Re: [nfc-l] Common August to Early September NFC

2012-09-20 Thread Wil Hershberger 
Perhaps a java based web app that would help to ID calls would be better yet. 
Interesting idea.
There was a good flight here in eastern WV last night. I haven't had a chance 
to look at any data yet.


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On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Dan Poalillo wrote:

> As one of the 'beginners' here I greatly appreciate the recent posts from 
> Chris and Andrew.  As I expressed to Chris recently, as a beginner with poor 
> recording equipment its often challenging to know whether I have made the 
> correct ID or if there is another species or group I hadn't even considered 
> that sounds or 'looks' the same.  Having a list of very similar and somewhat 
> similar species would be very helpful.  The information to that effect on the 
> Evans/O'brien CD has been invaluable for me--THANKS!  I also think Andrew's 
> idea of occasionally posting samples sans identify for beginners to test out 
> their skills on is a great idea.
> 
> I wonder also if some of us with better coding skills and a library of 
> recordings could assemble a 'thumbnail' style database of spectrograms. This 
> would allow beginners to more easily compare the different calls visually.  
> Even better might be a database searchable by characteristics.  For example, 
> the user inputs the duration, frequency and/or other characteristics (buzzy, 
> descending, etc) and the program produces a list of possible candidates.  A 
> tool like this would make this emerging science a bit more accessible to the 
> novice (and would make it possible for me to introduce the subject to my high 
> school students in a way that would not completely overwhelm them).
> 
> Dan Poalillo
> Northern NJ
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Re: [nfc-l] Common August to Early September NFC

2012-09-20 Thread Dan Poalillo 
As one of the 'beginners' here I greatly appreciate the recent posts from
Chris and Andrew.  As I expressed to Chris recently, as a beginner with
poor recording equipment its often challenging to know whether I have made
the correct ID or if there is another species or group I hadn't even
considered that sounds or 'looks' the same.  Having a list of very similar
and somewhat similar species would be very helpful.  The information to
that effect on the Evans/O'brien CD has been invaluable for me--THANKS!  I
also think Andrew's idea of occasionally posting samples sans identify for
beginners to test out their skills on is a great idea.

I wonder also if some of us with better coding skills and a library of
recordings could assemble a 'thumbnail' style database of spectrograms.
This would allow beginners to more easily compare the different calls
visually.  Even better might be a database searchable by characteristics.
For example, the user inputs the duration, frequency and/or other
characteristics (buzzy, descending, etc) and the program produces a list of
possible candidates.  A tool like this would make this emerging science a
bit more accessible to the novice (and would make it possible for me to
introduce the subject to my high school students in a way that would not
completely overwhelm them).

Dan Poalillo
Northern NJ

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Re: [nfc-l] Common August to Early September NFC

2012-09-20 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
Perhaps, better yet, might be for people to contribute known NFC's whenever 
they can and, on top of that, to pull together a periodic NFC quiz, similar to 
the ABA Online Bird Photo Quizzes.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Andrew Albright wrote:

I'd add that it would be interesting if people want to post nfc's for
beginners to identify, to do so for 1-2 days without providing
identfication.  Then the beginner can try to figure it out and after
1-2 days the experienced nfc'er can indicate what the species is.

Also, is the list of birds in table 1
(http://birds.cornell.edu/pifcapemay/evans_rosenberg.htm) the commonly
agreed-upon list of distinguishable (from each other) night flight
calls? And is a distinction made between being able to do this by
ear versus needing to look at a spectrogram?

If we take thrushes for example, it seems that we've discussed the
possibility of some overlap between Gray Cheeked and Bicknells.  It
would be helpful for a beginner to know when to try to figure out a
call and when to categorize it as "not identifiable" or it could be
one of a few species.

Sincerely,
Andrew


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
mailto:c...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Good evening!

On this slow evening in the Northeast, I am getting caught up on some night
recording data from past nights. Members on the NFC-L eList community may be
most interested in unusual or uncommon species, or perhaps after interesting
trends of more commons species, or are simply here to soak up more knowledge
of this new-found aspect of ornithology.

I thought I'd take a moment to post a more common sound of night migration
on good nights in August through early September. This Veery was recorded
calling at 12:23pm, on 22 August 2012. I cleaned up some of the cricket
chirps to make for a slightly cleaner recording. This was a surprisingly low
flying and loud migrant for the time of night, perhaps due to a low cloud
ceiling.

