[newbie] p2p
-- hi all is there any software i can use to dwnload music that works on linux.use to use filetopia but looks to confusing for linux Many Thanks To All Who Reply Best Wishes Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Audigy 2 not recognized 10.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 22:37, Rick Kunath wrote: I'm hoping someone can point me to some ideas on the sound issues I am having. This is a fresh MDK 10.1 install. The soundcard is an Audigy 2 Value card, and works correctly on Windows 2k (this is a dual-boot machine.) The motherboard (DFI PM12-TL) also has an integrated AC97 sound card (VIA chipset drivers), but I have it disabled in BIOS. The BIOS is set to non plug-and-play OS. Lsmod does not show any sound modules loading, so I am guessing MDK didn't load them, thinking with no sound card, they wouldn't be needed? On a hardware scan from MCC, I get this output? Identification Vendor: (null) Description: Media class: MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO Connection Bus: PCI Bus PCI #: 0 PCI device #: 10 PCI function #: 0 Vendor ID: 4354 Device ID: 8 Sub vendor ID: 4354 Sub device ID: 097 Driver Module: unknown I am wondering what steps I might take to get the card recognized? I Googled aplenty and the card seems to be a supported card (that's why I bought it), but does not get recognized. I don't know if having the motherboard sound card disabled is contributing to the issue or not, but when I enabled it, it did not appear in the hardware list either (the previous output was the same), and the only effect was a failed indication when the new hardware test scrolled across the screen during boot up. I've installed a lot of soundcards in Mandrake Linux, and have had a few issues over the years, but this one has me stumped. Ideas and thoughts will be greatly appreciated. The problem with Creative cards is that they sell cards with one model name but several possible chipsets. You think you are getting the same card, but you are not. I've been bitten by that one too. The only thing I can suggest is to try Mandrake Control Center Hardware Hardware then select the unrecognised card and attempt to run a manually installed driver (Run Config Tool Let me pick any driver). There is an Audigy driver, snd-emu10k1 and emu10k1. The first two are alsa drivers, I believe, and the last one an OSS driver. If none of them work you are probably stumped. There is a troubleshooting section, but it won't help you until you get the card recognised. BTW - you were right the first time - disable the on-board soundcard. If you can't get the audigy working, though, you may have to take it out and try the onboard sound. I always disabled them until recently, but they are not bad these days. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/eu6kFAvMr/nNX8RAgZaAJ9jA2dM1OhifPZReorctWnqSISlGQCglPrl LydmywpJQzmYuBULmrtdzt0= =R1QC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] p2p
I use Overnet which comes in a command line version and a GUI version (which requires the command line as well) and I have it working with Mandrake (http://www.edonkey2000.com/) On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 19:19, Dave Needham wrote: -- hi all is there any software i can use to dwnload music that works on linux.use to use filetopia but looks to confusing for linux Many Thanks To All Who Reply Best Wishes Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] p2p
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:19:16 +, Dave Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any software i can use to dwnload music that works on linux.use to use filetopia but looks to confusing for linux Apollon seems to be what you are looking for: http://apollon.sourceforge.net/ Regards, Paul PS: Since I am a GMail user, please be sure that you reply to the list. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] p2p
On Mon January 31 2005 12:19 am, Dave Needham wrote: hi all is there any software i can use to dwnload music that works on linux.use to use filetopia but looks to confusing for linux There are many. I have used Gtk-Gnutella with good results. There are mdk rpms available at web site. http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: installation problem
Cyber Killer wrote: Elwyn wrote: The later versions might have new drivers that are causing problems. When I've been trying to sort these little problems out with PCs I try changing the hardware around just in case... OK I'll try, but, I've always been using XFree4 and never had any problems :-P I'll say how it came out in a couple of days OK, I switched the gfx cards (I borrowed a GF4 Ti from a friend) and guess what? It didn't work :-( Replacing all my hardware one by one is a way of getting to the problem, but I was hoping that someone may have a better solution. Even if I'd find the part that is causing the problem this way, replacing it is out of the question right now (ca$h problems ;-P ). Anyone has any other ideas? -- Cyber Killer mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tlen.pl: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gg: 2935777 yahoo: cyber_killer4 When the last tree is cut, the last river poisoned, and the last fish dead, we will discover that we can't eat money. www.greenpeace.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On Monday 31 Jan 2005 00:00, JoeHill wrote: Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never* set an out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list? Many thanks! I rang their contact number this morning, they can't switch it off as it is company policy to have this switched on and they cannot touch his mail system. If it's getting a problem then you can either bounce back, perhaps to the admin. Ignore it until he gets back or get the admin here to disable his mail. Cheers, Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: installation problem
On Monday 31 Jan 2005 08:20, Cyber Killer wrote: Cyber Killer wrote: Elwyn wrote: The later versions might have new drivers that are causing problems. When I've been trying to sort these little problems out with PCs I try changing the hardware around just in case... OK I'll try, but, I've always been using XFree4 and never had any problems :-P I'll say how it came out in a couple of days OK, I switched the gfx cards (I borrowed a GF4 Ti from a friend) and guess what? It didn't work :-( Oh dear. The B word springs to mind. At least you tried it... Replacing all my hardware one by one is a way of getting to the problem, but I was hoping that someone may have a better solution. Even if I'd find the part that is causing the problem this way, replacing it is out of the question right now (ca$h problems ;-P ). Anyone has any other ideas? Sorry, not at this time. Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] installation problem
