Re: [newbie] XF86Config settings for LG Studioworks 700S
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:49, WauloK wrote: > Yes! Definitely! Thanks :) Now you can get back into IRC and tell'em how great having TWO resources for Mandrake issues is, eh? (g) YankDownUnder -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Put not your trust in money, but put your money in trust. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] USB Mouse problem
oh ok. on top like we used to do with windows way back On Apr 3, 2005 5:35 AM, Ivo Perich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try installing without formatting anything... it works > > El Sábado, 2 de Abril de 2005 01:50, WauloK escribió: > > Ack! > > Too much configuring since installation to go back to the start! > > I'll have to find another way, but thanks > > > > On Apr 1, 2005 11:24 PM, Ivo Perich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jason: > > > > > > i forgot to remark that the security level is that i put IN THE > > > INSTALATION, im NOT talking about change the security level once Mandrake > > > is installed. Im talking about installing mandrake again, with a lower > > > security level. > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > Ivo > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > > > -- -- http://www.BangRocks.com/ - the Bangrocks network. http://Shop.BangRocks.com/ - download and buy software for linux, macos, windows, pocketpc, palmos and symbian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XF86Config settings for LG Studioworks 700S
Yes! Definitely! Thanks :) On Apr 6, 2005 2:40 PM, Andras Keszei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and run at 1152x864 I get about 70Hz when the maximum is 75Hz. > > > > Any cluebats? > > I also have an LG studioworks 700S, I did nothing out of the ordinary > (not actually having the skills), and I have the desktop at 1152x864 @ > 75Hz as per the OSD display on the monitor. I have Mdk10.0 and a > Geforce2 MX400 with the 5336 Nvidia driver. > Will it help if I send you my XF86Config (or any other) file? > > cheers > Andras > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > > > -- -- http://www.BangRocks.com/ - the Bangrocks network. http://Shop.BangRocks.com/ - download and buy software for linux, macos, windows, pocketpc, palmos and symbian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: KDE /K3B problem
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 13:59, Russell Butler wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:16, Russell Butler wrote: Hello all I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that it would not retain the "faces" settings. Mandrake Control Centre> System>Display Manager Select the 'KDM' display Manager derek Thanks for the suggestion Derek, but still the same behaviour. Is there any way to edit an .rc file or something, or at least debug what is happening? I am not entirely a newbie, but have not learnt my way around debugging. k3b --help doesn't seem to offer a verbose mode and no help from k3bsetup. Russell KDM configuration is in /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc It is well commented. derek Sorry I realise I didn't make it clear that it is the k3b error which is my main problem. The zombie process seems to interfere with other programs, especially trying to start mcc The "faces" one just appeared at the same time and I thought it might give a pointer to the source of the trouble. Thanks Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
Il mer, 2005-04-06 alle 04:11, jdow ha scritto: > From: "frengoGorgia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Il mar, 2005-04-05 alle 21:05, Anne Wilson ha scritto: > > > On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 19:37, jdow wrote: > > > > > > > > The cute problem is when you want to read a pdf file in your browser. > > > > It is probably better to save the pdf file and only allow AcroRead to > > > > access local files. > > > > > > I do tend to view the pdf in a browser first, then save it if it looks > useful. > > > > Anne , > > when you open a Pdf embed in a web page ,your browser download it in its > > cache so you have a copy saved locally . > > So it's the same thing open the pdf or save it and display later > > Are you sure it works that way, Frengo? There are indications that at > least one "widely distributed" (more's the shame) Web browser launches > AcroRead to reside in the browser window and passes it the file name > so that the file is downloaded by AcroRead. 8^) you are correct , jdow i mean only that there is no difference downloading the PDFfile with the browser plug-in or saving it "manually" with a right-click, and so the user don't have a prewiev of the file that "save" from downloading the complete file if the content of file isn't what he is looking for. The spyware-behaviour of acro-reader could only be prevented allowing it to open only local files . -- Regards, Francesco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] PS2 wheelmouse
On Monday 04 Apr 2005 12:04, Lee Wiggers wrote: > Is anyone else having trouble with the logitech optical mouse in > 10.1? > > I have used it, and am using it now on 4 boxes through a Belkin kvm > switch. I've got a MS wireless optical mouse. It used to be plugged into the PS2 port then I needed the adapter for the notebook, so it's now in USB. Changeover was fine and great, no problems. The difference is that I do not use a KVM switch... Are you able to try the USB option to see if that cures it?? Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 20:46, Lee Wiggers wrote: > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:24 +0100 > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 15:37, Miark wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:44:42 -0400, JoeHill wrote: > > In that case, the whole /home directory, including mail and any saved > > work, will be wiped out. You really do need a backup of your work and > > mail before you install. I'm not sure where sylpheed-claws stores your > > mail, but if you can't find it I'm sure someone will point you to it. > > > > Anne > home/yourhome/Mail. > > AND > > home/yourhome/.sylpheed or home/yourhome/.sylpheed-gtk2 also > needed depending on your vers. > > Lee Yes, I will back up as much as possible (ie everything) and then reinstall. But I am sooo tempted to hang on for 10.2. Although I had a MS Certified Engineer and IT chappie around here that always extolls the microsoft side and stuff... They've just moved and have no gas or hot water... Was quite surprised to find Mdk10 on Amd1300 more responsive and quicker than XP on a 2400 :) A convert I think... :) Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XF86Config settings for LG Studioworks 700S
> and run at 1152x864 I get about 70Hz when the maximum is 75Hz. > > Any cluebats? I also have an LG studioworks 700S, I did nothing out of the ordinary (not actually having the skills), and I have the desktop at 1152x864 @ 75Hz as per the OSD display on the monitor. I have Mdk10.0 and a Geforce2 MX400 with the 5336 Nvidia driver. Will it help if I send you my XF86Config (or any other) file? cheers Andras Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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[newbie] source build problem
I am not an expert in rebuilding rpms from src.rpms, but I have done it from time to time. I am now trying to build rpms for firefox 1.0.2 using the src rpm from cooker. However the process aborts after about 20 minutes with the following message: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.77790: line 96: fg: no job control error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.77790 (%install) line 96 of the aforementioned file reads: chmod 755 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-1.0.2/chrome/rc.d/generate-chrome.sh The permissions on the file /var/tmp/mozilla-firefox-1.0.2-buildroot/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-1.0.2/chrome/rc.d/generate-chrome.sh are -rwxr-xr-x Can someone please explain what the problem is and how to solve? TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KIOSlave and Bluetooth phone
Has anyone set up KIOSlave to connect to a Bluetooth phone? I have a Motorola A1000 which I'd like to upload/download images, documents and other files with. My KDEBluetooth can detect the phone and connect to it, but I only get the options of OBEX-Push and a couple other things, but not OBEX-kioslave. Do I need to install a package for this? I'd like to browse the phone's directories and install applications. I believe I can use the OBEX-push to install applications, but I want to browse. TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Site for testing JVM
On Apr 5, 2005 8:42 PM, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear All > > Is there some site for testing whether one's installed Java Virtual > Machine (JVM) is working fine? > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul > > Try this http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml -- Bye Alberto Omar Rodrigues Mendoza - Argentina Visite: www.porloschicos.com Visit: www.porloschicos.com/PorLosChicos.NET/index_english.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 12:30, mike wrote: > Ahh... thanks Steven. > > Never happened to me before at least since I been using Linux. > I guess I thought I was safer than I really was. > > Not sure how to turn that off in mozilla will look around. > > Again thanks, > Mike Not quite sure in Mozilla Mail - but it's there somewhere. If it was Evolution I could tell you right off the bat... -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Use a pun, go to jail. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document
Stephen Kühn wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 10:30, mike wrote: > > >> >>I'm scrolling it in mozilla browser and it kills X again. >> >>What is happening? is viewing the text document in browser executing >>some kind of java exploit? >> >>Should I report this to Source forge? Or am I compromized, I ran >>chkrootkit and results were negative (nothing showed up). >> >>Thanks >>Mike > > > Check your mail preferences and make sure that you only view the > messages at TEXT instead of HTML => that is where the problem lies. > > -- > stephen kuhn Ahh... thanks Steven. Never happened to me before at least since I been using Linux. I guess I thought I was safer than I really was. Not sure how to turn that off in mozilla will look around. Again thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [ml] [newbie] Which kernel?
