Re: [newbie] apache on 2nd machine?
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 14:50, Jerry wrote: OK, I'm hoping this is possible Main computer: windows 98se with ICS 2nd computer: Mandrake 9.0 Connection: Main: 2 NIC's. one to the cable modem (no router) and one to connect via crossover cable to the 2nd box 2nd: 1 NIC connected via crossover cable to the main computer. Objective: to run apache from the 2nd computer not just on the local network but also on the internet. Other info: using a dynamic DNS service from no-ip.com, using their update program for linux machines on the 2nd computer it resolves (i think it's resolving it... it doesn't give much output) to the main computer's IP (that of the cable modem) can this be done? If not, are my only options to either run the webserver from the main computer (keeping existing network hardware), buy a router and connect both computers to IT then to the cable modem, or pay the cable co. the extra 6 bucks a month and get a 2nd IP for the 2nd computer. Some possible problems: 2nd computer has no room for another ISA ethernet card (don't even know if i could still get one) and I cannot for the life of me get any of the PCI slots to work with the 2nd (pci) NIC out of the other computer (which dual boots to mandrake and works FABULOUSLY) to work with the 2nd computer and mandrake. In fact, i can't even get the soundcard (opl3-sa1) card in the other isa slot to work (still trying to figure that one out). If i could, I'd just switch the computers places in the network. Main computer is the one my other half uses and refuses to use linux because WinMX won't run on it. In fact if I don't reboot it into Windows when I'm done with it she just hits the reset button on it (grr) and boots windows. Thanks in advance for any help :) You guys are the greatest. Jerry Why not put the linux box in front of the Windows box instead? Easier and faster...and, you can use the built-in firewalling - as well as setting it up as your own internal email server, ftp server, web server, gopher server, IRC server, nntp server, jabber server, vpn server, database server...etc etc etc... When I had cable (back in Garland, Tx), I put my lowly little Slackware 3.6 box in front of the rest of the network and used ipchains to allow access to the rest...that was in '98...worked like a charm. Was able to access my home network from where ever I was, as well as have access for my buddies and workmates... -- Thu Dec 19 07:40:00 EST 2002 7:40am up 1:07, 3 users, load average: 0.69, 0.42, 0.36 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn The lawgiver, of all beings, most owes the law allegiance. He of all men should behave as though the law compelled him. But it is the universal weakness of mankind that what we are given to administer we presently imagine we own. -- H.G. Wells Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apache on 2nd machine?
Stephen: Thx for the feedback. I'd love to do that but. I can't get a pci ethernet card to work on the 2nd puter and the ISA slots are full. Windows has to be on the main machine since my girlfried has put in half the money for it (including the new 17 monitor) and she won't hear of it if i were to try and get her to use the little puter with only a 3gig hard drive and old hardware plus a sound card that doesn't want to work. If she wasn't so smart i'd just delete the windows partition on the main box and say OOPS honey, there's something wrong with the main computer! windows won't boot! But as she is she'd know exactly what I did LOL. (no i wouldn't really do that... hehehe) So.. is it possible to set this up or do you think i'm going to have to get this machine it's own IP with att? Thanks :-) Jerry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apache on 2nd machine?
