Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
On Thursday 05 August 2004 22:33, Julie Sloan wrote: Hi - my first post to this forum. I've been trying to inhale all the information out there and so far have made it through just a few of the info man pages. I'm on mandrake 10.0 official, got both KDE and Gnome running (but trying to make this work from the KDE GUI) dual booting with WinXP The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the linuxant site into the window$ partition in my /etc/fstab there's already this line: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 and I can peek into the windoze partition from KDE in terminal I copied the driver into a disposable directory, cd'd into the directory with it and did: rpm -iv hsfverylongfilename.rpm now in GUI... in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as unknown device. in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc now get this: I got a handshake, then an error message (The system doesn't seem to be connected to the internet. Try to reconfigure your connection). so I took the @mindspring.com off my login (what the hey, it's helped in netscape) and now I don't even get a handshake. And the same error message. Put the login back as it was and *still* get no handshake. Fooled around with the authentication because I have no idea if I need PAP/CHAP (the default) or script based or what, and when I have it set to CHAP I once again get a handshake ...and the error message. Can anyone see where I'm screwing up? thanks Julie You have what is called a winmodem. It is very difficult to get a winmodem to work in linux(for me impossible). The best bet is to get a true modem and it will work in both windows and everything else. The difference is that a winmodem does not have its own controller and must be managed by your CPU which takes considerable time while a true moden has its own controller and relives the CPU to do other things. I doubt that you are screwing up at all windows has already done that for you. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux user #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
Julie Sloan wrote: Hi - my first post to this forum. I've been trying to inhale all the information out there and so far have made it through just a few of the info man pages. I'm on mandrake 10.0 official, got both KDE and Gnome running (but trying to make this work from the KDE GUI) dual booting with WinXP The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the linuxant site into the window$ partition in my /etc/fstab there's already this line: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 and I can peek into the windoze partition from KDE in terminal I copied the driver into a disposable directory, cd'd into the directory with it and did: rpm -iv hsfverylongfilename.rpm now in GUI... in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as unknown device. in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc now get this: I got a handshake, then an error message (The system doesn't seem to be connected to the internet. Try to reconfigure your connection). so I took the @mindspring.com off my login (what the hey, it's helped in netscape) and now I don't even get a handshake. And the same error message. Put the login back as it was and *still* get no handshake. Fooled around with the authentication because I have no idea if I need PAP/CHAP (the default) or script based or what, and when I have it set to CHAP I once again get a handshake ...and the error message. Can anyone see where I'm screwing up? thanks Julie Julie You have a winmodem. It is sometimes *possible* to get these working under Linux, but it takes a great deal of hard work (as you've already discovered)! In the UK, high street electrical stores sell external modems for around £30 (probably even cheaper in the US - most things seem to be!) which will work fine under both Windows Linux (the packaging might not even mention Linux, and the salespeople will probably never have heard of it!) - just take it out of the box, plug in both ends, reboot both OSs should detect it automatically. Or, you could spend many hours, possibly even days, trying to get a winmodem to work. Time = money - but only you can work out whether it is worth spending several hours/days to save £30! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote: The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the linuxant site into the window$ partition Hi Julie, I have a Conexant modem running on Mdk10. It is an hcf modem and I also downloaded the driver from the Linuxant site. I installed the rpm then as root ran hcfpciconfig which led me through the configuration. (Mandrake Control Centre still doesn't recognise my modem.) I don't know whether this applies to hsf modems, but it may do. Simon. - -- Registered Linux user number 359744. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBE1FsYreSoOlOIpIRAqrWAKCSPvEiwqPXmgaojy0qqC9w/NIlHACg0lJs iWEb8hWx4wfQzJp5B7y/dVI= =OwhD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote: now in GUI... in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as unknown device. in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem, it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default). HTH. Simon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
On Friday 06 August 2004 05:54 am, simon wrote: Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem, it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default). Thought that I would mention this really quickly. http://pricewatch.com and search for external 56k modem and you will find a list of places that are currently selling a cendyne external serial modem for around $17 US. Granted, that is not a top of the line modem, but it uses an equivalent chipset to a Zoom external serial modem version that costs about $60. If you currently have a winmodem (crapmodem) and have always wanted to have a real honest to goodness external serial modem but are financially challenged, you might want to consider it. I know it is kind of OT but the last time I was in a computer store, they didn't even carry external serial modems, just the USB ones, and even those were priced fairly high. $17 is just a tad higher than you would normally pay for a cheapo winmodem so I thought some others on the list (at least in the US) might be interested. I didn't price intl shipping so I don't know if it would be suitable outside North America. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Friday 06 August 2004 05:54 am, simon wrote: Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem, it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default). http://pricewatch.com and search for external 56k modem and you will find a list of places that are currently selling a cendyne external serial modem for around $17 US. Granted, that is not a top of the line modem, but it uses an equivalent chipset to a Zoom external serial modem version that costs about $60. If you currently have a winmodem (crapmodem) and have always wanted to have a real honest to goodness external serial modem but are financially challenged, you might want to consider it. I know it is kind of OT but the last time I was in a computer store, they didn't even carry external serial modems, just the USB ones,snip I gather serial vs USB is the keyword here? (sorry - I'm *completely* ignorant. People probably wonder why I'm not on AOL :)) Thanks for the information ...it so happens today we're leaving the Small Town Where We Don't Lock the Doors and going to The Big City Where There's A Computer Store and I *will* take the time to look over the external modems. J -- why linux? because MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP. ...also, you are using 'free software' now. It tends to suck as much as the stuff that is not free, just in different ways. -Carol S Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
