Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
Sorry about the HTML. Just reformatted and for got to change from the default (send in both). Tom Tom Karen Pino wrote: This all sounds interesting. There are a couple of problems. Many of these problems are due to my ignerce. As in what is urpmi? I looked that up and am now really confused. However, Lorin seems to get something out of the fine info I am gleaning from you fine folks. This last caused confusion to both of us. Lorin has the advantage of a linux system (even if it doesn't seem to work right). He has installed rpm drake which sounds handy. He looked up gpm and rpm and seemed to understand that. It seems that the libgpm stuff was not installed because of a failure to auto detect his mouse. He thinks that he got it installed. The mouse still does not work and he seems to have screwed up the number key pad being used as the moving force for his cursor. He can figure that out I am sure. I do not think that the urpmi stuff will help him yet as he is not online as the modem has not been detected either and he wants to figure out the mouse problem first. I went to the easy urpmi site and can't understand what they ae talking about. Remember that I am using Win98 (be kind). What the devil do they mean by type this in a console (I can wrap my brain around the as root part). Console? Lorin is also getting a notice on loading that loading default keymap failed. Does this have anything to do with the mouse problem or is it some other problem altogether? Your in ignerce, Tom Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 09:20 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Hi All, Update on mouse problem. He reinstalled the system. Now the menu that drakconf brings up works. The mouse does not. Has error message. While loading shared library: libgpm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. What does he do now? Just call us ignernt, Tom try installing the gpm rpm and associated libraries . Urpmi should do it for you. HTH : ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Sunday 26 September 2004 13:35, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Sorry about the HTML. Just reformatted and for got to change from the default (send in both). Tom I got the no html message thanks. I cant answer all of your questions but I'try. Tom Karen Pino wrote: This all sounds interesting. There are a couple of problems. Many of these problems are due to my ignerce. As in what is urpmi? urpmi may be the most valuable program you have for now. It is mdk's package maintainence system. It downloads a package with all required dependences (most of the time) it works with the rpm package maintenance system sort of as a wrapper that does some of the things you would have to do. Generally it works well but there are times when it screws up. It works better with -wget but the default is curl if you involke it with 'urpmi -wget package' I like the results better. See man urpmi urpmf urpme. I dont think there is a windows version. I looked that up and am now really confused. However, Lorin seems to get something out of the fine info I am gleaning from you fine folks. This last caused confusion to both of us. Lorin has the advantage of a linux system (even if it doesn't seem to work right). The linujx system cannot work right without urpmi working you need it to update whatever installation you have. You must realize that all linux systems depend on their users (maybe not IBM) to detect problems with the distribution and there are always problems with the distribution. I am running 10.0 Official and have updated approx 1GB so far. He has installed rpm drake which sounds handy. He looked up gpm and rpm and seemed to understand that. It seems that the libgpm stuff was not installed because of a failure to auto detect his mouse. He thinks that he got it installed. Not knowing which mouse you have it would be difficult to help with this. FWIW I have a wheel mouse with 3 buttons. Here if my configuration of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (the mouse portion) Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 6 7 EndSection This is unlikely to work for you unless you have a simular mouse. Do you remember during installation when you configured the country, time zone, mouse, etc. That is where you should have configured it. You can now use MCC to configure the mouse. Double click on the star flag on the desktop select configure in the lower left hand corner and enter your root password then explore you should find the mouse under hardware or system. The mouse still does not work and he seems to have screwed up the number key pad being used as the moving force for his cursor. He can figure that out I am sure. Thats the tough way. I do not think that the urpmi stuff will help him yet as he is not online as the modem has not been detected either and he wants to figure out the mouse problem first. Did you upgrade from windows? If so you probably have a winmodem and it is very tough to get one of those working. You would be waaay ahead to trash it and purchase an external real modem for as little as $18.00 up. The difference is a Winmodem is missing a chip. That chip is a controller chip which windows uses