On Sunday 23 Jan 2005 16:35, Cyber Killer wrote: I see that my post got lost in the discussion, so here goes again... I got the 10.1 official download dvd. Everything burned OK. I boot the comp, I see the splash screen, I press F2, type expert, [enter]. The kernel loads And that's all - I'm left with a blank screen, and nothing else happens. Does the same happen if you let it run on automatic? I had the same problem with 10.0, but then I thought I just burned the cd's wrong. Anyway, it all works fine on an another computer. I would suppse by the process of elimination you know what it's not. Have you tried asking in the expert conference? Differences between the 9.2 and the 10.1?? I tried all (at least I think they were all) install option - noauto, text, ect... but it didn't help. The last mandrake release working on my computer was 9.2. Here is a list of my hardware: cpu: P4 1700 ram: 256 MB RAMBUS gfx: Radeon 7200 64 MB snd: SB Live! Player 1024 hdd: Seagate Barracuda 7200 120 GB dvd: LG GDR-8162B cdrw: LG GCE-8524B lan: Realtek RTL8139 + some stuff connected to USB, a scanner, a printer,... Can sbd help me with this? Will 9.2 go back on at all? Will any other version work, such as 10.0? Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] p2p
- Original Message - From: Alan Ianson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] p2p Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:41:20 -0800 On Mon January 31 2005 12:19 am, Dave Needham wrote: hi all is there any software i can use to dwnload music that works on linux.use to use filetopia but looks to confusing for linux There are many. I have used Gtk-Gnutella with good results. There are mdk rpms available at web site. http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net * Apollon rocks! ;-) --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Audigy 2 not recognized 10.1
Anne Wilson wrote: The problem with Creative cards is that they sell cards with one model name but several possible chipsets. You think you are getting the same card, but you are not. I've been bitten by that one too. The only thing I can suggest is to try Mandrake Control Center Hardware Hardware then select the unrecognised card and attempt to run a manually installed driver (Run Config Tool Let me pick any driver). There is an Audigy driver, snd-emu10k1 and emu10k1. The first two are alsa drivers, I believe, and the last one an OSS driver. If none of them work you are probably stumped. I did open up the MCC and selected the run config tool, but got the error that it found no recognized card, and wouldn't allow me to set any alternative drivers at all. Is there any way to get this to run manually? I also opened up a console and ran alsaconf. It reported no compatible card. Rick Kunath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2-beta4
On Monday 31 January 2005 12:40 am, Greg Meyer wrote: place and they should install cleanly over my beta3 packages. There have been no updates to taglib or any of the other libraries that needed to be updated on 10.1, so the beta4 package should be all you need. BTW, I should have been more clear about this, but these packages should work on a clean 10.1 install, I use the gstreamer packages on http://eslrahc.com and the xine packages from plf. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] p2p
On Monday 31 January 2005 12:19 am, Dave Needham wrote: try stream ripper with stream recorder Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Sua saude esta bem?
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Re: [newbie] Linux commands.......????
teguh wrote: Hi, Thank you Julie for asking Making New Connection cause I have the same problem since I live in Asia (Indonesia). I don't know which provider should I choose. Beside that I have problem with my connection so i'll work on building connecting first then ask that question.Till now i'm still struggling to connect my comp to internet under Linux or save my money to buy an external modem to overcome this. ===it's just a blow of my thought today!!=== Hi teguh - - here is the external modem I bought last summer; it works well for me: http://www.bestdata.com/product.asp?pid=41catID=4 I think I have the same setup as you - - dual booting Mandrake-10.0 and WinXP. The call-waiting feature only works on the Winduh side though. :( hth Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. The announcement is here (in Danish) : http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. The announcement is here (in Danish) : http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 Kaj Haulrich. Good news, kaj. Was it Denmark that the commission decided were going to vote yes, stopping it from getting thrown out? If I recall, someone in government found out what was going on and started making a fuss. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Archives
Paul Smith wrote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:23:55 +0100, Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2005 00:09, Noel McG. wrote: I realize that this has been asked before but can someone give me the add for the newbie archives please. http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/maillist.html I prefer: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2 Oh, WOW that's a nice database. Thank you for the link. Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 install problem
Mike Adolf wrote: On Sunday 30 January 2005 08:28 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 30 January 2005 03:45 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio. The installation video appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got a black screen. How does one even begin to solve that kind of problem? Mike Put the first CD in and reboot, then choose the upgrade 10.1 and let it go to the last screen, then choose screen resolution and try resetting to a lower color setting like 16bpp or less, run a test and see if you get the rainbow. If so you will have a useable config and you can go to finish. and reboot. Thanks for the reply. I did as you suggested. The resolution was at 1024x786 (or something like that) and the color was already set at 16bpp, which was the smallest of available choices. I change the resolution to 1024x480, the next smaller choice. After reboot, KDE came up, but the smaller resolution is unworkable. I used harddrake to reset it back to 1024x786, rebooted, and got the same black screen. This is a dual boot with XP and XP works fine with the higher res. I have another monitor to try, but if that doesn't do it, I guess that 10.1 doesn't work with the graphics card, Intel 185. Mike Make sure the monitor selection is correct. It sounds like the higher settings are driving the monitor beyond its rating. By changing the frequency range that the monitor supports, you can probably get the regulation you want. You can also try setting the color depth to less the 16bpp. I am not sure what modes you are actual using, as the numbers you report are not standard ones... 1600 X 1200 1280 X 1024 1024 X 768 800 X 600 640 X 480 320 X 240 Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Audigy 2 not recognized 10.1
