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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nfc-l] Thursday: Night Flight in Northeast

2014-09-22 Thread Kenneth V. Rosenberg

Andrew et al.,

I am by no means the expert here, and hopefully Andrew Farnsworth will chime in 
with any comments or suggestions, but basically all I do is listen in real time 
and count all the birds I can hear and identify. I don’t have a recording 
set-up at present. I’m fairly confident with many of the identifications but 
not with others — I use a lot of warbler sp. and sparrow sp.  I feel I can 
usually estimate number of individual birds passing pretty easily based on the 
timing and position of the calling birds in the sky — where I am there are no 
lights and the birds pass over in a consistent direction, with most individuals 
calling only once or twice within my range of hearing. During heavy flights or 
dense pulses of calling activity, I just do my best to keep track of 
individuals, and sometimes will estimate the ratio of species identified during 
a given period and apply that to the number I’m estimating — functionally this 
isn’t any different from how I would estimate large flocks of ducks or 
shorebirds or migrating hawks.  I’m sure there’s a certain amount of error, but 
not greater than for most other kinds of birding.

Because I use BirdLog, I can easily tally the numbers as I go, but that also 
means I need to remember to change the protocol to NFC after the checklist is 
entered. (I believe BirdLog will eventually be able to record the NFC protocol, 
but I don’t know the timing on that).

Hope this is helpful,

KEN


Kenneth V. Rosenberg
Conservation Science Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
Office: 607-254-2412
cell: 607-342-4594
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Andrew Albright 
mailto:andrew.albri...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ken (and Chris*),

I have a different interpretation of the ebird NFC rules/guideliness than the 
Montgomery county (Pennsylvania) ebird compiler for listening live (cc'd here).
http://help.ebird.org/customer/portal/articles/1010492.

It might be easier to just see an example of how you are logging your night 
flight calls into ebird because I think we are doing approximately the same 
activity - listening live and recording nfc that we can ID?  I checked "Recent 
Sightings" from Thompkins Co, NY and the only one example in  that I could find 
doesn't seem to fit guidelines

Other questions/improvement suggestings
1) I brought up the question before about the species that you could 
conclusively identify as being separable, either partially or entirably. Even 
if it were not 100% agreed upon, I think it would be good if there were a 
standard that was used for nfc data entry, e.g. only those fields appear.   
This would make data entry more standard, easier and provide a good starting 
point for a more detailed discussion.

2) It would be nice to provide a "cliff note" version of the instructions.  The 
weblink has quite a bit of information which could be broken down into 
background information and actionable instructions.

3) It would be good to push to have the smartphone app upgraded to enable more 
functionality that includes easy logging of the NFC protocol.

Sincerely,
Andrew Albright


*Chris - If I recall, sometimes you post here that you listen live and 
sometimes you review remote recordings?



On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Kenneth V. Rosenberg 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Just had about 200 thrushes (mostly Swainsons but also many Gray-cheeked and 
Wood Thrush) over my house in Northeast Ithaca in a 45 min count - also 12 
Green Herons and an Am Bittern

Ken

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" 
mailto:c...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Just a heads-up about a potential push of birds into this area overnight 
tonight...

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" 
mailto:c...@cornell.edu>>
Subject: [nfc-l] Thursday: Night Flight in Northeast
Date: September 18, 2014 at 9:38:18 PM EDT
To: NFC-L mailto:nf...@list.cornell.edu>>
Reply-To: "Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" 
mailto:c...@cornell.edu>>

There is currently a fairly heavy liftoff going on in the Northeast and 
surrounding regions. The high pressure system situated North of Lake Ontario 
could make for a good push of birds down into the Northeast overnight tonight.

If you can, keep your ears skyward!

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

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Re: [nfc-l] Buzz call over western Pennsylvania

2014-09-22 Thread Michael O'Brien

Geoff et al,

To my ear, this sounds like the buzzy variation of Rose-breasted Grosbeak that 
is often given in fall (perhaps by immatures?). It has more of a liquid 
quality, and maybe a bit more of a rising inflection than is typical of 
Dickcissel. There are good examples of this call on the Evans & O'Brien CD-Rom. 

Good listening,
Michael O'Brien

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www.ventbird.com

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:10 AM, "Geoff Malosh"  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I heard the attached buzz-type call on the morning of Sept 19 during the very 
> large flight over the Pittsburgh suburbs I posted about a few days ago. My 
> first thought was Dickcissel when I heard in real time it but a few people 
> have commented that it doesn’t sound exactly right in the attached recording, 
> which is true. Northern Rough-winged Swallow was the other immediate thought 
> . . . any other possibilities?
>  
> The call in question is at 2.6 seconds into the clip. The same or a different 
> bird sounds like it calls a few tenths of a second before that. Thanks for 
> any comments.
>  
> Geoff Malosh
> Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
>  
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Re: [nfc-l] Buzz call over western Pennsylvania

2014-09-22 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes

Just a quick note. I'd concur that this is likely a Dickcissel. It falls in the 
right frequency bounds for Dickcissel. It seems to have a few more "p's" in 
that "fpppt" call than we might expect for Dickcissel. It's quality is not one 
of musicality, which we might expect for a call with fully modulated and 
inter-connected parts. The disconnected nature (lack of modulation) in 
Dickcissel call is what seems to give it that "frappy" or flatulent quality. 
Someone once described the call as similar in quality to a piece of the sound 
kids use to make when the placed baseball cards in their bike spokes and rode 
around the neighborhood. Kids don't do that anymore, but I can envision this 
sound in my memory.