the cpu to replace making the cpu work harder and downloads slower as a result. A modem with a controller chip is called a Real Modem or A Hardware Modem or sometimes an External Modem but not a USB modem. I went to the easy urpmi site and can't understand what they ae talking about. Remember that I am using Win98 (be kind). What the devil do they mean by type this in a console (I can wrap my brain around the as root part). Console? They mean a Terminal clear. Go to the linux system click on the Star on the left of the taskbar when the menu pops up go to Systems and click on Terminal thats what they mean There is also on my task bar a TV screen(in black white) that is the same thing. It is easyer to set up the Terminal/Console to su root password first it will appear in the taskbar then go to easyurpmi set everything up and move the cursor to the first letter in type this in a console press left button and while continuing holding down the left button highlight the entire message. Then recall the Terminal/Console you previously set up and press button 2 or 13 together, That should do it but sometimes its necessary to hit enter. After that urpmi should be working and everything should be present. It would be better to do this on a week day since some of the mirrors can go flaky and it appears they are not well maintained over the weedend. Lorin is also getting a notice on loading that loading default keymap failed. Does this have anything to do with the mouse problem or is it some other problem altogether? Your in ignerce, Tom You really need to learn to speak linux. Dennis Myers
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Thursday 23 September 2004 23:18, Tom Karen Pino wrote: This all sounds interesting. There are a couple of problems. snip More people would read your messages if you did not send as HTML. Plain text is not automatically deleted. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 09:20 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Hi All, Update on mouse problem. He reinstalled the system. Now the menu that drakconf brings up works. The mouse does not. Has error message. While loading shared library: libgpm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. What does he do now? Just call us ignernt, Tom try installing the gpm rpm and associated libraries . Urpmi should do it for you. HTH : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
This all sounds interesting. There are a couple of problems. Many of these problems are due to my ignerce. As in what is urpmi? I looked that up and am now really confused. However, Lorin seems to get something out of the fine info I am gleaning from you fine folks. This last caused confusion to both of us. Lorin has the advantage of a linux system (even if it doesn't seem to work right). He has installed "rpm drake" which sounds handy. He looked up gpm and rpm and seemed to understand that. It seems that the libgpm stuff was not installed because of a failure to auto detect his mouse. He thinks that he got it installed. The mouse still does not work and he seems to have screwed up the number key pad being used as the moving force for his cursor. He can figure that out I am sure. I do not think that the urpmi stuff will help him yet as he is not online as the modem has not been detected either and he wants to figure out the mouse problem first. I went to the "easy urpmi" site and can't understand what they ae talking about. Remember that I am using Win98 (be kind). What the devil do they mean by "type this in a console" (I can wrap my brain around the "as root" part). Console? Lorin is also getting a notice on loading that "loading default keymap failed". Does this have anything to do with the mouse problem or is it some other problem altogether? Your in ignerce, Tom Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 09:20 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Hi All, Update on mouse problem. He reinstalled the system. Now the menu that drakconf brings up works. The mouse does not. Has error message. While loading shared library: libgpm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. What does he do now? Just call us ignernt, Tom try installing the gpm rpm and associated libraries . Urpmi should do it for you. HTH : ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
Hi All, Update on mouse problem. He reinstalled the system. Now the menu that drakconf brings up works. The mouse does not. Has error message. While loading shared library: libgpm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. What does he do now? Just call us ignernt, Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 07:01, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Brian, Called Lorin and he gave this a try. He got to the menu and could not get any of it to work with the enter key or a number of other key strokes (linux commands, I assume). I assume that this means that the install of his 9.1 is screwy in some way and he should reinstall. If this assumption is correct and I am not having a MS moment, should he reformate his HD or just reload? Or is there something else that we are over looking here? He really liked that menu. Too bad it won't work. Tom Brian Parish wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 