Bryan Phinney wrote: http://pricewatch.com and search for external 56k modem and you will find a list of places that are currently selling a cendyne external serial modem for around $17 US. Granted, that is not a top of the line modem, but it uses an equivalent chipset to a Zoom external serial modem version that costs about $60. If you currently have a winmodem (crapmodem) and have always wanted to have a real honest to goodness external serial modem but are financially challenged, you might want to consider it. Eeee - what about those of us that are financially challenged AND are operating on only a checkbook (not a charge card)? I'm *still* waiting for a linux book I ordered from Amazon - which should arrive on July 19th. Wonder did they mean 2005? (sorry - veered way OT) J -- why linux? because MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP. ...also, you are using 'free software' now. It tends to suck as much as the stuff that is not free, just in different ways. -Carol S Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 09:34, Julie Sloan wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: http://pricewatch.com and search for external 56k modem and you will find a list of places that are currently selling a cendyne external serial modem for around $17 US. Granted, that is not a top of the line modem, but it uses an equivalent chipset to a Zoom external serial modem version that costs about $60. If you currently have a winmodem (crapmodem) and have always wanted to have a real honest to goodness external serial modem but are financially challenged, you might want to consider it. Eeee - what about those of us that are financially challenged AND are operating on only a checkbook (not a charge card)? I'm *still* waiting for a linux book I ordered from Amazon - which should arrive on July 19th. Wonder did they mean 2005? (sorry - veered way OT) J Believe methis is *not* OT yet. ;) LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
simon wrote: On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote: The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the linuxant site into the window$ partition Hi Julie, I have a Conexant modem running on Mdk10. It is an hcf modem and I also downloaded the driver from the Linuxant site. I installed the rpm then as root ran hcfpciconfig which led me through the configuration. (Mandrake Control Centre still doesn't recognise my modem.) I don't know whether this applies to hsf modems, but it may do. Simon. Thanks Simon, I will try that next. J -- why linux? because MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP. ...also, you are using 'free software' now. It tends to suck as much as the stuff that is not free, just in different ways. -Carol S Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
simon wrote: On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote: now in GUI... in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as unknown device. in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem, it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default). HTH. Simon. ok, cringe where do I find the KPPP? J -- why linux? because MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP. ...also, you are using 'free software' now. It tends to suck as much as the stuff that is not free, just in different ways. -Carol S Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
On Friday 06 August 2004 08:44, Julie Sloan wrote: simon wrote: On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote: now in GUI... in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as unknown device. in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem, it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default). HTH. Simon. ok, cringe where do I find the KPPP? J Issue the following commands as root: slocate -u (wait for completion) As root or user: locate kppp If it doesnt show up, then as root: urpmi kppp -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux user #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
On Friday 06 August 2004 09:28 am, Julie Sloan wrote: I gather serial vs USB is the keyword here? (sorry - I'm *completely* ignorant. People probably wonder why I'm not on AOL :)) Serial as in, connects to the computer serial port which is the more traditional port for analog modem communications. USB is newer and not as likely to be as well supported under Linux. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
On Friday 06 August 2004 15:44, Julie Sloan wrote: simon wrote: On Friday 06 Aug 2004 04:33, Julie Sloan wrote: now in GUI... in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as unknown device. in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc Julie, as the Mandrake Control Centre didn't recognise my hcf modem, it would not configure my internet connection properly. I used Kppp dialer instead and manually configured (most settings are default). HTH. Simon. ok, cringe where do I find the KPPP? J K - internet - remote access - KPPP . If it's not installed you must install the kdenetwork-kppp rpm. You can install it as root with 'urpmi kdenetwork-kppp' or use the software install GUI. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
simon wrote: I installed the rpm then as root ran hcfpciconfig Julie, as your modem is an hsf type you might have to run hsfpciconfig, not the hcfpciconfig that was for my hcf type modem. Simon. -- Registered Linux user number 359744. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
Hi - my first post to this forum. I've been trying to inhale all the information out there and so far have made it through just a few of the info man pages. I'm on mandrake 10.0 official, got both KDE and Gnome running (but trying to make this work from the KDE GUI) dual booting with WinXP The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the linuxant site into the window$ partition in my /etc/fstab there's already this line: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 and I can peek into the windoze partition from KDE in terminal I copied the driver into a disposable directory, cd'd into the directory with it and did: rpm -iv hsfverylongfilename.rpm now in GUI... in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as unknown device. in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc now get this: I got a handshake, then an error message (The system doesn't seem to be connected to the internet. Try to reconfigure your connection). so I took the @mindspring.com off my login (what the hey, it's helped in netscape) and now I don't even get a handshake. And the same error message. Put the login back as it was and *still* get no handshake. Fooled around with the authentication because I have no idea if I need PAP/CHAP (the default) or script based or what, and when I have it set to CHAP I once again get a handshake ...and the error message. Can anyone see where I'm screwing up? thanks Julie -- why linux? because MS is to OS as AOL is to ISP. ...also, you are using 'free software' now. It tends to suck as much as the stuff that is not free, just in different ways. -Carol S Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
