, reran update-menus and 
everything was back as it was before.  So, lesson learned, if you put in a 
menu entry, never leave it blank.  If you're not going to use it, delete 
it.
Thanks for the tip. How about adding it to the wiki?
Sir Robin
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Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)

2004-05-23 Thread Frans Ketelaars
Dexter N Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all

You have hijacked a thread, see: 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette 
please :)

   I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577
Motherboard.  This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works
fine under the pre-loaded XP.  I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake
(10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two...

   Firstly, the drivers themselves.  Configure your computer says the
hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages).  I've
tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better
success than the default (snd_intel 8x0).  The diagnostic procedures
tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the
results are cryptic:
   chkconfig --list sound  reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or 
on.
   chkconfig --list alsa does the same.  What do these mean?

See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a 
service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the 
diagnostic procedures is always a good idea.

   Nextly, the mixer.  I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix.  The
help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green 
buttons
(above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me?  Also, I 
can
see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the 
stereo
one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out?  Yes,
I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one
snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's
really a mono one.

Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0. Alsamixer 
has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise 
the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'.

Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play?

   Has anyone any pointers here?

Hopefully...
Dex

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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?

2004-05-23 Thread David E. Fox
On Fri, 14 May 2004 09:14:18 -0400
lake-wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 That's very good advice, but for those that don't have the spare cash in their 
 budget to join the club, you can download the i586 directory tree, create 

Why not get the CE ISO's as many have done, and then urpmi them up to final update
status?


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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?

2004-05-23 Thread robin
David E. Fox wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004 09:14:18 -0400
lake-wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

That's very good advice, but for those that don't have the spare cash in their 
budget to join the club, you can download the i586 directory tree, create 

Why not get the CE ISO's as many have done, and then urpmi them up to final update
status?
I did that on my office machine, which has an ethernet connection, but I 
wouldn't want to try that at home with a modem connection!

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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?

2004-05-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 06:45, robin wrote:
 David E. Fox wrote:
  On Fri, 14 May 2004 09:14:18 -0400
  lake-wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
  
 That's very good advice, but for those that don't have the spare cash in their 
 budget to join the club, you can download the i586 directory tree, create 
  
  
  Why not get the CE ISO's as many have done, and then urpmi them up to final update
  status?
 
 I did that on my office machine, which has an ethernet connection, but I 
 wouldn't want to try that at home with a modem connection!
 
 Sir Robin

soapbox

That is becoming something of an issue with me personally. Everyone else
appears to be of the mindset that everyone else has a broadband
connection and that they can happily urpmi everything to do this that
and the other thing - which is not entirely true. Doing large scale
updates is entirely out of the question for me unless I can do an
upgrade or complete install from already created CD's. Really does tend
to raise my ire.

Aside from that, after many weeks of watching the MDK 10 issues and
quirks, I'm resolved to sit and wait (as I always do) for a non whole
number version. Every distro, every version that has been of a whole
number has been, in my eyes, a testing ground and the .1 or .2
version has been the better bet.

I've tested 10CE - played around with it enough to see that it's not
going to be anything I can upgrade to or anything that I can install
on my working box without heaps of headache, heaps of hacking, and heaps
of change. And I'm certainly NOT going to get rid of my trusty linmodem
just to get by.

Mind you, I'd really like to have MDK 10+, but I fear it's going to be
some time off - same as I waited for MDK 9.1 - which after I HAD waited,
it was worth the wait in the end.

I'm not trying to deter anyone from anything - I'm venting here. But
bear in mind I'm also stating something that most of y'all oldies will
already know.

I'm also just mad as a wet hen that everyone seems to think that most of
the world is capable of having broadband...ahem.

/soapbox

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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?

2004-05-23 Thread PM
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 23:56, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 soapbox
 
 That is becoming something of an issue with me personally. Everyone else
 appears to be of the mindset that everyone else has a broadband
 connection and that they can happily urpmi everything to do this that
 and the other thing - which is not entirely true. Doing large scale
 updates is entirely out of the question for me unless I can do an
 upgrade or complete install from already created CD's. Really does tend
 to raise my ire.
 