JR wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:38 am, Cameron MacDonald wrote: Now I feel even sillierI remembered "uname" but forgot the switch!! For any command you dont know the switches for (but you do know the command), just type 'uname - -help'. Replacing 'uname' with whatever command is torturing you at that moment in time :) Regards, Jarlath Thanks, Jarlath. Yeah, I shoulda rmembered that. As I said the BBs were rolling around the noggin', not falling in the correct holes. Tioriadh Cam -- Closing the Windows in my life Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
From: "frengoGorgia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Il mar, 2005-04-05 alle 21:05, Anne Wilson ha scritto:
> > On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 19:37, jdow wrote:
> > >
> > > The cute problem is when you want to read a pdf file in your browser.
> > > It is probably better to save the pdf file and only allow AcroRead to
> > > access local files.
> >
> > I do tend to view the pdf in a browser first, then save it if it looks
useful.
>
> Anne ,
> when you open a Pdf embed in a web page ,your browser download it in its
> cache so you have a copy saved locally .
> So it's the same thing open the pdf or save it and display later
Are you sure it works that way, Frengo? There are indications that at
least one "widely distributed" (more's the shame) Web browser launches
AcroRead to reside in the browser window and passes it the file name
so that the file is downloaded by AcroRead.
{o.o}
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Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:04 am, jdow wrote:
> From: "Aron Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > > Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
> > > >On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote:
> > > >>On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
> > > >>>On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote:
> > > >>>| I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4.
> > > >>>|
> > > >>>| Dan
> > > >>>
> > > >>>OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like -
> > > >>>$1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars.
> > > >>
> > > >>I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I
>
> put
>
> > > >> in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used.
> > > >>
> > > >>>And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or
>
> at
>
> > > >>>least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a
> > > >>>machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x
>
> something,
>
> > > >>>maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole
>
> days.
>
> > > >I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of
>
> static
>
> > > > ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the
> > > > best
>
> 8
>
> > > > bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape
>
> storage
>
> > > > were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto
>
> the
>
> > > > motherboard ourselves.
> > > >
> > > >And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways
> > > > 8^).
> > >
> > > Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware
> > > sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all
> > > beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.)
> >
> > An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days
> >
> :-D
>
> Not worth it. Traditionally the earliest amateur computers were built
> out of Strowger relays and pinball machine parts. As for earliest "micro-
> computer" I have a friend who still has his 4004 based computer. (And for
> what it is worth perhaps the earliest micro-computer multitasking OS
> went into the OM-55 satcom modem for the Navy. It was built by Magnavox
> in Torrance back when 8080s were about $100-$150 a piece. On the other
> paw there may be something even older than that. But COSMAC ELF is a piker.
> Trust me on that one. Even my Processor Technology Sol PC is relatively
> new on the block compared to the first toys out there. (6502 based
> thingies need not apply. And I think the Sol PC design predated the
> COSMAC and F8 chips, too.)
>
> (I passed up acquiring a mostly built Altair when its owner died of
> pancreatic cancer. I was playing with bigger iron, some nice Hewlett
> Packard 8500 consoles based on their 2100S mini-computer. I built
> myself a nice interactive circuit analysis program. That was before
> "They" discovered I could commit software as well as design fancy
> Radio Frequency electronics. All of which is mooted by the couple
> people I know who built pinball machine and Strowger relay based
> "things".)
>
> {^_-} Joanne
I would love to look at your jnk box you have had some machines that I used to
drool over in the pages of Computer Shopper (back when it was a freebie)
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Re: [newbie] pdf text
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:03:33 +0100, Q.H. wrote: > > > > Although I have Acrobat 7, I still use pdftotext to convert > > from one to the other. Try that instead and see if it does > > any better. > > Many thanks Miark. I tried to use pdftotext to convert one or > two pages of two pdf files into text files, but I got no luck. > What I got in the text files are some mess. Could you please > show me more on how to use it? Thanks. Not much to it, really. I just type 'pdftotext filename.pdf' which generates filename.txt. Feel free to e-mail me the file offlist if you'd like me to take a crack at it. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:59:07 +1000, WauloK wrote: > Hence, it's the first naive Word processor! > > On Apr 6, 2005 7:38 AM, Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:10:03 +0100, JR wrote: > > > * It exports to PDF naively :-) Since moving to Sylpheed 1.9.6, the spell check has gone crazy. If you check a word, try to "correct" it (I say that because it erroneously flags many correctly spelled words) and then later keep typing somewhere else in the message, the characters appear in the last error spot, and it won't stop. I've had to resort to saving the message as a draft, and then reopening it to continue typing. Believe it or not, I _did_ actually spell this correctly the first time! Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: [Wine]To su or not to su
> h:\ maps to your home drive. Or, mine does. I used winetools-2.1.0-jo > to set up wine. See what else is in ~/.wine/dosdevices. > > -- > > Charles Curley /"\ASCII Ribbon Campaign > Looking for fine software \ /Respect for open standards > and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email > http://www.charlescurley.com/ \No M$ Word docs in email > > Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB Does Winetools come with the Mandrake distro CDs? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 10:30, mike wrote: > I know this is actually a no...no... but sometimes I get these > emails meant for a windows box with attachments like joker.exe or > whatever. > > Anyways I dont open the attachments, but I view the message source > just to see what it looks like. I know :-| killed the cat. > > I did not ever have a problem until today I got 2 of them and each > time I viewed them X died with "client killed". > > So I copy them to a file and view them there with an editor. Ok no > problem so I open up my browser and do a search on some of > particulars like subject and attachments. > > I whined up at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/ at a developers > forum and see a similar message there. > > I'm scrolling it in mozilla browser and it kills X again. > > What is happening? is viewing the text document in browser executing > some kind of java exploit? > > Should I report this to Source forge? Or am I compromized, I ran > chkrootkit and results were negative (nothing showed up). > > Thanks > Mike Check your mail preferences and make sure that you only view the messages at TEXT instead of HTML => that is where the problem lies. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document
I know this is actually a no...no... but sometimes I get these emails meant for a windows box with attachments like joker.exe or whatever. Anyways I dont open the attachments, but I view the message source just to see what it looks like. I know :-| killed the cat. I did not ever have a problem until today I got 2 of them and each time I viewed them X died with "client killed". So I copy them to a file and view them there with an editor. Ok no problem so I open up my browser and do a search on some of particulars like subject and attachments. I whined up at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/ at a developers forum and see a similar message there. I'm scrolling it in mozilla browser and it kills X again. What is happening? is viewing the text document in browser executing some kind of java exploit? Should I report this to Source forge? Or am I compromized, I ran chkrootkit and results were negative (nothing showed up). Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Site for testing JVM