09:42, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Welcome Tom, Can't provide you with exact settings for this mouse, but have him try this: At the boot manager prompt (I assume he's installed with lilo), press Esc to get the boot prompt, then type: linux init 3 That will boot the machine without starting X - i.e. command line only. Login as root and then type: drakconf That will produce a menu including mouse selection - probably under hardware. It's been a while since both 9.1 and using this interface for me, so I'm unable to be more specific. Hopefully that will at least get a start on fixing the problem. HTH Brian You can select the mouse configuration with the up and down arrow keys. The tab key lets you then select 'OK' or 'cancel'. If 'OK' is highlighted you can press 'enter' and you should at least get a bit further. Good luck! -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
Frans, This is what he did and got no response at all. Tom Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 07:01, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Brian, Called Lorin and he gave this a try. He got to the menu and could not get any of it to work with the enter key or a number of other key strokes (linux commands, I assume). I assume that this means that the install of his 9.1 is screwy in some way and he should reinstall. If this assumption is correct and I am not having a MS moment, should he reformate his HD or just reload? Or is there something else that we are over looking here? He really liked that menu. Too bad it won't work. Tom Brian Parish wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 09:42, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Welcome Tom, Can't provide you with exact settings for this mouse, but have him try this: At the boot manager prompt (I assume he's installed with lilo), press Esc to get the boot prompt, then type: linux init 3 That will boot the machine without starting X - i.e. command line only. Login as root and then type: drakconf That will produce a menu including mouse selection - probably under hardware. It's been a while since both 9.1 and using this interface for me, so I'm unable to be more specific. Hopefully that will at least get a start on fixing the problem. HTH Brian You can select the mouse configuration with the up and down arrow keys. The tab key lets you then select 'OK' or 'cancel'. If 'OK' is highlighted you can press 'enter' and you should at least get a bit further. Good luck! -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
Brian, Called Lorin and he gave this a try. He got to the menu and could not get any of it to work with the enter key or a number of other key strokes (linux commands, I assume). I assume that this means that the install of his 9.1 is screwy in some way and he should reinstall. If this assumption is correct and I am not having a MS moment, should he reformate his HD or just reload? Or is there something else that we are over looking here? He really liked that menu. Too bad it won't work. Tom Brian Parish wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 09:42, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Welcome Tom, Can't provide you with exact settings for this mouse, but have him try this: At the boot manager prompt (I assume he's installed with lilo), press Esc to get the boot prompt, then type: linux init 3 That will boot the machine without starting X - i.e. command line only. Login as root and then type: drakconf That will produce a menu including mouse selection - probably under hardware. It's been a while since both 9.1 and using this interface for me, so I'm unable to be more specific. Hopefully that will at least get a start on fixing the problem. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
Marc, Called him this evening and he tried this - no luck. We were hoping it would work as it is simple but this way it will be more educational. Tom Marc wrote: I had similar problems with 10.0 and I think the problem may have also been there on 9.1 and 9.2, can't remember for shure that was a while ago. I found that if I did not move the mouse at all from the time bootup started until the login screen was fully displayed the problem would not appear at all if I did move the mouse to soon the problem would be intermittant. I don't know if that will work for your son but it is so easy it is worth a try. Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
Hoyt, He is sure that he configured the mouse. He is good at following directions. I assume that he gets this trait from his mother. Tom Hoyt Bailey wrote: Sounds like a mistake I made. When I installed the system I forgot to configure the mouse during the configure phase in the installation. The only way I know to correct the problem is to reinstall and configure the mouse when able. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