 Aside from that, after many weeks of watching the MDK 10 issues and
 quirks, I'm resolved to sit and wait (as I always do) for a non whole
 number version. Every distro, every version that has been of a whole
 number has been, in my eyes, a testing ground and the .1 or .2
 version has been the better bet.
 
 I've tested 10CE - played around with it enough to see that it's not
 going to be anything I can upgrade to or anything that I can install
 on my working box without heaps of headache, heaps of hacking, and heaps
 of change. And I'm certainly NOT going to get rid of my trusty linmodem
 just to get by.
 
 Mind you, I'd really like to have MDK 10+, but I fear it's going to be
 some time off - same as I waited for MDK 9.1 - which after I HAD waited,
 it was worth the wait in the end.
 
 I'm not trying to deter anyone from anything - I'm venting here. But
 bear in mind I'm also stating something that most of y'all oldies will
 already know.
 
 I'm also just mad as a wet hen that everyone seems to think that most of
 the world is capable of having broadband...ahem.
 
 /soapbox
 
 stephen kuhn - owner


Makes sense to me - the old saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
certainly applies.

Another advantage of Linux over another operating system.

BTW, moved here to Cyprus 2 years ago  do have broadband (after a
fashion - have to log on via an Active-X page), still can't get it where
I used to live the the much more technologically advanced UK.


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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?

2004-05-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, PM wrote:

 Makes sense to me - the old saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
 certainly applies.
 
 Another advantage of Linux over another operating system.
 
 BTW, moved here to Cyprus 2 years ago  do have broadband (after a
 fashion - have to log on via an Active-X page), still can't get it where
 I used to live the the much more technologically advanced UK.

Technologically Advanced UK is an oxymoron.

Now Turkey, OTOH...

(And actually, Australia is rather amazing in most areas - we have
wireless, ADSL, cable - just a matter of saving up the right amount of
dollars to get my unlimited - yes - unlimited 512/256 connection going -
along with a modem/router/vpn router)

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[newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??

2004-05-23 Thread Richard McCormick
Hi,

I see options for threading messages in KMail but the messages are all
un-threaded when I open it up each time.  There are options under the View
menu but when I select Collapse all Threads nothing happens.  :-(

Please let me know if there is something I am missing to get this working. 

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?

2004-05-23 Thread PM
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 00:17, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:08, PM wrote:
 
  Makes sense to me - the old saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
  certainly applies.
  
  Another advantage of Linux over another operating system.
  
  BTW, moved here to Cyprus 2 years ago  do have broadband (after a
  fashion - have to log on via an Active-X page), still can't get it where
  I used to live the the much more technologically advanced UK.
 
 Technologically Advanced UK is an oxymoron.
 
 Now Turkey, OTOH...
 
 (And actually, Australia is rather amazing in most areas - we have
 wireless, ADSL, cable - just a matter of saving up the right amount of
 dollars to get my unlimited - yes - unlimited 512/256 connection going -
 along with a modem/router/vpn router)
 
 stephen kuhn - owner


Sorry,

I should have put some kind of sarcastic warning about Technologically
Advanced UK, forgot We're a multi-national group.


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Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??

2004-05-23 Thread Margot
Richard McCormick wrote:
Hi,
I see options for threading messages in KMail but the messages are all
un-threaded when I open it up each time.  There are options under the View
menu but when I select Collapse all Threads nothing happens.  :-(
Please let me know if there is something I am missing to get this working. 

Thanks!
Richard ;-)~
I use Mozilla not Kmail, so I can't tell you where to find the 
appropriate option, but I can tell you that Collapse all Threads 
won't work unless you are already viewing the messages as threaded!

The Collapse option simply shows you a short list of all the 
*first* messages in each thread, with some sort of marker beside it 
to indicate that there are more messages in the thread - you can 
then expand the thread to see the whole list.

I suggest you try to find an option that turns on threading in the 
first place (in Mozilla it is View = Messages = Threaded), then 
experiment with expand/collapse.

Hope this is of some help!
Margot
PS before you get shouted at by list-Nazis, I suggest you turn off 
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Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??