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 4:42 pm, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All > > Is there some site for testing whether one's installed Java Virtual > Machine (JVM) is working fine? www.java.com -- Linux User #183693 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Playing dvd movies on a computer
Anne, why uninstall Xine? Shouldn't I just be able to update it? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Site for testing JVM
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 09:42, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All > > Is there some site for testing whether one's installed Java Virtual > Machine (JVM) is working fine? > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul Why not something fun? http://speculativevision.com/arcade/tailgunner/tailgunner.html -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Come, every frustum longs to be a cone, And every vector dreams of matrices. Hark to the gentle gradient of the breeze: It whispers of a more ergodic zone. -- Stanislaw Lem, "Cyberiad" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
Il mar, 2005-04-05 alle 21:05, Anne Wilson ha scritto: > On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 19:37, jdow wrote: > > > > The cute problem is when you want to read a pdf file in your browser. > > It is probably better to save the pdf file and only allow AcroRead to > > access local files. > > I do tend to view the pdf in a browser first, then save it if it looks useful. Anne , when you open a Pdf embed in a web page ,your browser download it in its cache so you have a copy saved locally . So it's the same thing open the pdf or save it and display later Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Site for testing JVM
Dear All Is there some site for testing whether one's installed Java Virtual Machine (JVM) is working fine? Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Connecting a video camera
On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 14:52, Auke Jan Kroon wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Mandrake 10.0 on my aunt's computer (can be upgraded to 10.1 > if necessary) and she bought a Sharp VL-Z1S video camera with > DV/IEEE1394/Firewire output. I don't have a video camera, so my > knowledge about this is close to zero. Can anyone tell me which (brand > and type of) Firewire card she should buy to connect the camera to the > PC? I cannot find anything on the hardware compatibility list. > > In addition, can anyone point me to documentation about how to get it to > work? > > Thanks, > > > AJ I don't know too much about this but my experience for what it's worth is :- I have a panasonic DV camera and I plug it into the firewire port on my Audigy sound card. I use Kino to handle the video, to make it work I had to add raw1394, dv1394 and video1394 to /etc/modprobe.preload. This worked fine on 10.0 but when I first installed 10.1 udev did not make device node /dev/raw1394 and I had to do it manually, however there has since been an update to udev which fixes this. You may need to change the permissions for /dev/raw1394 so that a user can access it, tip if so add /dev/raw1394 to the line in /etc/security/console.perms. HTH Pete ArdnamurchanScotland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview
Hence, it's the first naive Word processor! On Apr 6, 2005 7:38 AM, Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:10:03 +0100, JR wrote: > * It exports to PDF naively Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] pdf text
> > Although I have Acrobat 7, I still use pdftotext to convert from > one to the other. Try that instead and see if it does any better. Many thanks Miark. I tried to use pdftotext to convert one or two pages of two pdf files into text files, but I got no luck. What I got in the text files are some mess. Could you please show me more on how to use it? Thanks. Bests, Q.H. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] PS2 wheelmouse
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 04:09 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:04:18 -0400 > > Lee Wiggers wrote: > > Is anyone else having trouble with the logitech optical mouse in > > 10.1? > > > > I have used it, and am using it now on 4 boxes through a Belkin kvm > > switch. > > Mine exhibits the same behaviour. > > The workaround I use is that each time I change to a different system I > disconnect and then reconnect the mouse from the kvm switch. > Mines on an extension cable so that I can keep it within easy reach I solved the same problem by adding "psmouse.proto=bare" to the append in the lilo.conf. After remember to 'lilo' to reset the boot things worked with the KVM. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XF86Config settings for LG Studioworks 700S
Hey Yank! :) Nah didn't manage to resolve it. As I said, for some reason the OSD says "44.1kHz / 55.0 Hz". I *know* it's not 55 Hz cos that'd be sooo flickery it'd drive me nuts! Usually the OSD on the monitory also displays the RESOLUTION of the desktop (ie 1152x864) but at the moment, it's only showing the above frequencies.. I know it IS in 1152x864 cos I went to one of those 'browser detection javascript' websites and it told me the resolution (besides just looking right). I _have_ tried editting it by hand. That's how I put the modelines into the file. I don't know about Frame Buffer, but I spose it's something I can look at. On Apr 5, 2005 8:59 PM, Stephen Kühn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 19:26, WauloK wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I'm trying to set up my XF86Config. > > I've tried entering the data from a Modelines generator website, but > > it doesn't seem to be using the entered info. > > If I look at the OSD of the monitor at the moment it says: > > 44.1kHz / 55.0Hz > > It's in 1152x864 > > > > The Horizontal Freq range: 30 - 70 > > The Vertical Freq range: 50 - 160 > > > > The Modeline I got from the generator is: > > Modeline "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 111.72 1152 1184 1608 1640 864 880 891 908 > > The website I got the info from says my Pixel clock is 110MHz but the > > generator suggested 111.72 > > If I just use the Control Panel to set the resolution to 1024x768 and > > I start up, it's running at 70Hz. The maximum freq is 85Hz in this > > mode (confirmed in XP). > > If I use the default Modelines as Mandrake created when I installed it > > and run at 1152x864 I get about 70Hz when the maximum is 75Hz. > > > > Any cluebats? > > I had thought that either vern or moonie resolved this issue in > ##mandrake this afternoon - reckon not, eh? > > Have you tried to manually edit the /etc/X11/XF86Conf to initiate these > changes? > > YankDownUnder > -- > stephen kuhn > mobile: 0410-728-389 > illawarra and regional new south wales > --- > GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives > 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. > Registered Linux User # 267497 > --- > An antique that seems too good to be true, probably is. -- Kathy Lee's > Dictum > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lost XWindows
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 08:27, Charles Rodgers wrote: > >On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 08:13, Charles Rodgers wrote: > >> I foolishly entered "control alt F1" > >> and now my machine will only boot to the command screen. > >> > >> What is the command to get from the command screen back to XWindows ? > >> > >> Your help will be much appreciated. > >> > >> Charles > > > >ctrl-alt-F7 or ctrl-alt-F8 > > Thanks Stephen, > > Yes I did try that, but I just get a blank screen. > Any more suggestions? > > Charles As was suggested before, you might want to check to see if the /etc/inittab was modified => runlevel 3 is console login, runlevel 5 is GUI login => if the default is changed to 3, change it to 5 and reboot; as well, if you just want to start X, type: startx -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Nobody takes a bribe. Of course at Christmas if you happen to hold out your hat and somebody happens to put a little something in it, well, that's different. -- New York City Police Commissioner (Ret.) William P. O'Brien, instructions to the force. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lost XWindows
>On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 08:13, Charles Rodgers wrote: >> I foolishly entered "control alt F1" >> and now my machine will only boot to the command screen. >> >> What is the command to get from the command screen back to XWindows ? >> >> Your help will be much appreciated. >> >> Charles > >ctrl-alt-F7 or ctrl-alt-F8 Thanks Stephen, Yes I did try that, but I just get a blank screen. Any more suggestions? Charles -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 05/04/2005 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lost XWindows