On Monday 31 January 2005 13:36, Rick Kunath wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: The problem with Creative cards is that they sell cards with one model name but several possible chipsets. You think you are getting the same card, but you are not. I've been bitten by that one too. The only thing I can suggest is to try Mandrake Control Center Hardware Hardware then select the unrecognised card and attempt to run a manually installed driver (Run Config Tool Let me pick any driver). There is an Audigy driver, snd-emu10k1 and emu10k1. The first two are alsa drivers, I believe, and the last one an OSS driver. If none of them work you are probably stumped. I did open up the MCC and selected the run config tool, but got the error that it found no recognized card, and wouldn't allow me to set any alternative drivers at all. Is there any way to get this to run manually? I also opened up a console and ran alsaconf. It reported no compatible card. Rick Kunath Found this: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/16628/match=audigy : - From: Peter Zubaj pzad at pobox.sk Subject: Re: Problem With SB Audigy 2 Value Newsgroups: gmane.linux.alsa.user Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:20:24 +0100 Hi, Support for Audigy 2 Value was added only recently and is not in your alsa 1.0.6. Upgrade to newer alsa. Peter Zubaj - HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. The announcement is here (in Danish) : http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 Kaj Haulrich. Good news, kaj. Was it Denmark that the commission decided were going to vote yes, stopping it from getting thrown out? If I recall, someone in government found out what was going on and started making a fuss. No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - conservative) just voted yes in the Politburo, - err - Commission out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician doesn't know the first thing about matters like this, so he just follows the big guys. And his advisers i.e. the bureaucrats in the public service know even less. Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some fuss, and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland put in on hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke up and started a petition. And many Danes, including myself, wrote emails to the various political parties warning them of losing voters in case they lost their minds. Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?
2005. janur 31. 07.21 dtummal Hugh Dixon ezt rta: -Original Message- I'm not sure if I'm hijacking this thread, but, for my interest, could someone who does know explain what this script does/how it works? (It's the stuff in the [*] that isn't obvious to me...) Thanks, Hugh from man bash: When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-inter- active shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes com- mands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable. The --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior. When a login shell exits, bash reads and executes commands from the file ~/.bash_logout, if it exists. When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is started, bash reads and executes commands from ~/.bashrc, if that file exists. This may be inhibited by using the --norc option. The --rcfile file option will force bash to read and execute commands from file instead of ~/.bashrc. greetings Ati Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:39:36 +0100 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - conservative) just voted yes in the Politburo, - err - Commission out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician doesn't know the first thing about matters like this, so he just follows the big guys. And his advisers i.e. the bureaucrats in the public service know even less. Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some fuss, and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland put in on hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke up and started a petition. And many Danes, including myself, wrote emails to the various political parties warning them of losing voters in case they lost their minds. Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? I am perhaps treading in on MandrakeOT-domains here but I do get the feeling that the dane doesn't like EU ;o) /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Monday 31 January 2005 18:01, Anders Lind wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:39:36 +0100 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - conservative) just voted yes in the Politburo, - err - Commission out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician doesn't know the first thing about matters like this, so he just follows the big guys. And his advisers i.e. the bureaucrats in the public service know even less. Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some fuss, and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland put in on hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke up and started a petition. And many Danes, including myself, wrote emails to the various political parties warning them of losing voters in case they lost their minds. Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? I am perhaps treading in on MandrakeOT-domains here but I do get the feeling that the dane doesn't like EU ;o) /Anders What on earth makes you think so, Anders ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:55:48 +0100 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What on earth makes you think so, Anders ? Can't think of a reason LOL /A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Emoticons etc. In Thunderbird
Until I recently lost my Thunderbird installation I had a tool bar which I assume I had downloaded as a theme. This had features such as a facility to change fonts, underline text, add graphical emoticons and so on. For the life of me I cannot remember where I got it and wonder if any Thunderbird users recognise this feature and can point me into the right direction. Of course I have searched for it but it seems to be fairly elusive. Thanks for any guidance. -- Alan Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux 10.0 Official A 100% Microsoft-free computer Sent via Thunderbird - an Open Source mailer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:51 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Sunday 30 January 2005 04:26 pm, frengoGorgia wrote: Il lun, 2005-01-31 alle 01:00, JoeHill ha scritto: Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never* set an out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list? Many thanks! I SUBSCRIBE AND JOIN to the petition. Of course we will. 8^)) Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Port Changes for services
I have my own webserver and mail server. Nightly, I get emailed my security stuff. I noticed this one this morning. Do the ports on the services just change on their own? Why would open ports close and open up somewhere else? Thanks for the help. Security Warning: There are modifications for port listening on your machine : - Opened ports : tcp0 0 localhost:10026 *:* LISTEN 9312/master - Opened ports : tcp0 0 webserver.clandait:smtp *:* LISTEN 9312/master - Opened ports : tcp0 0 localhost:smtp *:* LISTEN 9312/master - Closed ports : tcp0 0 localhost:10026 *:* LISTEN 2556/master - Closed ports : tcp0 0 webserver.clandait:smtp *:* LISTEN 2556/master - Closed ports : tcp0 0 localhost:smtp *:* LISTEN 2556/master Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] p2p
On Mon January 31 2005 03:11 am, Angus Auld wrote: hi all is there any software i can use to dwnload music that works on linux.use to use filetopia but looks to confusing for linux There are many. I have used Gtk-Gnutella with good results. There are mdk rpms available at web site. http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net Apollon rocks! ;-) OK, I must have a look then.. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sua saude esta bem?
