[Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-12-02 Thread pa_sk8r
For gas prices you can go to: www.gasbuddy.comTo find ethanol free gas there's: www.pure-gas.orgBernie-On 12/02/11, paul annengreenzer...@gmail.com wrote:i never complain about gas prices.. just lookacrossthe pond..On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Pat Patterson p...@hot4x4.ca wrote:Ok using the spread from the closest US gas station to me.91 oct. $3.83/gal x 2.16gal = $ 8.27 / 102 miles ~ 47.2mpg ~ $0.081078 cost per mile.87 oct. $3.63/gal x 2.83gal = $10.27 / 126 miles ~ 44.5mpg ~ $0.081507 cost per mile.Saving 0.0429 cents per mile. Note the decimal. On a 125 mile/tank equalized trip. You save 5.3625 cents per tank on premium.Canada to Mexico down the I5, 1386 miles. For a savings of $0.59 . Round trip you get a free coke ;o)So the math says at least on your bike Prem is the same cost as reg, so any extra benefits from the prem gas are free.For gigglesMy cheap *Canadian* gas station;91 oct. $4.936/gal x 2.16 = $10.66 / 102 miles ~ $0.1045 cost per mile87 oct. $4.406/gal x 2.83 = $12.47 / 126 miles ~ $0.0989 cost per mileCosting me an extra 0.56 cents per mile. to use prem. But my reg to your prem costs me an extra 1.78 cents per mile. @ 125 mile tank = $2.23 per tank.rantThink about that next time someone suggests you have high gas prices. Oh and Mexico if done on Canadian gas, $24 extra. 2 free tanks using US gas. And Canadian tourist traps wonder why Canadians travel south instead of north/east/west. That's based on a 47mpg bike not my 9mpg RV./rantAt 05:10 AM 12/2/2011, you wrote:Over the past two days102m for 2.16 g : 47.2 (on 91 grade)126m for 2.83 g : 44.52 (on regular gas)On Nov 30, 7:55 am, marcel cerdan voixdepa...@gmail.com wrote: 126 miles... 2.64 gallons : 47.7 mpg today On Nov 28, 7:30 am, marcel cerdan voixdepa...@gmail.com wrote:  Ok the rain finally stopped and first result is actually not what I  expected :  116.4 miles with 2.42 gallon : 48 mpg  On a 1/3 highway at 75mph (although the speedometer says 65) and two  third on a stop and go road 1 to 2 lanes, usually between 35 and 70  mph.  Filled up again... Next fill up wednesday (rain tomorrow )  On Nov 17, 8:21 am, marcel cerdan voixdepa...@gmail.com wrote:   I'll post the results... for now I'm pin down by rain in NJ.   I do 140 miles commute everyday so It comes down to basically one tank   a day... I don't mind reasonable cold (30) but I avoid rain (mostly   because of NJ drivers who think rain is something like ice and snow or   just the sky falling on their heads !)   Next week is supposed to be nice and cold... :-)   Will keep you posted.   On Nov 16, 3:47 pm, James O'Gorman aspor...@gmail.com wrote:I would be interested to see the numbers once you have 8 tanks of premium.Could you post them when you have them?I've got the last 30,000 miles logged for my car and the biggest differencewas driving style, not octane.--You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group.To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.Pat PattersonAbbotsford, BC, Canada2001 PT Cruiser83 450 Honda Nighthawk78 F350  460/C6 on propane71 Bronco 302/C4/D20 D44/9Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to know why I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved.If you can't take the heat, don't tickle the dragon.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group.To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group.To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.



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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-17 Thread Pat Patterson

At 12:47 PM 11/16/2011, you wrote:

I would be interested to see the numbers once you have 8 tanks of premium.
Could you post them when you have them?

I've got the last 30,000 miles logged for my car and the biggest 
difference was driving style, not octane.


I've logged every vehicle I've ever owned since first purchase. The 
only time octane can make a difference is if you have the compression 
to make use of it. One of my pickup's has 10.5:1 compression. I pick 
up enough MPG on 94 over 87 to make up the difference in price (most 
of the time anyway).