2004-05-23 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 23 May 2004 12:32 am, Richard McCormick wrote:
 Hi,

 I see options for threading messages in KMail but the messages are all
 un-threaded when I open it up each time.  There are options under the View
 menu but when I select Collapse all Threads nothing happens.  :-(

Under the Folder menu option, choose Thread Messages and it should stay that 
way for each folder.

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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?

2004-05-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:48, PM wrote:

 Sorry,
 
 I should have put some kind of sarcastic warning about Technologically
 Advanced UK, forgot We're a multi-national group.

That's alright - having lived DownUnder for the past four years, I've
become quite adept at understanding any reference to technology and
Britain is meant sarcastically.

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blues, from my head down to my shoes, Carefree Highway, let me slip
away, slip away, on you... Turning back the pages to the times I love
best, I wonder if she'll ever do the same, Now the thing that I call
livin' is just bein' satisfied, With knowing I got noone left to blame.
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Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??

2004-05-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 08:03, Margot wrote:

 PS before you get shouted at by list-Nazis, I suggest you turn off 
 your reply-to setting so the replies go to the list and not just to you.

Is that a polite reference to JoeHill?

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Re: [newbie] arrrrggggggg

2004-05-23 Thread The Other
On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:46:34 -0400, Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

-When the System Resources screen comes up during the Install, go to
-the Printer Section and make sure you do a Print Test Page.
This works, but if I remember correctly it does take up an additional 
IRQ. One
of the reasons I went to an Epson USB printer...
If memory serves, IRQ 7 is typically used in PC systems for the printer.  
I think my old, unused, ISA Sound Blaster AWE32 would allow you to select 
IRQ 7, but I can't remember any other cards I've used allowing me that 
option.

From what I've been reading on the Linux Audio Users Group, IRQ 10 is a 
much better choice for a sound card.  IRQ 7 has the lowest priority of all 
of the IRQ's.  Here's the order of interrupt priority, from Highest 
Priority to Lowest Priority:

(highest) 0, 1, 8, 9, 10, 11 12, 13, 14, 15, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (lowest)
So using a printer on IRQ 7 seems quite reasonable to me.  What else would 
one use it for?

Note:  0 and 1 are for block devices, 8 is for the Real Time Clock.  9 is 
the first IRQ you could try for, but it's sometimes used as a redirected 
IRQ 2; so I leave it alone.  IRQ 10 is really the first high priority IRQ 
you can expect to get exclusive access to.

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Re: [newbie] test

2004-05-23 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 23 May 2004 01:39 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 Accidentally deleted all my procmail configuration files. Testing to see
 if I got 'em back correctly or not.

Honest, I don't have them.
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[newbie] aac audio with MDK 10.0 O

2004-05-23 Thread g2
I would like to access and listen to aac files under MDK 10.0 O.
I downloaded 
aacplugin-1.1.4.tar.gz
However it answered:

configure: error: *** FAAD library (libfaad) not installed - please install 
first ***

I have not been able to locate this file.  I have tried searching from 
rmpDrake (I have set up urpmi with online sources) as well as sourgeforge and 
freshmeat.

Any suggestions?
Thanks
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[newbie] apple ipod and MDK 10.0 O

2004-05-23 Thread g2
I am trying to get my ipod (original 5 gig first gen) to work with MDK 10.0 O.
I am ussing gtkpod 7.0
I am able to READ from the ipod, that is see the files and play them, but I am 
not able to write to it.

When I try to synch gtkpod reports:
Could not open iTunesDB /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB for writing.

I have an inkiling that the the file /usr/fstab
might have something to do with my problem (just a guess).
I include the text of the file below, in case that is helpfull.

I also tried changing combinations of the user and group of the whole 
directory recursively using chown, chgrp, and chmod.
I couldnt get this to work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Thanks.
Gideon


/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda5 /fat32 vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults 0 0
/dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat defaults 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2
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[newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)

2004-05-23 Thread Dexter N Muir
Re-posting... sorry I hijacked a thread.

   I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577
Motherboard.  This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works
fine under the pre-loaded XP.  I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake
(10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two...
 
   Firstly, the drivers themselves.  Configure your computer says the
hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages).  I've
tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better
success than the default (snd_intel 8x0).  The diagnostic procedures
tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the
results are cryptic:
   chkconfig --list sound  reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or
on.
   chkconfig --list alsa does the same.  What do these mean?