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 23:13, Charles Rodgers wrote: > I foolishly entered "control alt F1" > and now my machine will only boot to the command screen. > > What is the command to get from the command screen back to XWindows ? > > Your help will be much appreciated. > > Charles Ctl+Alt+F1 only moves you to a text console temporarily. It will not affect any future boot. If your computer will only boot to text then you have screwed it up in some other way. (Ctl+Alt+F7 will bring you back to X from a text console) derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lost XWindows
Charles Rodgers wrote: I foolishly entered "control alt F1" and now my machine will only boot to the command screen. What is the command to get from the command screen back to XWindows ? Your help will be much appreciated. Charles This is strange. I use the Ctrl-Alt-F1 to change to the command line all the time, and I don't run into this problem. You do have to hit Alt-F7 to get back to the X secession. (Standard install - this can be changed.) But you should have gotten the GUI login back when you rebooted as well. In any case, if it is now booting into level 3, instead of level 5, you can change this in a couple of ways. I believe drakconf offers an option for this. Or you can edit /etc/inittab, and change id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: This should fix things, unless you did something to break the X server. You can also run "telinit 5" as root to change to run level 5, instead of rebooting. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lost XWindows
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 08:13, Charles Rodgers wrote: > I foolishly entered "control alt F1" > and now my machine will only boot to the command screen. > > What is the command to get from the command screen back to XWindows ? > > Your help will be much appreciated. > > Charles ctrl-alt-F7 or ctrl-alt-F8 -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- No matter who you are, some scholar can show you the great idea you had was had by someone before you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] PS2 wheelmouse
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:04:18 -0400 Lee Wiggers wrote: Is anyone else having trouble with the logitech optical mouse in 10.1? I have used it, and am using it now on 4 boxes through a Belkin kvm switch. Mine exhibits the same behaviour. The workaround I use is that each time I change to a different system I disconnect and then reconnect the mouse from the kvm switch. Mines on an extension cable so that I can keep it within easy reach Charles At a guess, I would say the mouse supports more then one format of reporting events. The Linux box is using a mode that is different then the other boxes. When you change to the other box, the mode gets changed, but it doesn't get reset when changing back to the Linux box. Now, if you could figure out the mode the other boxes are using, and force the Linux box to use the same mode, you would be all set... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Lost XWindows
I foolishly entered "control alt F1" and now my machine will only boot to the command screen. What is the command to get from the command screen back to XWindows ? Your help will be much appreciated. Charles -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 05/04/2005 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] PS2 wheelmouse
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:04:18 -0400 Lee Wiggers wrote: > Is anyone else having trouble with the logitech optical mouse in > 10.1? > > I have used it, and am using it now on 4 boxes through a Belkin kvm > switch. Mine exhibits the same behaviour. The workaround I use is that each time I change to a different system I disconnect and then reconnect the mouse from the kvm switch. Mines on an extension cable so that I can keep it within easy reach Charles -- Don't hit a man when he's down -- kick him; it's easier. - Mandrake Linux 10.2 on PurpleDragon 2.6.10-3.mm.11mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgpjyxLBFldlc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [ml] [newbie] Which kernel?
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:38 am, Cameron MacDonald wrote: > Now I feel even sillierI remembered "uname" but forgot > the switch!! uname -a Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:10:03 +0100, JR wrote: > I have an interview coming up in a few weeks. One of the minor > requirements would be skills with MS word and excel. I was > thinking of using this as an opportunity to say "but I've also > started to use OOo more often because I find I am more > productive and it does ". > > Can anyone give me a few differences / similarities they might > be interested in? I'm not going to get into open source to > them at the interview. But if I can quickly mention a few > tangible clenchers, I will. The jobs not that good anyway :) * It's multi-platform * It's free to them _and_ free to any departments and clients or customers with whom you might share documents * It exports to PDF naively * It can be installed on any machine at any time without concern of licensing issues * I understand it's more secure than Word out-of-the-box, but you might want to double-check that * The suite comes with other software that is also free, e.g. you get PowerPoint-type software at no addition cost As you say, though, I'd make this an exceptionally _minor_ sidenote to your interview. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] pdf text
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:52:15 +0100, Q.H. wrote: > I have some problem when using the feature of "select text" of > Adobe reader 7.0. For some pdf documents, the texts I selected > are ok. But for some others, the texts I slected are kinda > mess when I put them into OO writer. Does any one have similar > experience? Although I have Acrobat 7, I still use pdftotext to convert from one to the other. Try that instead and see if it does any better. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:24 +0100 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 15:37, Miark wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:44:42 -0400, JoeHill wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 17:38:47 +0100 > > > Elwyn York disseminated the following: > > > > > > As far as your mail, it's stored in your home dir, which > > > during even a clean install is not formatted, at least not by > > > default AFAIK. This should go for most if not all of your > > > 'data', depending on how you have your disk partitioned. > > > > This is true if /home is its own partition, but what if it's on > > the same partition as /? Will it not get wiped on a new install? > > In that case, the whole /home directory, including mail and any saved work, > will be wiped out. You really do need a backup of your work and mail before > you install. I'm not sure where sylpheed-claws stores your mail, but if you > can't find it I'm sure someone will point you to it. > > Anne > -- > Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) > Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels home/yourhome/Mail. AND home/yourhome/.sylpheed or home/yourhome/.sylpheed-gtk2 also needed depending on your vers. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 19:37, jdow wrote: > > So you simply block all ports for AcroRead. That's as easy as only > blocking port 80. > > > The cute problem is when you want to read a pdf file in your browser. > It is probably better to save the pdf file and only allow AcroRead to > access local files. I do tend to view the pdf in a browser first, then save it if it looks useful. > So watch, the Acrobat people will include a little > app that AcroRead talks to and that little app accesses the net. It has > a different name so it can still communicate. You get into an arms race > quite literally. > > It may be that the way to handle this is in the court of public opinion. > Spray this information around to all your friends. If they stop using > AcroRead and use other tools instead maybe Adobe will get the message. > (For that matter - why use AcroRead on Linux, anyway?) > In theory, I don't mind a bit if an author wants to know about his work being read. The problem, of course, is in how it can be abused. As to why us AcroRead - things may have improved lately, but I first installed AcroRead because it handled scaleable printing better - printing 2-up, or A4 onto A5 paper. Certainly at that time I couldn't do it in any other package. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpWP90zcUWC4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
From: "Bryan Phinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tuesday 05 April 2005 06:26, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
> > > An app that knows the difference between these two things? That's not
> > > asking for much now, is it? If I could build such a thing, nobody on
> > > this group could afford it, Cisco and the other router manufacturers
> > > would be in a bidding war to buy it for themselves.