What is the compression ratio on a NH? specifically an 83 450 ;o)


Pat Patterson
Abbotsford, BC, Canada


2001 PT Cruiser
83 450 Honda Nighthawk
78 F350460/C6 on propane
71 Bronco 302/C4/D20 D44/9


Some people try to turn back their odometers.  Not me, I want people 
to know why I look this way.  I've traveled a long way and some of 
the roads weren't paved.


If you can't take the heat, don't tickle the dragon.













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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-17 Thread Allen Thomas
I think most air cooled bikes are in the 8 - 9 range due to the higher 
probability of pre-ignition.
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At 12:47 PM 11/16/2011, you wrote:
I would be interested to see the numbers once you have 8 tanks of premium.
Could you post them when you have them?

I've got the last 30,000 miles logged for my car and the biggest 
difference was driving style, not octane.

I've logged every vehicle I've ever owned since first purchase. The 
only time octane can make a difference is if you have the compression 
to make use of it. One of my pickup's has 10.5:1 compression. I pick 
up enough MPG on 94 over 87 to make up the difference in price (most 
of the time anyway).

What is the compression ratio on a NH? specifically an 83 450 ;o)


Pat Patterson
Abbotsford, BC, Canada


2001 PT Cruiser
83 450 Honda Nighthawk
78 F350460/C6 on propane
71 Bronco 302/C4/D20 D44/9


Some people try to turn back their odometers.  Not me, I want people 
to know why I look this way.  I've traveled a long way and some of 
the roads weren't paved.

If you can't take the heat, don't tickle the dragon.













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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-17 Thread jason scott
i run 87 in the summer and 91 in the winter because of the temperature.

On 11/16/11, marcel cerdan voixdepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I have reviewed other posts on the board regarding Gas to use, and
 benefits.

 Being a recent Nighthawk owner (85 650), I did the first 8 fills on
 regular, like my good old CX500c, and was getting 44-46 mpg...
 Then I read that some members have experienced drastic differences
 with good quality premium... so gave it a shot (SUNOCO) and whouaou...
 there is a real difference. I'm waiting for more mileage to give
 precise numbers but the engine runs much smoother and I'm getting at
 least 10mpg more... Was about to give it a Seafoam shot but no need !

 Now the question for the pros : what are the risks to run either
 (regular or premium) all the time ? (valves, sparks) Any experience to
 share on the matter ? I couldn't find any recommendations in the
 Clymer's guide

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-16 Thread marcel cerdan
So I have reviewed other posts on the board regarding Gas to use, and
benefits.

Being a recent Nighthawk owner (85 650), I did the first 8 fills on
regular, like my good old CX500c, and was getting 44-46 mpg...
Then I read that some members have experienced drastic differences
with good quality premium... so gave it a shot (SUNOCO) and whouaou...
there is a real difference. I'm waiting for more mileage to give
precise numbers but the engine runs much smoother and I'm getting at
least 10mpg more... Was about to give it a Seafoam shot but no need !

Now the question for the pros : what are the risks to run either
(regular or premium) all the time ? (valves, sparks) Any experience to
share on the matter ? I couldn't find any recommendations in the
Clymer's guide

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-16 Thread Joey Kelley
The manual for my 1982 CB450SC says that a minimum of 91 Octane is
required for proper operation of the bike.
   (I think it was 91 - might have been 90)
   -Joey

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:19 PM, marcel cerdan voixdepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I have reviewed other posts on the board regarding Gas to use, and
 benefits.

 Being a recent Nighthawk owner (85 650), I did the first 8 fills on
 regular, like my good old CX500c, and was getting 44-46 mpg...
 Then I read that some members have experienced drastic differences
 with good quality premium... so gave it a shot (SUNOCO) and whouaou...
 there is a real difference. I'm waiting for more mileage to give
 precise numbers but the engine runs much smoother and I'm getting at
 least 10mpg more... Was about to give it a Seafoam shot but no need !

 Now the question for the pros : what are the risks to run either
 (regular or premium) all the time ? (valves, sparks) Any experience to
 share on the matter ? I couldn't find any recommendations in the
 Clymer's guide

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Of men and Gas

2011-11-16 Thread James O'Gorman
I would be interested to see the numbers once you have 8 tanks of premium.
Could you post them when you have them?

I've got the last 30,000 miles logged for my car and the biggest difference
was driving style, not octane.

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