Frans Ketelaars replied:
See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a
service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the
diagnostic procedures is always a good idea.
 
   Nextly, the mixer.  I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix.  The
help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons
(above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me?  Also, I can
see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo
one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out?  Yes,
I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one
snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's
really a mono one.
 
Frans replied:
 Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0.
Alsamixer
 has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise
 the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'.
 
 Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play?
 

   To continue the saga:

   I tried alsamixer, but with no more success in terms of sound output,
and though it explained the red and green buttons in Kmix it raised a
few points in itself.

   Kmix (bottom right corner) shows I am controlling Intel 82801DB-ICH4.
I presume this is correct for the AC'97 as embedded on the mobo.  The
MCC (under Hardware/Hardware) says the Soundcard is ICH4 845G/GL Chipset
AC'97 Audio Controller, and Module is snd-intel8x0.
   The green buttons are muted when dim, and un-muted when bright, i.e
enabled.
   The red buttons are capture selected when bright.

   alsamixer says Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4, and Chip: Realtek ALC202 rev
0.  The onboard LAN is a Realtek RTL8139 - is this part of the same
chip?  I'm having troubles with that too...
   man alsamixer says Spacebar toggles Capture mode on a valid input,
adding or removing it from the capture sources.  Its behaviour belies
this: it selects that channel for capture, removing all other inputs
from capture sources.  Having found this, I noted that Kmix seems to
allow multiple sources fro capture, though the red buttons will not
clear immediately after being selected: another source has to be toggled
in between. Strange...

   With a CD in the drive, and the CD player indicating that it is there
and playing a track, and with the mixer (either alsamixer or Kmix)
showing CD selected and volume high (80%+), there is still no sound out.

#chkconfig --list sound 
sound0:off  1:off  2:on  3:on  4:on  5:on  6:off
#chkconfig --list alsa
alsa 0:off  1:off  2:on  3:on  4:on  5:on  6:off
#runlevel
N 5


Any takers? :-)

Hopefully...
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Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)

2004-05-23 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 23 May 2004 06:27 pm, Dexter N Muir wrote:
 Re-posting... sorry I hijacked a thread.

I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577
 Motherboard.  This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works
 fine under the pre-loaded XP.  I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake
 (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two...

Firstly, the drivers themselves.  Configure your computer says the
 hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages).  I've
 tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better
 success than the default (snd_intel 8x0).  The diagnostic procedures
 tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the
 results are cryptic:
chkconfig --list sound  reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or
 on.
chkconfig --list alsa does the same.  What do these mean?

 Frans Ketelaars replied:
 See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a
 service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the
 diagnostic procedures is always a good idea.

Nextly, the mixer.  I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix.  The
 help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons
 (above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me?  Also, I can
 see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo
 one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out?  Yes,
 I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one
 snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's
 really a mono one.

 Frans replied:
  Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0.

 Alsamixer

  has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise
  the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'.
 
  Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play?

To continue the saga:

I tried alsamixer, but with no more success in terms of sound output,
 and though it explained the red and green buttons in Kmix it raised a
 few points in itself.

Kmix (bottom right corner) shows I am controlling Intel 82801DB-ICH4.
 I presume this is correct for the AC'97 as embedded on the mobo.  The
 MCC (under Hardware/Hardware) says the Soundcard is ICH4 845G/GL Chipset
 AC'97 Audio Controller, and Module is snd-intel8x0.
The green buttons are muted when dim, and un-muted when bright, i.e
 enabled.
The red buttons are capture selected when bright.

alsamixer says Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4, and Chip: Realtek ALC202 rev
 0.  The onboard LAN is a Realtek RTL8139 - is this part of the same
 chip?  I'm having troubles with that too...
man alsamixer says Spacebar toggles Capture mode on a valid input,
 adding or removing it from the capture sources.  Its behaviour belies
 this: it selects that channel for capture, removing all other inputs
 from capture sources.  Having found this, I noted that Kmix seems to
 allow multiple sources fro capture, though the red buttons will not
 clear immediately after being selected: another source has to be toggled
 in between. Strange...