2005. janur 31. 13.36 dtummal MSN Hotmail ezt rta: This is an auto-generated response designed to let you know that our system received your support inquiry and a Support Representative will review your question and respond to you soon. Please note that you will not receive a reply if you respond directly to this message. Thank you for contacting MSN Hotmail Support. Remember that MSN Hotmail also has comprehensive online help available--just click Help in the upper right corner. this is more than ridiculous, this is an annoying bug another tasteless Microsoft action? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Audigy 2 not recognized 10.1
Frans Ketelaars wrote: Support for Audigy 2 Value was added only recently and is not in your alsa 1.0.6. Upgrade to newer alsa. Ah, excellent, thank you. It looks like I'll be attempting to compile and install Alsa tonight. Rick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 12:51:28 up 29 days, 1:31, 7 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 +++ If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. -- Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Tips on installing Alsa 1.08 on MDK 10.1
It looks like I'll have to install Alsa 1.08 on Mandrake 10.1 to get support for my Audigy 2 Value card. I'd appreciate any tips anyone may have on this process. I had planned to install from sources on the Alsa site, unless someone can suggest an easier way. The install looks pretty straight forward, but I am wondering if there are any gotchas? I see 10.2 has Alsa 1.08 installed, but I need sound prior to the Official 10.2 release. Thanks in advance, Rick Kunath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On January 31, 2005 12:52 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... We will split your case amongest ourselves then and was that like a peanut butter sandwich to go into that ziplock bag ? evil grin Um don't answer that ok :-) Regards, Dan Gordon -- Mon Jan 31 13:27:29 EST 2005 13:27:29 up 1:53, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.04 We place two copies of PEOPLE magazine in a DARK, HUMID mobile home. 45 minutes later CYNDI LAUPER emerges wearing a BIRD CAGE on her head! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] interesting news story
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 12:34, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:10:42 -0500 Julie Sloan disseminated the following: Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software http://tinyurl.com/5hezf Now why would those poor starving people want to miss out on this?: http://weblog.infoworld.com/foster/2005/01/28.html#a209 It's not going to matter. MS Windows is going to get pirated no matter what MS does, and it only strengthens the F/OSS stance. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- God gives burdens; also shoulders Jimmy Carter cited this Jewish saying in his concession speech at the end of the 1980 election. At least he said it was a Jewish saying; I can't find it anywhere. I'm sure he's telling the truth though; why would he lie about a thing like that? -- Arthur Naiman, Every Goy's Guide to Yiddish Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 31 Jan 2005 20:14, mike wrote: I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. If I understand you correctly you are wanting to keep your old lilo.conf, so that you can copy/use settings after you have installed 10.1. Correct? Why not open lilo.conf and save to lilo.conf.old? That way the install will find lilo.conf as it expects, but you will still have an intact copy. I use this whenever I know I'm going to do something that will overwrite an important config file. It's also good to save originals, such as the smb.conf which gives so much helpful info. I save it as smb.conf.orig before I start editing. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/pQ0kFAvMr/nNX8RAoDGAJ9XkN9HyKRYOvlqcJwRY+R+Q4YzTwCfbNN9 3zWgjFSC3UsCmy3sTjlxswI= =DqTk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Lilo and new kernel
I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... It's just me too... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux commands.......????