I'll see what I can do about posting some more good examples of other known
species; I encourage others to try and follow suit, because there are
several beginning or out-of-your-region night flight call listeners on this
eList.

Thanks and good night listening!

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

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Re: [nfc-l] Common August to Early September NFC

2012-09-20 Thread Andrew Albright 
I'd add that it would be interesting if people want to post nfc's for
beginners to identify, to do so for 1-2 days without providing
identfication.  Then the beginner can try to figure it out and after
1-2 days the experienced nfc'er can indicate what the species is.

Also, is the list of birds in table 1
(http://birds.cornell.edu/pifcapemay/evans_rosenberg.htm) the commonly
agreed-upon list of distinguishable (from each other) night flight
calls? And is a distinction made between being able to do this by
ear versus needing to look at a spectrogram?

If we take thrushes for example, it seems that we've discussed the
possibility of some overlap between Gray Cheeked and Bicknells.  It
would be helpful for a beginner to know when to try to figure out a
call and when to categorize it as "not identifiable" or it could be
one of a few species.

Sincerely,
Andrew


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
 wrote:
> Good evening!
>
> On this slow evening in the Northeast, I am getting caught up on some night
> recording data from past nights. Members on the NFC-L eList community may be
> most interested in unusual or uncommon species, or perhaps after interesting
> trends of more commons species, or are simply here to soak up more knowledge
> of this new-found aspect of ornithology.
>
> I thought I'd take a moment to post a more common sound of night migration
> on good nights in August through early September. This Veery was recorded
> calling at 12:23pm, on 22 August 2012. I cleaned up some of the cricket
> chirps to make for a slightly cleaner recording. This was a surprisingly low
> flying and loud migrant for the time of night, perhaps due to a low cloud
> ceiling.
>
> I'll see what I can do about posting some more good examples of other known
> species; I encourage others to try and follow suit, because there are
> several beginning or out-of-your-region night flight call listeners on this
> eList.
>
> Thanks and good night listening!
>
> Sincerely,
> Chris T-H
>
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Re: [nfc-l] Common August to Early September NFC

2012-09-18 Thread Linda Orkin 
Thanks Chris. Loved hearing this. Nice veery sound that I can actually 
recognize. 

Linda Orkin
Ithaca 

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On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:01 PM, "Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" 
 wrote:

> Good evening!
> 
> On this slow evening in the Northeast, I am getting caught up on some night 
> recording data from past nights. Members on the NFC-L eList community may be 
> most interested in unusual or uncommon species, or perhaps after interesting 
> trends of more commons species, or are simply here to soak up more knowledge 
> of this new-found aspect of ornithology.
> 
> I thought I'd take a moment to post a more common sound of night migration on 
> good nights in August through early September. This Veery was recorded 
> calling at 12:23pm, on 22 August 2012. I cleaned up some of the cricket 
> chirps to make for a slightly cleaner recording. This was a surprisingly low 
> flying and loud migrant for the time of night, perhaps due to a low cloud 
> ceiling.
> 
> I'll see what I can do about posting some more good examples of other known 
> species; I encourage others to try and follow suit, because there are several 
> beginning or out-of-your-region night flight call listeners on this eList.
> 
> Thanks and good night listening!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Chris T-H
> 
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Re: [nfc-l] Common August to Early September NFC

2012-09-18 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
Correction...12:23AM. Thanks, Russ!

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes wrote:

Good evening!

On this slow evening in the Northeast, I am getting caught up on some night 
recording data from past nights. Members on the NFC-L eList community may be 
most interested in unusual or uncommon species, or perhaps after interesting 
trends of more commons species, or are simply here to soak up more knowledge of 
this new-found aspect of ornithology.

I thought I'd take a moment to post a more common sound of night migration on 
good nights in August through early September. This Veery was recorded calling 
at 12:23pm, on 22 August 2012. I cleaned up some of the cricket chirps to make 
for a slightly cleaner recording. This was a surprisingly low flying and loud 
migrant for the time of night, perhaps due to a low cloud ceiling.

I'll see what I can do about posting some more good examples of other known 
species; I encourage others to try and follow suit, because there are several 
beginning or out-of-your-region night flight call listeners on this eList.

Thanks and good night listening!

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

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