> >
> > No, a user that knows the difference.
>
> Should have been more clear here. Two scenarios, first a user that has
access
> which I covered below, second, an app that can do it at root level without
> user access which I was pointing out is quite a stretch.
>
> > > If you have a single personal firewall-like app for Linux, that
problem
> > > is solved. If you install such an app and count on it to protect you
> > > from insecure software, you are living in a fool's paradise.
> > >
> > > Again, I don't have any problem with someone coding this, nor with
> > > running it, I simply don't see the point. It is "Windows" dressing,
> > > nothing more.
> >
> > I don't think so. I accept that it is not good control, but the
> > alternative seems to be complete absence of control. If an application
> > needs to reach out to get data, as Acrobat Reader does, then it has to
have
> > that ability, and I see no reason why it could not equally well send out
> > packets. Perhaps that's because I don't understand firewalling deeply
> > enough, but the discussions on both lists are not explaining the things
we
> > need to understand, like this point.
>
> Well, let's cover that really quickly. If Acroread is only being used to
> access local data, it needs no Internet access at all. Thus, you could
> firewall it off and still use it. However, as I understand things, it
> integrates into a browser and may actually pull the pdf file itself.
> Assuming that is the functionality you want, there is an outgoing request
to
> pull the data from the web, and then incoming packets that contain the pdf
> file. You could probably block posts which is what is being suggested,
but
> this implies an intimate knowledge of the workings of the app, knowing
what
> to block versus accept. Given the audience for this, I think that assumes
> entirely too much.
>
> Also, if Acroread is really using embedded javascript/java for this type
of
> thing, it is possible that someone can code the web bug such that
> communication is sent on a port other than port 80 and well above what
would
> be considered a security area that fits within the first 1024 ports.
Again,
> this requires some type of intimate knowledge of what is being done and
thus
> what needs to be blocked.
So you simply block all ports for AcroRead. That's as easy as only
blocking port 80.
The cute problem is when you want to read a pdf file in your browser.
It is probably better to save the pdf file and only allow AcroRead to
access local files. So watch, the Acrobat people will include a little
app that AcroRead talks to and that little app accesses the net. It has
a different name so it can still communicate. You get into an arms race
quite literally.
It may be that the way to handle this is in the court of public opinion.
Spray this information around to all your friends. If they stop using
AcroRead and use other tools instead maybe Adobe will get the message.
(For that matter - why use AcroRead on Linux, anyway?)
{^_^}Joanne
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Re: [newbie] back to Windows
From: "Aron Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
> > >On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote:
> > >>On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
> > >>>On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote:
> > >>>| I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4.
> > >>>|
> > >>>| Dan
> > >>>
> > >>>OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like -
> > >>>$1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars.
> > >>
> > >>I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I
put
> > >> in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used.
> > >>
> > >>>And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or
at
> > >>>least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a
> > >>>machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x
something,
> > >>>maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole
days.
> > >
> > >I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of
static
> > > ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best
8
> > > bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape
storage
> > > were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto
the
> > > motherboard ourselves.
> > >
> > >And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways
> > > 8^).
> >
> > Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware
> > sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all
> > beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.)
> An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days
:-D
Not worth it. Traditionally the earliest amateur computers were built
out of Strowger relays and pinball machine parts. As for earliest "micro-
computer" I have a friend who still has his 4004 based computer. (And for
what it is worth perhaps the earliest micro-computer multitasking OS
went into the OM-55 satcom modem for the Navy. It was built by Magnavox
in Torrance back when 8080s were about $100-$150 a piece. On the other
paw there may be something even older than that. But COSMAC ELF is a piker.
Trust me on that one. Even my Processor Technology Sol PC is relatively
new on the block compared to the first toys out there. (6502 based
thingies need not apply. And I think the Sol PC design predated the
COSMAC and F8 chips, too.)
(I passed up acquiring a mostly built Altair when its owner died of
pancreatic cancer. I was playing with bigger iron, some nice Hewlett
Packard 8500 consoles based on their 2100S mini-computer. I built
myself a nice interactive circuit analysis program. That was before
"They" discovered I could commit software as well as design fancy
Radio Frequency electronics. All of which is mooted by the couple
people I know who built pinball machine and Strowger relay based
"things".)
