Re: [newbie] [OT] what should I do about this?

2004-09-06 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 05 September 2004 03:02 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
 On Sunday 05 September 2004 19:53, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
  I wrote symantec:
 
  -
  www.symantic.com possibly malicious site
 
  From:
  Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CC:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date:
  Today 19:04:15
 
  This is not spam related, I just made a typo: typing an 'i' instead
  of in 'e'
  in your URL takes you to a site that pretends to be symantec.
 
  I hope this helps!
 
  -Frans
  --

 snip

 Sorry for replying to myself.

 Oops, at the end of the page at www.symantic.com they mention
 WinAntivirus.Com which seems to be another antivirus supplier.
 And the site www.symantic.com takes you to doesn't pretend to be
 symantec but looks like WinAntivirus.Com. Sorry for causing confusion.

 -Frans

Frans:
If SymantEc wasn't already aware of SymantIc, you can bet that SymantEc's 
lawyers will soon be sending a very nasty letter to SymantIc about trademark 
infringement, and threatening all sorts of legal mayhem. IANAL, but I'd say 
that SymantEc has a pretty good case. What's next? A Linux distribution 
designed to look like Windows called Lindows? When will it stop?
-- cmg



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Re: [newbie] [OT] what should I do about this?

2004-09-06 Thread Vincent Voois

Carroll Grigsby wrote:
that SymantEc has a pretty good case. What's next? A Linux distribution 
designed to look like Windows called Lindows? When will it stop?
-- cmg
Hmmz, that was previous, besides, in Europe it's still called Lindows because MS 
didn't won their war there.


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[newbie] [OT] what should I do about this?

2004-09-05 Thread Frans Ketelaars
I wrote symantec:

-
www.symantic.com possibly malicious site

From: 
Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: 
Today 19:04:15

This is not spam related, I just made a typo: typing an 'i' instead of 
in 'e' 
in your URL takes you to a site that pretends to be symantec.

I hope this helps!

-Frans
--

I guess in my email to symantec I used a wrong address but I couldn't 
find a better one :(

The reaction from symantec seems some standard reply...


Thank You for Your Spam Report to Our Brand Protection Team

From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 
Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 
Today 19:22:40

Thank you for taking the time to alert us about the SPAM (unsolicited
e-mail) you received.  Please be advised that the e-mail you forwarded 
to
us is not affiliated with Symantec or any approved Symantec partner and 
has
been sent without Symantec's knowledge or consent.  This e-mail may very
well be offering counterfeit and/or pirated software or may be a credit
card scam.

SPAMs offering deeply discounted Norton or Symantec brand products are
highly suspicious and are investigated by Symantec.  If you continue to
receive e-mails offering Symantec software at deeply discounted prices
and/or if the offers say that the software will arrive in anything other
than Symantec's standard yellow boxes, the offer may very well be 
illegal
in nature.

In response to these e-mails and the organizations/individuals behind 
them,
Symantec has developed a task force to investigate the e-mails and put a
stop to their proliferation, including initiating criminal and civil 
action
as appropriate. We ask you for your assistance in helping us put a stop 
to
this practice by continuing to forward any similar e-mails to our task
force at [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that we can investigate who is 
sending
the e-mails and attempt to stop them.  We rely on reports from 
individuals
such as you, employees and contacts throughout the hi-tech industry 
about
SPAMs such as this.

If you have purchased software purported to be a Symantec software 
product
through any of these SPAM offers, we would appreciate it if you would 
send
us the disc you received together with the sleeve, the envelope it was
mailed to you in and any packaging, invoices, e-mails, order forms and
proof of payment or other documentation you have relating to this 
purchase.
We will then examine the product to determine if it is counterfeit or
authentic.  Please send these materials to Investigations Manager,
Symantec Corporation, 20330 Stevens Creek Blvd., Cupertino, CA  95014.

Lastly, we also advise you not to respond to these e-mails, as any 
response
only confirms the accuracy of your e-mail address, resulting in even 
more
messages filling up your In Box.

Even though we do not authorize them, we apologize for any inconvenience
these e-mails have caused you and pledge to you that we are doing our 
best
to put a stop to them.  For more information please go to
http://www.symantec.com and visit our SpamWatch Response Center at
http://www.symantec.com/spamwatch/ to learn more about SPAM and piracy,
including the warning signs and tips to help you protect your privacy 
and
avoid SPAM and credit card fraud scams.  If you have concerns about a
product you have ordered from a SPAM offer (including nondelivery of
product) using your credit card, you may also wish to contact your 
credit
card institution to see what remedies may be available to you.  You may
also wish to read Business Week's article entitled Software Scams on
Internet Time to learn more about our efforts to combat SPAM and the
proliferation of pirated and counterfeit Symantec software at
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/02_39/b3801035.htm

Thank you again.

Chad Sharpe
Internet Security Investigator

Symantec Corporation
---

Thanks,

-Frans





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Re: [newbie] [OT] what should I do about this?

2004-09-05 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Sunday 05 September 2004 19:53, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
 I wrote symantec:

 -
 www.symantic.com possibly malicious site

 From:
 Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date:
 Today 19:04:15

 This is not spam related, I just made a typo: typing an 'i' instead
 of in 'e'
 in your URL takes you to a site that pretends to be symantec.

 I hope this helps!

 -Frans
 --

snip

Sorry for replying to myself.

Oops, at the end of the page at www.symantic.com they mention 
WinAntivirus.Com which seems to be another antivirus supplier.
And the site www.symantic.com takes you to doesn't pretend to be 
symantec but looks like WinAntivirus.Com. Sorry for causing confusion.

-Frans



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Re: [newbie] [OT] what should I do about this?

2004-09-05 Thread Vincent Voois

Frans Ketelaars wrote:
I wrote symantec:
-
www.symantic.com possibly malicious site
It's just a brand hijack, trying to lift upon the success of a large name.
They'll probably deal with a law-suit sooner or later.
It's similar to making an operating system called Doors and use Microsof as the 
trademark company name.
The name will officially not even be approved.


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