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Exactly one month after the release of 1.0.0, it is time for our first patch release: **Nim 1.0.2** This version contains more than 50 fixes since v1.0.0. The list of changes can be seen [here](https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/compare/v1.0.0...v1.0.2).
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That's what brought me here! Nim's announcement of going 1.0.0 showed up on my Google News feed so I took a look... And lo' and behold, this is exactly what I've always been hoping for! A language that combines the elegance of Python, with the safety of Pascal/Ada, and the power/speed of C! I thought it was too good to be true... When browsing through some sample Nim code, I was still hoping I would see := as the assignment operator though... I hope I can find something I can contribute to! :)
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I'm disappointed that 1.0 was released without fixing the deadlock in resizing **threadpoll**. * [https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/11875](https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/11875) * [https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/5212#32697](https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/5212#32697) -> [https://github.com/yglukhov/threadpools](https://github.com/yglukhov/threadpools) (thankfully)
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@jehan: Thanks for the summary on Boehm; thought the disadvantage might be latency, but as you say only a big problem if one does a lot of allocations/deallocations. @Araq: If you are impressed with Boehm (other than if latency is a problem) as compared to the current default, it must be good and it looks like I'll have to try it.
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@Jehan: Recently I've seen Boehm produce the fastest Nim compiler, faster by 10-20% as the Nim compiler is allocation happy. So IME this benchmark can be representative for real-world imperative code.
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> Thank's for the link to your GC benchmarks; They really show how good Boehm > can be. What are Boehm's disadvantages compared to the others? 1. It's a stop-the-world collector, sacrificing latency for throughput. While pause times are still typically only a fraction of a second unless you're using very large heaps, they're still too big for latency-sensitive applications. It can be a perfectly good choice for batch programs, especially parallelized data crunching, or even some interactive applications that aren't too sensitive to latency. 2. It's a fully conservative GC; unlike the native Nim GC options, it does not just scan the stack conservatively, but any object or memory region that may contain pointers. On 32-bit systems in particular, this can lead to problems with memory being retained even though it's inaccessible. While you can in principle configure the Boehm GC so that only the stack is scanned conservatively (as for the Nim GC), this would require quite a bit of work, as you'd have to specify type layout and roots in the way that the Boehm GC expects it. I'll also add (as noted in the readme file) that the performance differences are inflated compared to well-written real world imperative programs. The benchmark does almost nothing but allocating and deallocating memory, while real world imperative programs should at most spend 10%-20% of their time on it. The reason why I wrote the benchmark was not to actually make some universal statement about allocation performance, but to debunk a particularly ignorant article about how GC cannot be competitive with malloc() without incurring massive overhead. For that, I had to construct something of a worst case situation. For most imperative applications where you don't need to tweak performance or need specific GC features, the choice of GC shouldn't matter much, as the bulk of the time will be spent doing non-allocation related work.
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Congratulations to Araq and the Nim community. Wishing Nim language a super success.
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Congratulations Araq and everyone who contributed and for your hard work. Can't wait to learn this language!
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And we produced our first commercial: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8oJUGVbOlQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8oJUGVbOlQ)
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@Araq: Thanks for the update: > we actually have two competing designs and whatever supports async first will > "win". That's news to me. As you know, I've been a convert to the "owned ref's" newruntime. Any quick words on the proposed alternative? Is it a version of automatic reference counting? Yes, perhaps we should revisit the Boehm Garbage Collector... @jehan: > The Boehm GC is also, contrary to popular belief, a very good option... Thank's for the link to your GC benchmarks; They really show how good Boehm can be. What are Boehm's disadvantages compared to the others?
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nice to see that the v1.0 is commented on many websites.. :-) one more : [https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/24/nim_version_1](https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/24/nim_version_1)/
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> If you want a shared heap, `--gc:boehm` is also a very valid, supported > alternative. I wonder why I keep forgetting about `--gc:boehm`. The Boehm GC is also, contrary to popular belief, a very [good option](https://github.com/rbehrends/btree-alloc) for a high throughput stop-the-world GC in general. It has both been pretty heavily tuned in recent years and supports parallel mark and sweep, which also shortens pause times.
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Congratulations. Looking forward to IC.
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Discussion on the Dlang forums: [https://forum.dlang.org/thread/hsvbknmmwgspnkfvf...@forum.dlang.org](https://forum.dlang.org/thread/hsvbknmmwgspnkfvf...@forum.dlang.org)
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> Here is Julia's: > [https://discourse.julialang.org/t/version-1-0-released-of-nim-programming-language/29099/16](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/version-1-0-released-of-nim-programming-language/29099/16) And here we go once again, people who didn't even bother to see how style-insensitivity works in Nim: > Case-insensitivity sounds like a terrible feature, and would break much of my > code. `N` and `n`, `A` and `a`, `i` and `I`. I don't have an account there, so if somebody wishes to reply there, tell @DNF that all these are distinct, as the first character is case sensitive.
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Congratulations. Looking forward to IC.
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Everyday I opened Nim homepage to check whether 1.0 is arrived.
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Finally!! This is really good news. Congrats to Araq and anyone of the devel team.
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It happened!!! Congrats!!! Long life to this wonderful language.
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Awesome! Now I can use Nim in production.
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That's great news! Thanks to all the people involved!
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Congratulations to the entire Nim team. It's about time! Now, when is Nim 2.0 coming out? :-P
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Congrats guys! Nice work :)
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I'd just like to thank all the developers who contributed to this. What stands out for me is the new importjs pragma. Much more intuitive than the importcpp thing. Great work!
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Congratulations! This is an great news!!! Well done!
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> A great day for Nim. (day, when console support got broken even more than > ever) Worked for us and was tested on three different terminals... ;-)
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Great day for all of us that love Nim! And the big good news for our Nim are yet to come! Cheers to all Nimsters!
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A great day for nim. (day, when console support got broken even more than ever)
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A great day for Nim! Congratulations to Araq and the entire Nim team, fantastic work on a huge milestone!
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Updated the Docker images: [https://cloud.docker.com/u/nimlang/repository/docker/nimlang/nim/tags](https://cloud.docker.com/u/nimlang/repository/docker/nimlang/nim/tags)
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SUCCESS!
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Error: undeclared identifier: 'mode' Hm...
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Very cool, congrats to the Nim team!
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great news, thanks.. !!
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Congratulations! Awesome!
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Congratulations to all Nim's team.
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Awesome news, thanks Araq & dev team!
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Congratulations to all Nim developers and supporters ! This is Extremely Awesome ! I wrote japanese post about this fantastic release in my joy :) [https://qiita.com/pianopia/items/dcc70f02293e55969e3d](https://qiita.com/pianopia/items/dcc70f02293e55969e3d)
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Congratulations to Araq and the team for this epic achievement. Posting in this thread for posterity's sake. ;-)
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Thanks
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Congratulations to the devel team!
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This is fantastic news, congratulations to the dev team. You guys are amazing.
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This is a great day for Nim. Many thanks to the development team.
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Congratulations to all Nim developers! So happy that 1.0 is finally here. I'd also like to thank the community for being such a warm welcoming group. You're all awesome :)
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Congratulations to all Nim developers on 1.0 release. This is simply amazing.
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Thank you everyone for Nim 1.0. This is great! Awesome! Fantastic!
