Re: Comparing languages by their popularity with their Rosetta Code implementation terseness.
It seems your approach is more scientific. Yeah, i am also like to compare programming languages. Its fun.
Re: Recommended GUI library?
Minimalists and license purists go [nuklear](https://github.com/zacharycarter/nuklear-nim).
Re: How to properly use Proxies in Nim
I get the same error message even from `nimble update` and `choosenim` when trying to run over an SSH proxy with `export http_proxy=socks5://0:8123`...
Re: Comparing languages by their popularity with their Rosetta Code implementation terseness.
I'm a big fan of programming language comparisons, and I'm happy to see one trying to measure terseness. I personally would measure terseness by first stripping out comments and empty lines, normalizing all identifier names to same length, and then counting characters weighed by typing effort (ex. 1.0 for lowercase, 1.2 for numbers, 1.4 for uppercase, 1.6 for punctuation, 3.5 for unicode, 5.0 for line break). This would adequately punish $perl, P_H_P, and especially languages that make you type "endnendnend". 😏 But it doesn't make sense to me to graph two totally disconnected things, popularity and terseness, as the X and Y axis of the same graph. It would make more sense to graph two things where there's a trade-off between them, like: * Terseness vs CPU Time * Terseness vs Compile Time * Terseness vs Memory Usage Then you could cluster languages into categories: highest-performance with high-effort, lowest-effort with low-performance, unrewarded verbosity, and the contest to find the language that provides highest maximization of both (which is where Nim would excel). It would also be interesting to compare different popularity rankings against each-other, like [TIOBE](https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/) (which approximates Web content quantity) vs [PyPL](https://pypl.github.io/PYPL.html) (Google Trends) vs [Module Count Growth](https://old.reddit.com/r/nim/comments/dyeklg/nimble_goes_up_to_11_hundred/) vs specific community counts (GitHub [Pull Reqs](https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2019/3) / [Pushes](https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pushes/2019/3) / [Stars](https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/stars/2019/3) / [Issues](https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/issues/2019/3), Reddit headcount, [IRC](https://netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode), StackOverflow, etc). If some of the latter measure early adopter enthusiasm, then that can be used to predict future mainstream popularity growth.
Re: What do you do when the compiler crashes?
For others encountering a similar situation, when commenting out portions of code does not help or running a nim compiler with debugging symbols does not help either, here is what I've done. 1. Searching in [Nim issues](https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+fatal.nim%2839%29+sysFatal) shows that the compiler has become more sensitive to syntax errors lastly. 2. From that, I decided to run it with different versions of the compiler, and using the [Playground](https://playground.nim-lang.org/) does not require you to install many old versions on your computer. I found that version 0.19.6 reported exactly the symbol where the compiler was choking. Correcting it, I was able to switch back to version 1.0.4 and continue correcting the remaining syntax errors.
Re: euwren – a high-level wrapper for the Wren scripting language with a user-friendly DSL
I've been working on this project a lot, and I'm finally able to say it's (almost) feature complete. Since the last release, I have added things like: * name aliasing * enum support * automatic Wren glue code generation * exception handling and much more quality of life improvements. Feel free to check out the [changelog](https://github.com/liquid600pgm/euwren/releases).
Re: What does "cannot be captured as it would violate memory safety" mean?
The variable is sent as a var to a proc where it works fine. But I then in that proc I pass it to another proc and in that one I get the error. I've also tried passing it to the other proc without var (since in that data is only read) but get the same error. Is there an alternative to var that would work?
Re: What does "cannot be captured as it would violate memory safety" mean?
You are probably trying to use a `var` parameter somewhere you shouldn't like a closure.
Re: How to properly use Proxies in Nim
use fiddler or wireshark to debug your setup
What does "cannot be captured as it would violate memory safety" mean?
In some situations I get the error message _" cannot be captured as it would violate memory safety"_. I understand that this means nim is trying to stop me shooting myself in the foot, but is there anywhere I can read an explanation and if it is possible to do what I want without triggering this error?
Re: How to properly use Proxies in Nim
When trying different proxies i get different errors, sometimes it's unable to CONNECT or the connection is refused or i get a ProtocolError. I don't know if it's a configuration thing on the proxy side or if i have to use different methods. If someone has an idea on how to investigate that further, please tell me :)
Re: How to properly use Proxies in Nim
Just a guess but maybe you have to compile with -d:ssl
Best way to learn python?
Hi there! I was directed here as I heard the python community is very helpful from some friends. I hope this is the right place to post, and not on the general python page. Basically at uni, I study physics. My year was the first year to change from MatLab in over a decade. We were told to learn python. We were given very little instruction, told "just Google it", and when asking for help it took OVER AN HOUR with your hand in the air to get a demonstrator to help in the computer labs. As a result, hardly anyone actually understands python or how to use it. I couldn't even do half of a python assignment, and had to settle for a grade D in that submission. I've looked into joining a course over summer, but for 5 days it was £2500! What is a better alternative to learn python? I really need to know it as all my physics labs require graphing, calculations etc to be done in python. Thank you for any advice!
Re: [C backend] On const qualifier again
The C++ spec has 848 occurances of the term "cv", an indicator for the feature's inherent complexity and its viral nature. Quite a price to pay so that your `*const_p = 4` bugs can be detected a little bit earlier in a system that otherwise is not memory safe anyway. So let's not copy bad design.
Re: [C backend] On const qualifier again
OK. To heal this (and other possible) bad design(s) of C/C++, let's use `-w`, and to heal some C++ compilers, let's `define NIM_CONST`.
Re: Recommended GUI library?
OK, thanks. Docs ought to mention that.
Re: Recommended GUI library?
QML depends on Qt which is big (like wx) compared to, say NiGui. Also Qt's mutli-license is a problem for some people.