With a CD in the drive, and the CD player indicating that it is there
 and playing a track, and with the mixer (either alsamixer or Kmix)
 showing CD selected and volume high (80%+), there is still no sound out.

 #chkconfig --list sound
 sound0:off  1:off  2:on  3:on  4:on  5:on  6:off
 #chkconfig --list alsa
 alsa 0:off  1:off  2:on  3:on  4:on  5:on  6:off
 #runlevel
 N 5


 Any takers? :-)

 Hopefully...
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Re: [newbie] aac audio with MDK 10.0 O

2004-05-23 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 24 May 2004 00:14, g2 wrote:
 I would like to access and listen to aac files under MDK 10.0 O.
 I downloaded
 aacplugin-1.1.4.tar.gz
 However it answered:

 configure: error: *** FAAD library (libfaad) not installed - please install
 first ***

 I have not been able to locate this file.  I have tried searching from
 rmpDrake (I have set up urpmi with online sources) as well as sourgeforge
 and freshmeat.

 Any suggestions?
 Thanks
 Gideon


Any time you want to know which package a file lives in use urpmf

urpmf libfaad

You probably need to install libfaad2_0-devel as well as
libfaad2_0

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Re: [newbie] aac audio with MDK 10.0 O

2004-05-23 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 24 May 2004 00:46, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Monday 24 May 2004 00:14, g2 wrote:
  I would like to access and listen to aac files under MDK 10.0 O.
  I downloaded
  aacplugin-1.1.4.tar.gz
  However it answered:
 
  configure: error: *** FAAD library (libfaad) not installed - please
  install first ***
 
  I have not been able to locate this file.  I have tried searching from
  rmpDrake (I have set up urpmi with online sources) as well as sourgeforge
  and freshmeat.
 
  Any suggestions?
  Thanks
  Gideon

 Any time you want to know which package a file lives in use urpmf

 urpmf libfaad

 You probably need to install libfaad2_0-devel as well as
 libfaad2_0

 derek

BTW: faad2 and libfaad2_0 are in the 'plf' online source.

derek

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Re: [newbie] MDK 10 Official, when?

2004-05-23 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 23 May 2004 04:56 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

 snip

 soapbox

 That is becoming something of an issue with me personally. Everyone else
 appears to be of the mindset that everyone else has a broadband
 connection and that they can happily urpmi everything to do this that
 and the other thing - which is not entirely true. Doing large scale
 updates is entirely out of the question for me unless I can do an
 upgrade or complete install from already created CD's. Really does tend
 to raise my ire.

Excellent point. One way around the dilemma that works here is to order update 
CD's from Cheapbytes. (Quick, efficient, up-to-date and inexpensive.) Is 
there anything like their service available in Australia?

 Aside from that, after many weeks of watching the MDK 10 issues and
 quirks, I'm resolved to sit and wait (as I always do) for a non whole
 number version. Every distro, every version that has been of a whole
 number has been, in my eyes, a testing ground and the .1 or .2
 version has been the better bet.

My experience is somewhat different than yours. The only version that never 
did work right for me was 7.2 (in retrospect, those problems were likely due 
to my own shortcomings compounded by the limitations of the hardware I had at 
the time). 9.2 wasn't any bargain, either -- lots and lots of updates were 
required. Luckily, a kind soul on the list took pity on me and mailed me an 
update CD -- even more current than the cheapbytes version. Even a slow CDROM 
is faster than any broadband connection.

 I've tested 10CE - played around with it enough to see that it's not
 going to be anything I can upgrade to or anything that I can install
 on my working box without heaps of headache, heaps of hacking, and heaps
 of change. And I'm certainly NOT going to get rid of my trusty linmodem
 just to get by.

Ain't no such thing as a trusty winmodem. Too much fiddling about, and too 
dependent on driver support. External serial modems don't need no stinking 
drivers. Elsewhere on this list there is a message from some guy who has 
found out not only that his particular trusty winmodem is not supported in 
the 2.6 kernels, but there is no plan to create such support. Some folks 
might consider that to be one hell of a learning opportunity. I don't. Yeah, 
he could run 10.0 with a 2.4 kernel, but isn't the new kernel the main point 
of 10.0?