On Monday 31 January 2005 09:46 am, Julie Sloan wrote: teguh wrote: Hi, Thank you Julie for asking Making New Connection cause I have the same problem since I live in Asia (Indonesia). I don't know which provider should I choose. Beside that I have problem with my connection so i'll work on building connecting first then ask that question.Till now i'm still struggling to connect my comp to internet under Linux or save my money to buy an external modem to overcome this. ===it's just a blow of my thought today!!=== Hi teguh - - here is the external modem I bought last summer; it works well for me: http://www.bestdata.com/product.asp?pid=41catID=4 I think I have the same setup as you - - dual booting Mandrake-10.0 and WinXP. The call-waiting feature only works on the Winduh side though. :( hth Julie call witing features of the modem are something setup with the init string you send the modem just before calling. copy the init string you use in winders, and/or look through the book that came with your modem. you can set the same init string in the setup of kppp.. -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 install problem
On Monday 31 January 2005 11:03 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: On Sunday 30 January 2005 08:28 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 30 January 2005 03:45 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio. The installation video appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got a black screen. How does one even begin to solve that kind of problem? Mike Put the first CD in and reboot, then choose the upgrade 10.1 and let it go to the last screen, then choose screen resolution and try resetting to a lower color setting like 16bpp or less, run a test and see if you get the rainbow. If so you will have a useable config and you can go to finish. and reboot. Thanks for the reply. I did as you suggested. The resolution was at 1024x786 (or something like that) and the color was already set at 16bpp, which was the smallest of available choices. I change the resolution to 1024x480, the next smaller choice. After reboot, KDE came up, but the smaller resolution is unworkable. I used harddrake to reset it back to 1024x786, rebooted, and got the same black screen. This is a dual boot with XP and XP works fine with the higher res. I have another monitor to try, but if that doesn't do it, I guess that 10.1 doesn't work with the graphics card, Intel 185. Mike Make sure the monitor selection is correct. It sounds like the higher settings are driving the monitor beyond its rating. By changing the frequency range that the monitor supports, you can probably get the regulation you want. You can also try setting the color depth to less the 16bpp. I am not sure what modes you are actual using, as the numbers you report are not standard ones... 1600 X 1200 1280 X 1024 1024 X 768 800 X 600 640 X 480 320 X 240 Mikkel is video card is also on-board and as such, in order to use the modes that may require more memory, he may have to pass a mem= xxxM on the lilo append line, or when booting. the xxx should be changed to reflect the correct amount of Memory available to the system. So if he had a 256 mem stick, and is using 32 megs as video shared memory, he would try it first by hitting escape when lilo first comes up, then type in linux mem=224M (don't forget the last capital M) hit enter and see if he can use the video modes he wants. if that works, write back, and someone will explain how to make the change permanent with each boot. he might also want to consider that sizes that are not standard ones are for laptops (such as 1024x480) or devices with a display that is not the same rectangle as most monitors used to be -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
Julie Sloan wrote: JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... It's just me too... A decent sized case will contain several bags...enough for all of us ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ I have always noticed that whenever a radical takes to Imperialism, he catches it in a very acute form. -- Winston Churchill, 1903 ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Emoticons etc. In Thunderbird
Apologies for the earlier question - the answer lies in Thunderbird itself. To access emoticons, fonts, underlining, bold text and so on set:- Edit - Preferences - Composition - send options - send the message in both plain text and html, and then a new tool bar opens under the Subject line in Thunderbird's compose screen. Apologies but someone might like that information. :-) -- Alan Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux 10.0 Official A 100% Microsoft-free computer Sent via Thunderbird - an Open Source mailer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 31 Jan 2005 20:14, mike wrote: I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. If I understand you correctly you are wanting to keep your old lilo.conf, so that you can copy/use settings after you have installed 10.1. Correct? Why not open lilo.conf and save to lilo.conf.old? That way the install will find lilo.conf as it expects, but you will still have an intact copy. I use this whenever I know I'm going to do something that will overwrite an important config file. It's also good to save originals, such as the smb.conf which gives so much helpful info. I save it as smb.conf.orig before I start editing. Anne Anne, yes thats kinda what I'm talking about. 10.1 is already installed I'm just updating the kernel on it. Basiclly I want to have it simple to update kernels on both 10.0 and 10.1 (like it was before,as mentioned above). Right now what it looks like I'll have to do is update the kernel on the 10.1 side (after I restored the lilo.conf of course) then create an entry for my 10.0 side so I can boot to that after running lilo on the 10.1. I guess I can create /mnt/ entry on both sides then alternate lilo's each time I update kernels on either side. :-) Starting to get confusing. Anyways seemed simpler when the kernel would install without complaining about not finding the bootloader. At least in my circumstance. I know this is Way out in left field but since I'm not dependent on 10.1 yet I wonder if I should try to force the kernel install and see if it works. something to consider...maybe. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
Margot wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... It's just me too... A decent sized case will contain several bags...enough for all of us ;-) Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't turn down liquid reward either... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Emoticons etc. In Thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 31 Jan 2005 21:08, Alan Dunford wrote: Apologies for the earlier question - the answer lies in Thunderbird itself. To access emoticons, fonts, underlining, bold text and so on set:- Edit - Preferences - Composition - send options - send the message in both plain text and html, and then a new tool bar opens under the Subject line in Thunderbird's compose screen. Apologies but someone might like that information. :-) How about a Thunderbird entry under http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MailUserAgents? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/rM9kFAvMr/nNX8RAr9XAJ46/javftUfXTwpAcUic9fVmDJMmgCdGC5W J1+nVMFxB8dfdpQ3VhM/zLQ= =aR4E -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. The announcement is here (in Danish) : http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 Kaj Haulrich. Good news, kaj. Was it Denmark that the commission decided were going to vote yes, stopping it from getting thrown out? If I recall, someone in government found out what was going on and started making a fuss. No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - conservative) just voted yes in the Politburo, - err - Commission out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician doesn't know the first thing about matters like this, so he just follows the big guys. And his advisers i.e. the bureaucrats in the public service know even less. Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some fuss, and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland put in on hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke up and started a petition. And many Danes, including myself, wrote emails to the various political parties warning them of losing voters in case they lost their minds. Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? Kaj Haulrich. Thanks for the information, Kaj, and especially thanks for writing to the politicos. I used to be a member of Amnesty International, and one of their most successful campaign tools were sacks of letter pouring into some third-world country from all over the globe, about some poor sod who'd disappeared into (e.g.) Saddam Hussein's prisons. A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a twinge of worry about his future? A techniuq Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] interesting news story
