[Nix-dev] FOSDEM: any plans for Saturday evening?

2014-01-22 Thread Cillian de Róiste
Hi,

Since there will be quite a few NixOS and Guix folks at FOSDEM it would be
great to meet up. Is there some interest in arranging dinner / drinks on
Saturday evening?

Cheers,
Cillian
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Re: [Nix-dev] FOSDEM: any plans for Saturday evening?

2014-01-22 Thread Domen Kožar
Count me in.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Cillian de Róiste 
cillian.deroi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Since there will be quite a few NixOS and Guix folks at FOSDEM it would be
 great to meet up. Is there some interest in arranging dinner / drinks on
 Saturday evening?

 Cheers,
 Cillian

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Re: [Nix-dev] FOSDEM: any plans for Saturday evening?

2014-01-22 Thread Oliver Charles
Cillian de Róiste cillian.deroi...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi,

 Since there will be quite a few NixOS and Guix folks at FOSDEM it would be
 great to meet up. Is there some interest in arranging dinner / drinks on
 Saturday evening?

I'd love this! Just out of interest, which of us will be going?

- ocharles
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Re: [Nix-dev] hydra admins: please take care of i686 GHC out of memory issues

2014-01-22 Thread Peter Simons
Hi guys,

I am confused. According to [1] we've had a working GHC build for Linux/i686
in evaluations 8394199 and 8396207 -- immediately after the stdenv-updates
merge. Then Hydra ran a third build, [2], and that ended up being a cached
failure. Yet, there were no failed builds since the stdenv merger! How is
that possible?

Am I missing something?

Take care,
Peter


[1] http://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/haskellPackages.ghc.i686-linux
[2] http://hydra.nixos.org/build/8427824

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[Nix-dev] New problem with nixops and virtualbox

2014-01-22 Thread Marco Maggesi
Hi,

after an update (nixos-13.10 and nixops 1.2) and a complete cleanup
(including rm -rf ~/.nixops ~/.VirtualBox ~/Virtualbox\ VMs)
I get the following error during deployment:

$ nixops deploy
webserver creating VirtualBox VM...
webserver VBoxManage: error: Guest OS type 'Linux_64' is invalid
webserver VBoxManage: error: Details: code VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND
(0x80bb0001), component VirtualBox, interface IVirtualBox, callee
nsISupports
webserver VBoxManage: error: Context:
CreateMachine(bstrSettingsFile.raw(), bstrName.raw(),
ComSafeArrayAsInParam(groups), bstrOsTypeId.raw(), createFlags.raw(),
machine.asOutParam()) at line 277 of file VBoxManageMisc.cpp
error: command ‘['VBoxManage', 'createvm', '--name',
'nixops-b3edfc80-8367-11e3-8b40-d792b12c0a28-webserver', '--ostype',
'Linux_64', '--register']’ failed on machine ‘webserver’ (exit code 1

$ uname -a
Linux o0dom0 3.4.76 #1-NixOS SMP Fri Jan 17 20:16:26 UTC 2014 x86_64
GNU/Linux

As always, all suggestions are welcome,

Marco
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Re: [Nix-dev] New problem with nixops and virtualbox

2014-01-22 Thread Rob Vermaas
Hm, this seems to be related to this change:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixops/commit/e6dfd68cab8a283308cba122d2923faf3c4f05df.
I pushed a change to nixops to fix this.

Cheers,
Rob

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Marco Maggesi magg...@math.unifi.it wrote:
 Hi,

 after an update (nixos-13.10 and nixops 1.2) and a complete cleanup
 (including rm -rf ~/.nixops ~/.VirtualBox ~/Virtualbox\ VMs)
 I get the following error during deployment:

 $ nixops deploy
 webserver creating VirtualBox VM...
 webserver VBoxManage: error: Guest OS type 'Linux_64' is invalid
 webserver VBoxManage: error: Details: code VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND
 (0x80bb0001), component VirtualBox, interface IVirtualBox, callee
 nsISupports
 webserver VBoxManage: error: Context:
 CreateMachine(bstrSettingsFile.raw(), bstrName.raw(),
 ComSafeArrayAsInParam(groups), bstrOsTypeId.raw(), createFlags.raw(),
 machine.asOutParam()) at line 277 of file VBoxManageMisc.cpp
 error: command ‘['VBoxManage', 'createvm', '--name',
 'nixops-b3edfc80-8367-11e3-8b40-d792b12c0a28-webserver', '--ostype',
 'Linux_64', '--register']’ failed on machine ‘webserver’ (exit code 1

 $ uname -a
 Linux o0dom0 3.4.76 #1-NixOS SMP Fri Jan 17 20:16:26 UTC 2014 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 As always, all suggestions are welcome,

 Marco

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Re: [Nix-dev] hydra admins: please take care of i686 GHC out of memory issues

2014-01-22 Thread Gergely Risko
Hi,

I'm just guessing here, but:
  - there are packages, that depend on GHC, e.g. git-annex:
  http://hydra.nixos.org/build/8421542
  - this is the same evaluation, but the build number is smaller.

So what I think is happening:
  - there is package X that build depends on GHC,
  - when package X is built, then GHC is built (and fails),
  - every next GHC try is cached failure (git-annex, ghc-wrapper, etc.).

I don't know how to derive X via the hydra webinterface, but maybe it's
easy for admins with SQL access, I really have no idea.  And my guess is
that once we find package X, that will contain the real (non-cached)
build for GHC in this evaluation.  If you check the hash of the GHC that
is trying to be built, then you will see that it is actually changing
between the success-failure transition, so this would really be a new
one compared to the ones from 21st January.

And about the failures: I've been thinking about this for the last 2-3
days and probably we're just being fooled by randomness.  Before the
stdenv merge, we thought that trunk is failing and stdenv is not, but
actually if you review history, we have 3 different (with different
hash, so not just cached) GHC build tries on trunk, all failed.  But
there are also failed ones on the stdenv trunk, circa 1/2 of the cases.
So having 3 failes in a row is only p=1/8.

Now that stdenv is merged, 2 builds are good and then the third one is
broken.  This can easily be all just random from a random source with
1/2 chance.  I wanted to actually get some statistically significant
evidence this by setting up my local build machine where I can build
10-20 times, but didn't get to it yet.  Maybe with different settings:
lot of parallelism (-j16), then with none (-j1), etc.

In the meantime can we please disable any parallelism during build for
i686 (so no -j passing to any stage of the compiler) and try like that?
Maybe we're just somehow hitting the 4G one process address space limit
with threads or something.

Also, would it too much of a waste of hydra resources to try 10
consecutive builds for _absolutely the same derivation_ and gather
failure/success ratios?

Thanks,
Gergely

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:59:17 +0100, Peter Simons sim...@cryp.to writes:

 Hi guys,

 I am confused. According to [1] we've had a working GHC build for Linux/i686
 in evaluations 8394199 and 8396207 -- immediately after the stdenv-updates
 merge. Then Hydra ran a third build, [2], and that ended up being a cached
 failure. Yet, there were no failed builds since the stdenv merger! How is
 that possible?

 Am I missing something?

 Take care,
 Peter

 [1] http://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/haskellPackages.ghc.i686-linux
 [2] http://hydra.nixos.org/build/8427824

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