 Mind you, I'd really like to have MDK 10+, but I fear it's going to be
 some time off - same as I waited for MDK 9.1 - which after I HAD waited,
 it was worth the wait in the end.

 I'm not trying to deter anyone from anything - I'm venting here. But
 bear in mind I'm also stating something that most of y'all oldies will
 already know.

 I'm also just mad as a wet hen that everyone seems to think that most of
 the world is capable of having broadband...ahem.

 /soapbox

 stephen kuhn - owner

Thanks for the use of your soapbox.
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Re: [newbie] Dead Laptop

2004-05-23 Thread Asa Rossoff
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 On Sunday 23 May 2004 03:51 am, Asa Rossoff wrote:
  From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   i have a laptop here that belongs to a friend it is dead no OS
   i do not have a floppy for it  I have set the BIOS to boot off the
floppy
   drive. I need tom get mandrake on this box (hey she's cute)
   Laptop is a Toshibatecra 550cdt any way to force it to read the CD?
 
  I'm pretty sure you need to have one boot device or another :)
 
  I take it there is no option in the bios to boot from CD ?
 There is and I have reset it ,but I dont think that there is enough left
on
 the HD to even allow that.

I wouldn't think the contents of the harddrive would matter.  Some older
cd-rom drives don't read all CD-R's well, though... I think particularly the
bluish ones.  If you have a commercially produced bootable cd-rom of any
kind, you could try that, and determine if it's just not reading the
Mandrake CD.

If you have access to another comperable laptop, you could swap the
harddrive into that one and install from there, or at least install a boot
manager such as Smart Boot Manager to the MBR on the drive, which can boot
the CD-Rom.

Asa



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[newbie] OT: annoying spam filters

2004-05-23 Thread Paul Kaplan
I'm looking into a problem my high school reunion chair is having.   
Apparently most of his e-mails to the class are not making it to classmates 
with known active e-addresses.  Since the e-mail has ~200 names on the To: 
list, I suspect it's being picked up as spam by some ISP bent on blocking our 
class reunion.

Does anyone know if my hypothesis is reasonable and how one might get around 
such a filter (other than by sending 200 e-mails)?
TIA
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Re: [newbie] How to fsck your KDE menus, and fix them in one easy lesson

2004-05-23 Thread Chris
On Sunday 23 May 2004 01:19 pm, Ayoub890 wrote:
 Hi Chris,
 If you feel this is a KDE bug then it may be a good idea to report it to
 KDE bugzilla.

 Chris wrote:
 I had this experience yesterday and thought I'd throw out to the list
  how I fixed it to.  Hopefully to save someone else the agony I went
  through.

 [Deleted]

Think the only bug was my case of forgetfullness in deleting an empty menu 
item.

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Re: [newbie] OT: annoying spam filters

2004-05-23 Thread Asa Rossoff
From: Chuck MATTSEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul Kaplan wrote:
  I'm looking into a problem my high school reunion chair is having.
  Apparently most of his e-mails to the class are not making it to
classmates
  with known active e-addresses.  Since the e-mail has ~200 names on the
To:
  list, I suspect it's being picked up as spam by some ISP bent on
blocking our
  class reunion.
 
  Does anyone know if my hypothesis is reasonable and how one might get
around
  such a filter (other than by sending 200 e-mails)?

 How about putting all of those addresses currently in the To: list
 into the Bcc: list, instead?

 The servers need never know.

My ISP's mail server will refuse to deliver messages with more than I think
20 BCCs...
so here's another simple possibility:  Setup a Yahoo Mailing List, and use
that.

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Re: [newbie] OT: annoying spam filters

2004-05-23 Thread Chuck MATTSEN
Asa Rossoff wrote:
My ISP's mail server will refuse to deliver messages with more than I think
20 BCCs...
so here's another simple possibility:  Setup a Yahoo Mailing List, and use
that.
I guess it depends upon the e-mail program and how it handles BCCs ... 
I'm thinking that Pegasus sent them as individual messages, but I may 
be wrong.  But, you're right, some ISPs would probably end up stopping 
such a send with either the To: or Bcc: method otherwise.