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:40:16 +1100 Stephen Kühn disseminated the following: Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software http://tinyurl.com/5hezf Now why would those poor starving people want to miss out on this?: http://weblog.infoworld.com/foster/2005/01/28.html#a209 It's not going to matter. MS Windows is going to get pirated no matter what MS does, and it only strengthens the F/OSS stance. ...I think you missed the best part of the article, mate: So we're not talking about people who were trying to rip off Microsoft. Instead, an awful lot of people who paid their money for Windows in good faith are going to discover that somebody along the line - a distributor, a reseller, an OEM -- cheated them. They are just as much victims of the counterfeiters as Microsoft. More actually, because they were in less of a position to defend themselves. Perhaps we should call them Windows' Genuinely Disadvantaged. *That's* what's going to drive people to F/OSS, the fact that not only do they have to contend with malicious script kiddies and the headaches *they* cause, but now MS itself is going to be giving 'honest' people headaches more than their OS already does (if that's possible). But wait, it get's better: http://www.vnunet.com/news/1160791 MS hasn't got a foot left to shoot off, they're up to a messy stump on both legs. Either that or Ballmer is some kind of millipede...hm :-))) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 17:54:32 up 29 days, 6:34, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.22, 0.27 +++ Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. -- Amschel Mayer Rothschild, banker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 01:52, Paul wrote: snip A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a twinge of worry about his future? /snip Thanks for your comments, Paul. I agree completely. Nowadays we've got another, effective weapon : the Internet. Some political parties here wanted to look trendy, so they sat up blogs. This turned out two be a sword with two, sharp sides. By allowing comments from average citizens, they exposed themselves to embarrassing questions and found out they couldn't get away with their usual blabbermouthed gobbledygook. So, lately, they tend to think twice and ask people in the knowing before they answer. Progress, I think. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:26:09 -0500 Julie Sloan disseminated the following: It's just me too... Oh jeez, just what this list needs. Posts about the World Social Forum and Zip-Loc baggies...heh, we're gonna get along just fine :-) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 18:56:34 up 29 days, 7:36, 8 users, load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.01 +++ Where the state begins, individual liberty ceases, and vice versa. -- Bakunin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:03:08 + Margot disseminated the following: A decent sized case will contain several bags...enough for all of us ;-) A *case* of *bags*?! Are you quite mad? I'd never leave the house! Waitaminnit... -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:09:15 up 29 days, 7:49, 8 users, load average: 0.09, 0.09, 0.03 +++ It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth... -- Morpheus, in The Matrix, describing Fox News Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] interesting news story
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:10:42 -0500 Julie Sloan disseminated the following: Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software http://tinyurl.com/5hezf More related to this on NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4471963 Quote: The government of Brazil says it will switch 300,000 government computers from Microsoft's Windows operating system to open source software like Linux. Microsoft founder Bill Gates wants to meet with Brazil's president to discuss the change. Brazil is dropping all proprietary software. Heh, ol' Billy's feeling the heat :- -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:12:43 up 29 days, 7:52, 8 users, load average: 0.43, 0.19, 0.06 +++ If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. -- Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10.1 and ViaVoice
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:57:25 +1300 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #Back in Nov 04 a thread titled Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime #discussed amoungst other things Voice Recognition and ViaVoice in particular. #Jack did you try Viavoice and if so did you get it sorted. # #I've just upgraded to 10.1 Official and have been able to get my hands on the #ViaVoice (v1.o) RPM's that shipped with MDK 8.0. # #I'v read Volker Kuhlmann's pages #http://volker.dnsalias.net/linux/speechrec.html and #/linux/vv/viavoice-SuSE8.2.html . I've also downloaded his script. # #My question is: Has anyone installed this version of ViaVoice on 10.1 and did #you experience any problems that I should be aware of? # #Any clues as to what to look for would be appreciated. # Follow Up Ok, so I started to install the RPMS this morning and run into a dependency problem in that the file libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 is required. I've search the mdk 8.0 cd's and its not there, so googled and could not find a copy of the file. If uou are still running mdk 8.0 would you be so kind as to mail me a copy of this file's rpm. Thanks, and I will keep looking for it as well. E. David I. Taylor Beneath the Mountain, beside the Sea; Taranaki, the place to be. composed using Sylpheed, sent from a 100% Linux/Open Source computer featuring Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk @ 13:19:35 up 1 day, 2:30, 1 user, load average: 1.04, 1.18, 1.28 == if replying please leave the filter code, ie [] contents, in subject line == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?
-Original Message- From: Siposs Attila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 3:40 AM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ? 2005. január 31. 07.21 dátummal Hugh Dixon ezt írta: -Original Message- I'm not sure if I'm hijacking this thread, but, for my interest, could someone who does know explain what this script does/how it works? (It's the stuff in the [*] that isn't obvious to me...) Thanks, Hugh from man bash: When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-inter- active shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes com- mands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable. The --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior. When a login shell exits, bash reads and executes commands from the file ~/.bash_logout, if it exists. When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is started, bash reads and executes commands from ~/.bashrc, if that file exists. This may be inhibited by using the --norc option. The --rcfile file option will force bash to read and execute commands from file instead of ~/.bashrc. greetings Ati Thanks! Hugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any PDA users out there?