Hello, I am Tom Pino, a ranchhand in S.E. Montana. I just joined this list as I have been interested in Linux for several years but just don't have the balls. My son on the other hand bought a new computer that is supposed to be Linux friendly. Had no OS installed. Was tested with XP and then formatted. He installed Mandrake 9.1 (from a power pack). Had no trouble using the mouse during setup. When rebooted and the login page came up the mouse froze. Getting through the log in with out the mouse it is still frozen. Will respond in no way or direction. Mouse is Mitsumi Optical Wheel (PS2) Mother Board is Asus A7VSX-X AMD FI XP2400 2gig chip Mandrake 9.1 kernal 2.4.21 I don't know any more about his box than that but can call and get more info. I sent him a HD with 98SE on it hopping that he could get on line and straighten this out and it has been a real circus because the thing is having trouble with the modem and then today with the printer. Typical MS crap. Thanks, Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 09:42, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Hello, I am Tom Pino, a ranchhand in S.E. Montana. I just joined this list as I have been interested in Linux for several years but just don't have the balls. My son on the other hand bought a new computer that is supposed to be Linux friendly. Had no OS installed. Was tested with XP and then formatted. He installed Mandrake 9.1 (from a power pack). Had no trouble using the mouse during setup. When rebooted and the login page came up the mouse froze. Getting through the log in with out the mouse it is still frozen. Will respond in no way or direction. Mouse is Mitsumi Optical Wheel (PS2) Mother Board is Asus A7VSX-X AMD FI XP2400 2gig chip Mandrake 9.1 kernal 2.4.21 I don't know any more about his box than that but can call and get more info. I sent him a HD with 98SE on it hopping that he could get on line and straighten this out and it has been a real circus because the thing is having trouble with the modem and then today with the printer. Typical MS crap. Thanks, Tom Welcome Tom, Can't provide you with exact settings for this mouse, but have him try this: At the boot manager prompt (I assume he's installed with lilo), press Esc to get the boot prompt, then type: linux init 3 That will boot the machine without starting X - i.e. command line only. Login as root and then type: drakconf That will produce a menu including mouse selection - probably under hardware. It's been a while since both 9.1 and using this interface for me, so I'm unable to be more specific. Hopefully that will at least get a start on fixing the problem. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Sunday 19 September 2004 06:42 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Hello, I am Tom Pino, a ranchhand in S.E. Montana. I just joined this list as I have been interested in Linux for several years but just don't have the balls. My son on the other hand bought a new computer that is supposed to be Linux friendly. Had no OS installed. Was tested with XP and then formatted. He installed Mandrake 9.1 (from a power pack). Had no trouble using the mouse during setup. When rebooted and the login page came up the mouse froze. Getting through the log in with out the mouse it is still frozen. Will respond in no way or direction. Mouse is Mitsumi Optical Wheel (PS2) Mother Board is Asus A7VSX-X AMD FI XP2400 2gig chip Mandrake 9.1 kernal 2.4.21 I don't know any more about his box than that but can call and get more info. I sent him a HD with 98SE on it hopping that he could get on line and straighten this out and it has been a real circus because the thing is having trouble with the modem and then today with the printer. Typical MS crap. Thanks, Tom I had similar problems with 10.0 and I think the problem may have also been there on 9.1 and 9.2, can't remember for shure that was a while ago. I found that if I did not move the mouse at all from the time bootup started until the login screen was fully displayed the problem would not appear at all if I did move the mouse to soon the problem would be intermittant. I don't know if that will work for your son but it is so easy it is worth a try. Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Sunday 19 September 2004 18:42, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Hello, I am Tom Pino, a ranchhand in S.E. Montana. I just joined this list as I have been interested in Linux for several years but just don't have the balls. My son on the other hand bought a new computer that is supposed to be Linux friendly. Had no OS installed. Was tested with XP and then formatted. He installed Mandrake 9.1 (from a power pack). Had no trouble using the mouse during setup. When rebooted and the login page came up the mouse froze. Getting through the log in with out the mouse it is still frozen. Will respond in no way or direction. Mouse is Mitsumi Optical Wheel (PS2) Mother Board is Asus A7VSX-X AMD FI XP2400 2gig chip Mandrake 9.1 kernal 2.4.21 I don't know any more about his box than that but can call and get more info. I sent him a HD with 98SE on it hopping that he could get on line and straighten this out and it has been a real circus because the thing is having trouble with the modem and then today with the printer. Typical MS crap. Thanks, Tom Sounds like a mistake I made. When I installed the system I forgot to configure the mouse during the configure phase in the installation. The only way I know to correct the problem is to reinstall and configure the mouse when able. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