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Re: [newbie] Threaded messages in KMail??

2004-05-23 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Sunday 23 May 2004 11:32 am, Richard McCormick wrote:
 Hi,

 I see options for threading messages in KMail but the messages are all
 un-threaded when I open it up each time.  There are options under the View
 menu but when I select Collapse all Threads nothing happens.  :-(

 Please let me know if there is something I am missing to get this working.

 Thanks!

 Richard ;-)~

I'm not sure, but in my KMail, all I have to do is open the menu Folder  
Threaded message, and all messages in the folder got threaded.

But, some messages do get failed to be threaded. I dunno why.

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Re: [newbie] apple ipod and MDK 10.0 O

2004-05-23 Thread Marc Resnick

- Original Message - 
From: g2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 7:24 PM
Subject: [newbie] apple ipod and MDK 10.0 O


 I am trying to get my ipod (original 5 gig first gen) to work with MDK
10.0 O.
 I am ussing gtkpod 7.0
 I am able to READ from the ipod, that is see the files and play them, but
I am
 not able to write to it.

 When I try to synch gtkpod reports:
 Could not open iTunesDB /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB for
writing.

 I have an inkiling that the the file /usr/fstab
 might have something to do with my problem (just a guess).
 I include the text of the file below, in case that is helpfull.

 I also tried changing combinations of the user and group of the whole
 directory recursively using chown, chgrp, and chmod.
 I couldnt get this to work.

 Any suggestions would be appreciated!

 Thanks.
 Gideon


 /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
 /dev/hda5 /fat32 vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
 none /mnt/cdrom supermount
 dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults 0 0
 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat defaults 0 0
 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults 0 0
 none /proc proc defaults 0 0
 /dev/hda8 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0



I also have yet to get my iPod to work with Linux. GTKPod always crashes, so
I've tried GNUPod, but I don't think it works with gen3s.






 
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Re: [newbie] aac audio with MDK 10.0 O

2004-05-23 Thread g2
On Sunday 23 May 2004 07:46 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Monday 24 May 2004 00:14, g2 wrote:
  I would like to access and listen to aac files under MDK 10.0 O.
  I downloaded
  aacplugin-1.1.4.tar.gz
  However it answered:
 
  configure: error: *** FAAD library (libfaad) not installed - please
  install first ***
 
  I have not been able to locate this file.  I have tried searching from
  rmpDrake (I have set up urpmi with online sources) as well as sourgeforge
  and freshmeat.
 
  Any suggestions?
  Thanks
  Gideon

 Any time you want to know which package a file lives in use urpmf

 urpmf libfaad

 You probably need to install libfaad2_0-devel as well as
 libfaad2_0

 derek

Thanks derek for the info.
Could you provide additional direction?
What am I looking at in the urpmf results?   libfaad2_0 is the file I am 
finding out about and the results say this file is in all these diferent 
packages on my system?  So the same file is in all those packages, or all 
those packages somehow depended on one single copy of the file on my HD?
It seems to me like I have lots of faab!
The results of urpmf libfaad are below.
I am still confused about how to located the missing package.
I do believe I have a plf sourse entered in software media manager (urpmi?)
my plf entry is:
ftp://mandrakeusers.org/pub/PLF/mandrake/10.0

Result of urpmf libfaad:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] aacplugin-1.1.4]# urpmf libfaad
libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libfaad.a
libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libfaad.la
libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.a
libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.la
libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.a
libfaad2_0-static-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.la
libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libfaad.so.0
libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libfaad.so.0.0.0
libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.so.0
libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.so.0.0.0
libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.so.0
libfaad2_0:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.so.0.0.0
libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/faad.h
libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/mp4.h
libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/mp4ff.h
libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/mpeg4ip.h
libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/include/systems.h
libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/lib/libfaad.so
libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4ff.so
libfaad2_0-devel:/usr/lib/libmp4v2.so
vlc-plugin-faad:/usr/lib/vlc/codec/libfaad_plugin.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] aacplugin-1.1.4]#

Thanks so much for your time.
You probably didn't figure I was quite THIS confused ! :)

Gideon


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