Noel McG. wrote: Whilst not actually answering your question this http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums may be somewhere to start. It in fact deals with GPS systems but there are write ups on various models and your glider package may be mentioned. However most of these run Windows 2002/3 PPC I do not recall anyone using a Linux setup anuless it has been installed under another name. Good luck. Noel, Thanks for your reply. The site you sent me to was great, I learned a heap of stuff I didn't know. Those SDIO GPS cards look really great, I hope I can find one without the road map software that seems to make them so expensive. Just standard GPS features would be great if I can find it. In perfect compliance with Murphy's Law, I thought to visit the Kpilot website *after* posting for help here! It was great to see it listed known working models. I now have a shiny new Palm Tungsten E on the way...can't wait. -Aidan. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
Heck I would settle for just a hic bottle. On 31 Jan 2005 at 12:52, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 12:51:28 up 29 days, 1:31, 7 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 +++ If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. -- Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:26:09 -0500 Julie Sloan disseminated the following: It's just me too... Oh jeez, just what this list needs. Posts about the World Social Forum and Zip-Loc baggies...heh, we're gonna get along just fine :-) Oh, I'll just blab anything. That's just me too... um... I mean... never mind... :) Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
On 31 Jan 2005 at 12:52, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck I would settle for just a hic bottle. What on earth is a hic bottle?!? **(puts fingers on keys in various positions, trying to figure out if it's a typo) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: big snip A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a twinge of worry about his future? A stupid, arrogant one. And there's them too. :( -- But now we got weapons Of the chemical dust If fire them we're forced to Then fire them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side. -Bob Dylan, 1963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike If you post your lilo.conf for 10.1, I can tell you what is wrong. From the error message, I suspect that the lable from your default=lable statment does not match any lable=label statment. So lilo dosent know what to do if it times out, or if you just hit Enter. If you run lilo -v, it will give you more information about what it is doing. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux commands.......????
et wrote: On Monday 31 January 2005 09:46 am, Julie Sloan wrote: Hi teguh - - here is the external modem I bought last summer; it works well for me: http://www.bestdata.com/product.asp?pid=41catID=4 I think I have the same setup as you - - dual booting Mandrake-10.0 and WinXP. The call-waiting feature only works on the Winduh side though. :( call witing features of the modem are something setup with the init string you send the modem just before calling. copy the init string you use in winders, and/or look through the book that came with your modem. you can set the same init string in the setup of kppp.. Sorry - where do you suggest I should begin looking for the init string? (Having call waiting would be so cool.) Got no book with it, just a slim paper folder and that tells next to nothing... there should be an install CD here somewhere... ewww eww ick ick cobwebs... not there... got discs for everything else... Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?
Siposs Attila ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 2005. január 31. 07.21 dátummal Hugh Dixon ezt írta: -Original Message- I'm not sure if I'm hijacking this thread, but, for my interest, could someone who does know explain what this script does/how it works? (It's the stuff in the [*] that isn't obvious to me...) Thanks, Hugh from man bash: When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-inter- active shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes com- mands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable. The --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior. When a login shell exits, bash reads and executes commands from the file ~/.bash_logout, if it exists. When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is started, bash reads and executes commands from ~/.bashrc, if that file exists. This may be inhibited by using the --norc option. The --rcfile file option will force bash to read and execute commands from file instead of ~/.bashrc. greetings Ati Exactly, and as it turns out I had a setting in my .Xdefaults that read, Aterm*loginshell: true that was causing the error .. oops ;) -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?
Hugh Dixon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: -Original Message- From: JoeHill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 10:47 AM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ? Change the script so that it is only run if fetchmail is *not* already running. Here's the one I use: ps ax ~/tmp/bashterm grep fetchmail ~/tmp/bashterm /dev/null if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then fetchmail fi I'm not sure if I'm hijacking this thread, but, for my interest, could someone who does know explain what this script does/how it works? (It's the stuff in the [*] that isn't obvious to me...) Thanks, I'll take a stab at it .. This is a bash builtin called test in [ ] .. man test for more. $? is the bash pre-defined variable that reports the error value of the last command -ne 0 ] is not equal to 0 or zero, if you didn't already know, [ $? -ne 0 ] means, if the grep command fails, being not-equal to 0, so fetchmail is not running, then it will start fetchmail otherwise the grep command returns true or 0, with fetchmail running, then skips starting it again. use konqueror for info:bash to see the rest .. HTH -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 10.1 and ViaVoice
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:36:31 +1300 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:57:25 +1300 #David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # ##Back in Nov 04 a thread titled Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime ##discussed amoungst other things Voice Recognition and ViaVoice in particular. ##Jack did you try Viavoice and if so did you get it sorted. ## ##I've just upgraded to 10.1 Official and have been able to get my hands on the ##ViaVoice (v1.o) RPM's that shipped with MDK 8.0. ## ##I'v read Volker Kuhlmann's pages ##http://volker.dnsalias.net/linux/speechrec.html and ##/linux/vv/viavoice-SuSE8.2.html . I've also downloaded his script. ## ##My question is: Has anyone installed this version of ViaVoice on 10.1 and did ##you experience any problems that I should be aware of? ## ##Any clues as to what to look for would be appreciated. ## # #Follow Up # #Ok, so I started to install the RPMS this morning and run into a dependency #problem in that the file libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 is required. I've search #the mdk 8.0 cd's and its not there, so googled and could not find a copy of the #file. # # #If uou are still running mdk 8.0 would you be so kind as to mail me a copy of #this file's rpm. # #Thanks, and I will keep looking for it as well. # Follow up #2 My machine would not read the first disc but after visiting another machine I now have the files. Sorry to bother the list. E. David I. Taylor Beneath the Mountain, beside the Sea; Taranaki, the place to be. composed using Sylpheed, sent from a 100% Linux/Open Source computer featuring Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk @ 17:28:15 up 3:09, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.10, 0.04 == if replying please leave the filter code, ie [] contents, in subject line == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] MP3 jukebox application
In Windows I have used Musicmatch Jukebox. Is there something comparable, or something you would recommend, to play MP3's in Linux? Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #333216 I fired MacArthur because he wouldn't respect the authority of the President. I didn't fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was. -- Harry S. Truman Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike If you post your lilo.conf for 10.1, I can tell you what is wrong. From the error message, I suspect that the lable from your default=lable statment does not match any lable=label statment. So lilo dosent know what to do if it times out, or if you just hit Enter. If you run lilo -v, it will give you more information about what it is doing. Mikkel You were right on the mark Mikkel, I did change the label. Here's my lilo.conf. I'll correct the label and give it another try. default=linux boot=/dev/hda1 map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent vga=788 read-only I'll correct the label and give it another try. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?