{^_-} Joanne
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Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview
On Apr 5, 2005 1:21 PM, H.J.Bathoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 19:14, Aron Smith wrote: > > It's better at opening *some* Word files than Word is > > OOo and Word treat whitespace differently.whatch out for that on large > docs.pdf is the solution. > -- > Good luck, > HarM > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > > > Doesn't OOo export to PDF? If so that can be a big plus on its own. -- Christopher Taylor - Registered Linux User #383327 If this message is sent to a mailing list please 'Reply to List' or re-write the To field. This will save on a lot of duplicate emails going out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 19:14, Aron Smith wrote: > It's better at opening *some* Word files than Word is OOo and Word treat whitespace differently.whatch out for that on large docs.pdf is the solution. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 09:49 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 18:10, JR wrote: > > I have an interview coming up in a few weeks. One of the minor > > requirements would be skills with MS word and excel. I was thinking of > > using this as an opportunity to say "but I've also started to use OOo > > more often because I find I am more productive and it does ". > > > > Can anyone give me a few differences / similarities they might be > > interested in? I'm not going to get into open source to them at the > > interview. But if I can quickly mention a few tangible clenchers, I will. > > The jobs not that good anyway :) > > > > Regards, > > > > Jarlath > > Well for one: it can open OOo files;) And almost any other format you throw > at it. > > 2.Vector graphics are handled better albeit rudimentary > > 3.comparing documents through , is cool...don't > know if Word has that or the people I asked just don't know. > > 4.Its free as in beer, as well! ;) It's better at opening *some* Word files than Word is Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 18:10, JR wrote: > I have an interview coming up in a few weeks. One of the minor requirements > would be skills with MS word and excel. I was thinking of using this as an > opportunity to say "but I've also started to use OOo more often because I > find I am more productive and it does ". > > Can anyone give me a few differences / similarities they might be > interested in? I'm not going to get into open source to them at the > interview. But if I can quickly mention a few tangible clenchers, I will. > The jobs not that good anyway :) > > Regards, > > Jarlath Well for one: it can open OOo files;) And almost any other format you throw at it. 2.Vector graphics are handled better albeit rudimentary 3.comparing documents through , is cool...don't know if Word has that or the people I asked just don't know. 4.Its free as in beer, as well! ;) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] pdf text
Hi folks, I have some problem when using the feature of "select text" of Adobe reader 7.0. For some pdf documents, the texts I selected are ok. But for some others, the texts I slected are kinda mess when I put them into OO writer. Does any one have similar experience? Bests, Q.H. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview
I have an interview coming up in a few weeks. One of the minor requirements would be skills with MS word and excel. I was thinking of using this as an opportunity to say "but I've also started to use OOo more often because I find I am more productive and it does ". Can anyone give me a few differences / similarities they might be interested in? I'm not going to get into open source to them at the interview. But if I can quickly mention a few tangible clenchers, I will. The jobs not that good anyway :) Regards, Jarlath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandriva
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:45 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote: > It seems our favourite distro is going to change its name That would be a pity, I always thought Mandrake was a great name. And the two suggested ones are awful (maybe it's my Irish accent?). Jarlath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [ml] [newbie] Which kernel?
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:38 am, Cameron MacDonald wrote: > Now I feel even sillierI remembered "uname" but forgot the switch!! For any command you dont know the switches for (but you do know the command), just type 'uname - -help'. Replacing 'uname' with whatever command is torturing you at that moment in time :) Regards, Jarlath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
Aron Smith wrote: On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.) An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days :-D Well, I probably paid more then I should have for it 20 years ago. I used it on my first home computer. I had a LOT of programs on paper tape. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandriva
Josenildo Marques wrote: It seems our favourite distro is going to change its name to _Mandriva_ (i.e., Mandrake+Conectiva), according to an article I have just read. The article says Mandrake bought the domains Mandriva.com and Mandriva.net. Conectiva bought the domain mandriva.com.br whois mandriva.com whois mantiva.com (might need to 'urpmi whois' first ) IRRC, there might've one or two others also. Speculation was that Mandrake registered those domains, shortly after the merger, on a "just in case" basis. Search 'mandriva' on a cooker ML archive to get the whole discussion. IIRC, Mantiva was the favorite. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker And the latest newsletter says Mandrake is going "to incorporate elements of technology from Conectiva, particularly in the area of the smart package management software and some of Conectiva's kernel enhancements." I think that means apt-get... Greg already did a good job of answering this, but you could also search cooker to see this discussion. And visit http://linux-br.conectiva.com.br/~niemeyer/smart/doc/README.html -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 15:37, Miark wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:44:42 -0400, JoeHill wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 17:38:47 +0100 > > Elwyn York disseminated the following: > > > > As far as your mail, it's stored in your home dir, which > > during even a clean install is not formatted, at least not by > > default AFAIK. This should go for most if not all of your > > 'data', depending on how you have your disk partitioned. > > This is true if /home is its own partition, but what if it's on > the same partition as /? Will it not get wiped on a new install? In that case, the whole /home directory, including mail and any saved work, will be wiped out. You really do need a backup of your work and mail before you install. I'm not sure where sylpheed-claws stores your mail, but if you can't find it I'm sure someone will point you to it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpPJ2civ7jfG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:44:42 -0400, JoeHill wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 17:38:47 +0100 > Elwyn York disseminated the following: > > As far as your mail, it's stored in your home dir, which > during even a clean install is not formatted, at least not by > default AFAIK. This should go for most if not all of your > 'data', depending on how you have your disk partitioned. This is true if /home is its own partition, but what if it's on the same partition as /? Will it not get wiped on a new install? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandriva
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 08:45 am, Josenildo Marques wrote: > And the latest newsletter says Mandrake is going "to incorporate > elements of technology from Conectiva, particularly in the area of the > smart package management software and some of Conectiva's kernel > enhancements." > I think that means apt-get... No, that means the SMART package manager. SMART is a technology that does better dependency checking than urpmi or apt-get, and is package manager agnostic, so it can be used with urpmi or apt-get. In fact, it is already in contrib. Probably what will happen, based on the discussions going on on the Cooker ML, is that some of the cool elements of SMART will be integrated into urpmi somehow. But no one thinks urpmi will be ditched for apt-get, especially since apt4rpm is, as I understand it, unmaintained. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > >On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote: > >>On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: > >>>On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: > >>>| I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. > >>>| > >>>| Dan > >>> > >>>OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - > >>>$1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. > >> > >>I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put > >> in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. > >> > >>>And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at > >>>least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a > >>>machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, > >>>maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. > > > >I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static > > ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8 > > bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage > > were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the > > motherboard ourselves. > > > >And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways > > 8^). > > Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware > sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all > beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.) An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days :-D > > Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] pci-express support
does mandrake-linux or linux in general support pci-express? Regards Isak Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: KDE /K3B problem