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 18:32, Jerry wrote: Stephen: Thx for the feedback. I'd love to do that but. I can't get a pci ethernet card to work on the 2nd puter and the ISA slots are full. Windows has to be on the main machine since my girlfried has put in half the money for it (including the new 17 monitor) and she won't hear of it if i were to try and get her to use the little puter with only a 3gig hard drive and old hardware plus a sound card that doesn't want to work. If she wasn't so smart i'd just delete the windows partition on the main box and say OOPS honey, there's something wrong with the main computer! windows won't boot! But as she is she'd know exactly what I did LOL. (no i wouldn't really do that... hehehe) So.. is it possible to set this up or do you think i'm going to have to get this machine it's own IP with att? Thanks :-) Jerry. It would probably be better and overall more efficient (and less hassle) to get an IP for the linux box...sorry to say...and I used to hate giving ATT anymore money than they deserved... ...can't ya just slap her around a bit and make her see the light as it were? (g) -- Thu Dec 19 08:55:00 EST 2002 8:55am up 2:22, 4 users, load average: 0.46, 0.25, 0.15 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn To understand this important story, you have to understand how the telephone company works. Your telephone is connected to a local computer, which is in turn connected to a regional computer, which is in turn connected to a loudspeaker the size of a garbage truck on the lawn of Edna A. Bargewater of Lawrence, Kan. Whenever you talk on the phone, your local computer listens in. If it suspects you're going to discuss an intimate topic, it notifies the computer above it, which listens in and decides whether to alert the one above it, until finally, if you really humiliate yourself, maybe break down in tears and tell your closest friend about a sordid incident from your past involving a seedy motel, a neighbor's spouse, an entire religious order, a garden hose and six quarts of tapioca pudding, the top computer feeds your conversation into Edna's loudspeaker, and she and her friends come out on the porch to listen and drink gin and laugh themselves silly. -- Dave Barry, Won't It Be Just Great Owning Our Own Phones? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apache on 2nd machine?
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 14:50, Jerry wrote: OK, I'm hoping this is possible Main computer: windows 98se with ICS 2nd computer: Mandrake 9.0 Connection: Main: 2 NIC's. one to the cable modem (no router) and one to connect via crossover cable to the 2nd box 2nd: 1 NIC connected via crossover cable to the main computer. Objective: to run apache from the 2nd computer not just on the local network but also on the internet. Other info: using a dynamic DNS service from no-ip.com, using their update program for linux machines on the 2nd computer it resolves (i think it's resolving it... it doesn't give much output) to the main computer's IP (that of the cable modem) can this be done? You will need to set up port forwarding on your Windows computer. If you port forward port 80 on the main computer to port 80 on the 2nd computer, all http requests will be transparently forwarded to the 2nd computer. A bit of Googling found a free app to help configure port forwarding with ICS on Win98: http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsconfiguration.htm Let us know how you go. Regards, John... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] apache on 2nd machine?
Now wait a minute. She won't have to use the 'little puter.' As a matter of fact, if your going to have the little puter be the server, she should stay off of it! ;-) The ISA slot shortage can be solved by removing the sound card. The server won't need it and you'll have a slot for the new nic (if you can find a 'new' ISA nic!). I haven't finished configuring my old pos as a server yet but certainly isn't the hottest machine I have around. All I need it to do is host a small web site, serve network files and share it's cd burner. Anyone who wants to do real work can just hop on the Pentium II (can you tell I need some new systems?) and use their favorite (linux) apps with access to the internet as well. Summary then -- old puter has cdrom, cd burner, network nic, internet nic and needs a bigger hard drive. I'm thinking about putting the color printer up there but can't decide if it will be more convenient or not at this point. Bottom line -- 'Gosh honey, I love you so much I want you to use your Windows machine -- someplace where guests won't see it. :-)) R - Richard L. Babcock, Owner Tower Training At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You! www.towertraining.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] apache on 2nd machine? Stephen: Thx for the feedback. I'd love to do that but. I can't get a pci ethernet card to work on the 2nd puter and the ISA slots are full. Windows has to be on the main machine since my girlfried has put in half the money for it (including the new 17 monitor) and she won't hear of it if i were to try and get her to use the little puter with only a 3gig hard drive and old hardware plus a sound card that doesn't want to work. If she wasn't so smart i'd just delete the windows partition on the main box and say OOPS honey, there's something wrong with the main computer! windows won't boot! But as she is she'd know exactly what I did LOL. (no i wouldn't really do that... hehehe) So.. is it possible to set this up or do you think i'm going to have to get this machine it's own IP with att? Thanks :-) Jerry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