-Original Message- From: RickSisler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 10:53 AM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ? Hugh Dixon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: -Original Message- From: JoeHill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 10:47 AM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ? Change the script so that it is only run if fetchmail is *not* already running. Here's the one I use: ps ax ~/tmp/bashterm grep fetchmail ~/tmp/bashterm /dev/null if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then fetchmail fi I'm not sure if I'm hijacking this thread, but, for my interest, could someone who does know explain what this script does/how it works? (It's the stuff in the [*] that isn't obvious to me...) Thanks, I'll take a stab at it .. This is a bash builtin called test in [ ] .. man test for more. $? is the bash pre-defined variable that reports the error value of the last command -ne 0 ] is not equal to 0 or zero, if you didn't already know, [ $? -ne 0 ] means, if the grep command fails, being not-equal to 0, so fetchmail is not running, then it will start fetchmail otherwise the grep command returns true or 0, with fetchmail running, then skips starting it again. use konqueror for info:bash to see the rest .. HTH -- RickS Registered Linux user #338463 Mdk 10.1 OE - Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk@ http://counter.li.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 Excellent, Thank you, Hugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel... Success!
mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike If you post your lilo.conf for 10.1, I can tell you what is wrong. From the error message, I suspect that the lable from your default=lable statment does not match any lable=label statment. So lilo dosent know what to do if it times out, or if you just hit Enter. If you run lilo -v, it will give you more information about what it is doing. Mikkel You were right on the mark Mikkel, I did change the label. Here's my lilo.conf. I'll correct the label and give it another try. default=linux boot=/dev/hda1 map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent vga=788 read-only I'll correct the label and give it another try. Mike Worked out great! Was able to update kernel easily with no errors just what I was looking for. Thanks again, Mikkel Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: installation problem
On Monday 31 January 2005 12:20 am, Cyber Killer wrote: | Cyber Killer wrote: | Elwyn wrote: | The later versions might have new drivers that are causing problems. | | When I've been trying to sort these little problems out with PCs I try | changing the hardware around just in case... | | OK I'll try, but, I've always been using XFree4 and never had any | problems :-P | | I'll say how it came out in a couple of days | | OK, I switched the gfx cards (I borrowed a GF4 Ti from a friend) and | guess what? It didn't work :-( | | Replacing all my hardware one by one is a way of getting to the problem, | but I was hoping that someone may have a better solution. Even if I'd | find the part that is causing the problem this way, replacing it is out | of the question right now (ca$h problems ;-P ). | | Anyone has any other ideas? Drop back to a 2.4.x kernel. The 2.6 kernel seems to have a lot of problems (on Mandrake and Debian, anyway--'course Deb says it isn't ready for stable). e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 jukebox application
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:07, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: In Windows I have used Musicmatch Jukebox. Is there something comparable, or something you would recommend, to play MP3's in Linux? Thank you, Woah! Let the flamewars begin! There's a HEAP of choices out there, just about every beginning Linux geek tries his hand a writing an mp3 player :-). Some are really simple single file players, and then there's the video players like Xine and MPlayer that play MP3 in addition to video, but I'll skip those here, seeing as you want a MusicMatch replacement I assume you want a proper music database manager, tagger, ripper, etc. In the KDE world, my personal favourite is Juk: clean and simple but top quality with the best tagging tools. Amarok is preferred by others for all the bells and whistles. I haven't used them, but under Gnome there's Rhythmbox and Beep(?). And of course, there's the venerable XMMS. For ripping MP3's, there's also a lot of choices, but KAudioCreator or Grip are the two usually preferred. For burning to CD's the only real choice is K3B, which has some integrated ripping functions. You will probably find at least one of these already in your Mandrake menu under Multimedia/Sound, or you'll find them waiting for installation in the Software Manager under the Sound group. You may need to define Contribs as a source, and you will definitely need PLF to install lame to rip CD's to MP3. Cheers! John. - Forget that new hard drive, save some lives instead, donate to the Red Cross: USA: https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp UK: https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm Oz: https://www.redcross.org.au/Donations/onlineTsunamiDonations.asp NZ: https://www.banqonit.com/proxypage.aspx?boiid=205 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