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 13:59, Russell Butler wrote: > Derek Jennings wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:16, Russell Butler wrote: > >>Hello all > >> > >>I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel > >>installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent > >>re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that > >>it would not retain the "faces" settings. > > > > Mandrake Control Centre> System>Display Manager > > Select the 'KDM' display Manager > > > > derek > > Thanks for the suggestion Derek, but still the same behaviour. > > Is there any way to edit an .rc file or something, or at least debug > what is happening? > > I am not entirely a newbie, but have not learnt my way around debugging. > > k3b --help doesn't seem to offer a verbose mode and no help from k3bsetup. > > Russell KDM configuration is in /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc It is well commented. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Acrobat Reader 7
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:38:36 +0200, Pablo wrote: > Since I installed Acrobat Reader 7, KGhostView no longer works > (hangs forever). I've just downloaded KPDF: doesn't work either > (*very* strange characters). Has anyone had the same problem? No problems here. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: KDE /K3B problem
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:16, Russell Butler wrote: Hello all I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that it would not retain the "faces" settings. Mandrake Control Centre> System>Display Manager Select the 'KDM' display Manager derek Thanks for the suggestion Derek, but still the same behaviour. Is there any way to edit an .rc file or something, or at least debug what is happening? I am not entirely a newbie, but have not learnt my way around debugging. k3b --help doesn't seem to offer a verbose mode and no help from k3bsetup. Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Acrobat Reader 7
I don't find any problem with KghostView after installing AR 7.0. It wroks as good as it used to. How did you install your AR 7.0? I just downloaded the RPM from adobe.com and made no other effort to install it. Q.H. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mandriva
It seems our favourite distro is going to change its name to _Mandriva_ (i.e., Mandrake+Conectiva), according to an article I have just read. The article says Mandrake bought the domains Mandriva.com and Mandriva.net. Conectiva bought the domain mandriva.com.br And the latest newsletter says Mandrake is going "to incorporate elements of technology from Conectiva, particularly in the area of the smart package management software and some of Conectiva's kernel enhancements." I think that means apt-get... -- Josenildo Marques ICQ 289971493 +++ Homepage http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/cyb/ Fotolog http://fotolog.terra.com.br/mytrip usuário Linux registrado No. 341648 09:36:46 up 11:51, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.24, 0.19 ** "When I picture a perfect reader, I always picture a monster of courage and curiosity, also something supple, cunning, cautious, a born adventurer and discoverer..." Friedrich Nietzsche Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Acrobat Reader 7
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 12:38, Pablo Ortuzar wrote: > Hello, > > Since I installed Acrobat Reader 7, KGhostView no longer works (hangs > forever). I've just downloaded KPDF: doesn't work either (*very* strange > characters). Has anyone had the same problem? I haven't heard people complaining that kpdf doesn't work, but I have heard about font problems - apparently something to do with substitutions. You may find it worth while searching the kde-linux mailing list archives for the thread "Kpdf and Acrobat Reader differ regarding fonts?" Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpLo67EOThMB.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] Acrobat Reader 7
Hello, Since I installed Acrobat Reader 7, KGhostView no longer works (hangs forever). I've just downloaded KPDF: doesn't work either (*very* strange characters). Has anyone had the same problem? -- Pablo Ortúzar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE /K3B problem
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 11:33, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:16, Russell Butler wrote: > > Hello all > > > > I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel > > installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent > > re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that > > it would not retain the "faces" settings. > > Mandrake Control Centre> System>Display Manager > Select the 'KDM' display Manager > Also, IIRC the 'faces' settings were not maintained for me until I adjusted them in kcontrol > System > User Accounts Probably a combination of the two are needed. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpO0LlVG4KMy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 11:57, Bryan Phinney wrote: > > Well, I did suggest that they pay someone to develop such an app as I > didn't think that there would be a big Linux audience for it. (The fact > that there is not a current project for such a thing, to my knowledge, > would tend to bear that out.) However, I don't think that suggestion is so > much rude as simply realistic. Thank you, Bryan. Your exposition of what actually happens, and would be likely to happen in a variety of situations is just what is needed to help us understand the issues. Personally I'm not terribly worried by this, and I quite take the point that if it is really necessary for someone they can buy the expertise. What I was really referring to was the constant RTFM in that thread, when, according to your exposition, that does not really address the issue. As I said, thanks for making things much more clear. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpByO8cbgwiF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] XF86Config settings for LG Studioworks 700S
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 10:59 am, Stephen KÃhn mentioned: > > The Horizontal Freq range: 30 - 70 > > The Vertical Freq range: 50 - 160 > > Any cluebats? __ ~ maybe "FrameBuffer" mode helps? best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XF86Config settings for LG Studioworks 700S
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 19:26, WauloK wrote: > Hi. > > I'm trying to set up my XF86Config. > I've tried entering the data from a Modelines generator website, but > it doesn't seem to be using the entered info. > If I look at the OSD of the monitor at the moment it says: > 44.1kHz / 55.0Hz > It's in 1152x864 > > The Horizontal Freq range: 30 - 70 > The Vertical Freq range: 50 - 160 > > The Modeline I got from the generator is: > Modeline "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 111.72 1152 1184 1608 1640 864 880 891 908 > The website I got the info from says my Pixel clock is 110MHz but the > generator suggested 111.72 > If I just use the Control Panel to set the resolution to 1024x768 and > I start up, it's running at 70Hz. The maximum freq is 85Hz in this > mode (confirmed in XP). > If I use the default Modelines as Mandrake created when I installed it > and run at 1152x864 I get about 70Hz when the maximum is 75Hz. > > Any cluebats? I had thought that either vern or moonie resolved this issue in ##mandrake this afternoon - reckon not, eh? Have you tried to manually edit the /etc/X11/XF86Conf to initiate these changes? YankDownUnder -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- An antique that seems too good to be true, probably is. -- Kathy Lee's Dictum Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 06:26, Anne Wilson wrote: > > An app that knows the difference between these two things? That's not > > asking for much now, is it? If I could build such a thing, nobody on > > this group could afford it, Cisco and the other router manufacturers > > would be in a bidding war to buy it for themselves. > > No, a user that knows the difference. Should have been more clear here. Two scenarios, first a user that has access which I covered below, second, an app that can do it at root level without user access which I was pointing out is quite a stretch. > > If you have a single personal firewall-like app for Linux, that problem > > is solved. If you install such an app and count on it to protect you > > from insecure software, you are living in a fool's paradise. > > > > Again, I don't have any problem with someone coding this, nor with > > running it, I simply don't see the point. It is "Windows" dressing, > > nothing more. > > I don't think so. I accept that it is not good control, but the > alternative seems to be complete absence of control. If an application > needs to reach out to get data, as Acrobat Reader does, then it has to have > that ability, and I see no reason why it could not equally well send out > packets. Perhaps that's because I don't understand firewalling deeply > enough, but the discussions on both lists are not explaining the things we > need to understand, like this point. Well, let's cover that really quickly. If Acroread is only being used to access local data, it needs no Internet access at all. Thus, you could firewall it off and still use it. However, as I understand things, it integrates into a browser and may actually pull the pdf file itself. Assuming that is the functionality you want, there is an outgoing request to pull the data from the web, and then incoming packets that contain the pdf file. You could probably block posts which is what is being suggested, but this implies an intimate knowledge of the workings of the app, knowing what to block versus accept. Given the audience for this, I think that assumes entirely too much. Also, if Acroread is really using embedded javascript/java for this type of thing, it is possible that someone can code the web bug such that communication is sent on a port other than port 80 and well above what would be considered a security area that fits within the first 1024 ports. Again, this requires some type of intimate knowledge of what is being done and thus what needs to be blocked. If you want local access to pdf's only, then use an OS pdf viewer. What is much more likely to happen is that Acroread will request