I recorded a couple of Dickcissels during last weekend's movement of birds. 
Will post at a later time.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H


On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Jay K 
mailto:azure@earthlink.net>> wrote:


Geoff,



Good recording - almost TOO good.  I think it sounds right for Dickcissel, but 
perhaps what has folks concerned is that it almost echoes in the recording, but 
probably in life it was the short, flat, almost truncated "fpppt" to which 
we're accustomed.  The only other bird I could think of that would be similar 
would be Blue Grosbeak, but it isn't "musical" enough, nor does it have the 
slight variance in pitch that that species exhibits.



Jay Keller,

San Diego, CA

-Original Message-
From: Geoff Malosh
Sent: Sep 21, 2014 9:10 PM
To: NFC-L
Subject: [nfc-l] Buzz call over western Pennsylvania


Hi all,

I heard the attached buzz-type call on the morning of Sept 19 during the very 
large flight over the Pittsburgh suburbs I posted about a few days ago. My 
first thought was Dickcissel when I heard in real time it but a few people have 
commented that it doesn’t sound exactly right in the attached recording, which 
is true. Northern Rough-winged Swallow was the other immediate thought . . . 
any other possibilities?

The call in question is at 2.6 seconds into the clip. The same or a different 
bird sounds like it calls a few tenths of a second before that. Thanks for any 
comments.

Geoff Malosh
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nfc-l] Thursday: Night Flight in Northeast

2014-09-22 Thread Andrew Albright

Ken (and Chris*),

I have a different interpretation of the ebird NFC rules/guideliness than
the Montgomery county (Pennsylvania) ebird compiler for listening live
(cc'd here).
http://help.ebird.org/customer/portal/articles/1010492.

It might be easier to just see an example of how you are logging your night
flight calls into ebird because I think we are doing approximately the same
activity - listening live and recording nfc that we can ID?  I checked
"Recent Sightings" from Thompkins Co, NY and the only one example in  that
I could find doesn't seem to fit guidelines

*Other questions/improvement suggestings*
1) I brought up the question before about the species that you could
conclusively identify as being separable, either partially or
entirably. Even if it were not 100% agreed upon, I think it would be good
if there were a standard that was used for nfc data entry, e.g. only those
fields appear.   This would make data entry more standard, easier and
provide a good starting point for a more detailed discussion.

2) It would be nice to provide a "cliff note" version of the instructions.
The weblink has quite a bit of information which could be broken down into
background information and actionable instructions.

3) It would be good to push to have the smartphone app upgraded to enable
more functionality that includes easy logging of the NFC protocol.

Sincerely,
Andrew Albright

*Chris - If I recall, sometimes you post here that you listen live and
sometimes you review remote recordings?

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Kenneth V. Rosenberg 
wrote:

>  Just had about 200 thrushes (mostly Swainsons but also many Gray-cheeked
> and Wood Thrush) over my house in Northeast Ithaca in a 45 min count - also
> 12 Green Herons and an Am Bittern
>
> Ken
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" <
> c...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>  Just a heads-up about a potential push of birds into this area overnight
> tonight...
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>  *From: *"Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" 
> *Subject: **[nfc-l] Thursday: Night Flight in Northeast*
> *Date: *September 18, 2014 at 9:38:18 PM EDT
> *To: *NFC-L 
> *Reply-To: *"Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" 
>
>  There is currently a fairly heavy liftoff going on in the Northeast and
> surrounding regions. The high pressure system situated North of Lake
> Ontario could make for a good push of birds down into the Northeast
> overnight tonight.
>
> If you can, keep your ears skyward!
>
> Sincerely,
> Chris T-H
>
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[nfc-l] Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] Shorebird Vocalizations

2014-09-22 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes

Thought some on NFC-L might appreciate Andrew Spencer's blog, as mentioned in a 
post to Cayugabirds-L by Bob McGuire. The specific blog archive to which Bob 
references below is here: http://earbirding.com/blog/archives/4800

Good Night Listening!

Sincerely,
Chris T-H (Sitting in the DTW airport waiting for our return flight to Ithaca).

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From: bob mcguire 
mailto:bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com>>
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Shorebird Vocalizations
Date: September 22, 2014 7:21:43 PM CDT
To: cayugabirdlist mailto:cayugabird...@cornell.edu>>
Reply-To: bob mcguire 
mailto:bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com>>

Having spent quite a bit of time in the past few weeks watching shorebirds at 
Knox-Marsellus Marsh, I've come to think of them as silent feeders - except for 
an occasional yellowlegs call or perhaps a flyover plover. But I just came 
across Andrew Spencer's blog on some shorebirds that breed in Alaska, with 
examples of their remarkable songs and calls. It has opened a whole new window 
on shorebirds for me. Here is the link. See what you think. 
http://earbirding.com/blog/

Bob McGuire
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