access to pull the pdf, the user will click allow and then Acroread will yank the pdf and then try to send a web bug to the source and since it has already been given permission, it will send its data. Another scenario is that the user will click Allow for get and then deny for second Post attempt in which case, perhaps the PDF will not display which will cause the user to click Allow for the second and the web but goes out. The only point that I can see that is possibly valid is the idea of having a firewall to block heretofore unknown requests from apps that should not need network access. Things like the spyware and adware apps that are bundled with other apps. However, again, I would point out that if you go around installing untrusted apps on your machine, I don't think that any personal firewall-like app is going to salvage your security. You will be compromised. Just as so many Windows users are compromised even though they have personal firewalls installed. > The problem is that security is a huge subject. People who need to > understand security for their business invest a great deal of time in > learning it well, but for users that need only to protect themselves from a > few things they see as threats while getting on with their real need there > is no easy way to get an overview of the subject. We don't need the same > level of security, really, though obviously it would be nice, but this > isn't utopia. There are trade-offs to everything. If you tighten things down too much, a platform becomes nearly unusable for certain things. For instance, locking down a web server makes it an unsuitable platform for development, or building applications. If you lock down your desktop to the level that it is impossible for any local app to communicate out, you are going to likely end up with either a nightmare administration scenario or an unusable desktop. I still truly feel that this discussion is misplaced. Someone wants to run an app they don't trust and they want a second app to protect them from the first. The premise is faulty, the real solution is to not run untrusted apps. For example, Internet Explorer is a bad browser for a lot of reasons but one of which is that it allows ActiveX applications to run without user int
Re: [newbie] KDE /K3B problem
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:16, Russell Butler wrote: > Hello all > > I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel > installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent > re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that > it would not retain the "faces" settings. > Mandrake Control Centre> System>Display Manager Select the 'KDM' display Manager derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 11:13, Bryan Phinney wrote: > > > > I think what people really want is something like a dialogue box on any > > dial-out from an application that gives the option of > > > > this session > > always > > never > > > > so that they can block automatic dial outs but allow genuine ones. > > An app that knows the difference between these two things? That's not > asking for much now, is it? If I could build such a thing, nobody on this > group could afford it, Cisco and the other router manufacturers would be in > a bidding war to buy it for themselves. > No, a user that knows the difference. > If you, as a user, can > allow/deny packets, then a rogue process that you installed on your machine > can do the same thing for its own packets. It need merely know HOW to do > so. That sounds a valid point, to me. > If you have a single personal firewall-like app for Linux, that problem > is solved. If you install such an app and count on it to protect you from > insecure software, you are living in a fool's paradise. > > Again, I don't have any problem with someone coding this, nor with running > it, I simply don't see the point. It is "Windows" dressing, nothing more. I don't think so. I accept that it is not good control, but the alternative seems to be complete absence of control. If an application needs to reach out to get data, as Acrobat Reader does, then it has to have that ability, and I see no reason why it could not equally well send out packets. Perhaps that's because I don't understand firewalling deeply enough, but the discussions on both lists are not explaining the things we need to understand, like this point. The problem is that security is a huge subject. People who need to understand security for their business invest a great deal of time in learning it well, but for users that need only to protect themselves from a few things they see as threats while getting on with their real need there is no easy way to get an overview of the subject. We don't need the same level of security, really, though obviously it would be nice, but this isn't utopia. Frankly, the issue that started the discussion on Expert, that of Acrobat Reader being capable of telling an author who is reading his work, doesn't worry me personally. I'm just concerned that we are being told to either invest the time that a professional would, or 'take a running jump' - not that you would be so rude :-) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgphQ1tLnNlOe.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] KDE /K3B problem
Hello all I have Mandrake 10.1 on 2.6.8.1-12mdk win4Lin kernel installed (dual boot with Win) and mostly use KDE. since a recent re-install I had been using the graphical login page, and I noted that it would not retain the "faces" settings. Trying to run k3b I would end up with a zombie process stalled at finding CD burner. I have upgraded KDE to 3.3, and when I first started, could open MCC. Then I tried to run k3b setup with : [EMAIL PROTECTED] russellb]# ps ax |grep k3b 7606 ?Ds 0:01 kcmshell k3bsetup2 Running mcc from an su console gives a splash screen and another defunct program [EMAIL PROTECTED] russellb]# ps ax |grep drak 9044 pts/3D 0:01 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/drakconf.real I will have to reboot to kill the zombies, but can anyone advise me how to enable k3b, and minimise the risk of recurrences? Thanks Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 04:49, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 01:11, Bryan Phinney wrote: > > So, when someone suggests that a Linux app be coded to provide the same > > false sense of security to users, when there are myriad choices of real > > firewalls as well as methods to lock the system down that are not > > trivially bypassed, some of us simply don't take the suggestion > > seriously. > > I think what people really want is something like a dialogue box on any > dial-out from an application that gives the option of > > this session > always > never > > so that they can block automatic dial outs but allow genuine ones. An app that knows the difference between these two things? That's not asking for much now, is it? If I could build such a thing, nobody on this group could afford it, Cisco and the other router manufacturers would be in a bidding war to buy it for themselves. > So far > many people have said that iptables rules should be used, but no-one has > actually shown that it can be done - at least they hadn't up to last night. > I haven't finished reading this morning. This has really been covered previously, Anne. If you, as a user, can allow/deny packets, then a rogue process that you installed on your machine can do the same thing for its own packets. It need merely know HOW to do so. If you have a single personal firewall-like app for Linux, that problem is solved. If you install such an app and count on it to protect you from insecure software, you are living in a fool's paradise. Again, I don't have any problem with someone coding this, nor with running it, I simply don't see the point. It is "Windows" dressing, nothing more. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] XF86Config settings for LG Studioworks 700S
Hi. I'm trying to set up my XF86Config. I've tried entering the data from a Modelines generator website, but it doesn't seem to be using the entered info. If I look at the OSD of the monitor at the moment it says: 44.1kHz / 55.0Hz It's in 1152x864 The Horizontal Freq range: 30 - 70 The Vertical Freq range: 50 - 160 The Modeline I got from the generator is: Modeline "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 111.72 1152 1184 1608 1640 864 880 891 908 The website I got the info from says my Pixel clock is 110MHz but the generator suggested 111.72 If I just use the Control Panel to set the resolution to 1024x768 and I start up, it's running at 70Hz. The maximum freq is 85Hz in this mode (confirmed in XP). If I use the default Modelines as Mandrake created when I installed it and run at 1152x864 I get about 70Hz when the maximum is 75Hz. Any cluebats? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firewall for allowing ports selectively
On Tuesday 05 Apr 2005 01:11, Bryan Phinney wrote: > > So, when someone suggests that a Linux app be coded to provide the same > false sense of security to users, when there are myriad choices of real > firewalls as well as methods to lock the system down that are not trivially > bypassed, some of us simply don't take the suggestion seriously. > I think what people really want is something like a dialogue box on any dial-out from an application that gives the option of this session always never so that they can block automatic dial outs but allow genuine ones. So far many people have said that iptables rules should be used, but no-one has actually shown that it can be done - at least they hadn't up to last night. I haven't finished reading this morning. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpejHYL6n4nq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] To su or not to su
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:57, Robert Yu wrote: > If I try to install a WIndows program with Wine, should I su to root > before doing so? NO Read the documentation at http://www.winehq.org to learn how to install Windows programs. http://www.frankscorner.org/ can help you get some specific Windows apps working. Alternatively pay for a commercial version of Wine from www.codeweavers.com or www.transgaming.com if you do not want to work out all the problems yourself. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
