[nlug] Re: Building a NAS

2009-04-01 Thread Chris McQuistion
I think you should go with Microsoft Server 2008.  I think their having a
sale, since it is April 1st.


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Andrew Farnsworth farn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, I'll be the first to say it.. I would change the Operating System.

 I would also consider moving up to 1 Tb Drives as you get 50% more space
 for a small price increase.

 Andy


 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:25 AM, eljefemus eljefe...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am currently looking to build a NAS.  This would be a pc that I
 build from scratch and would appreciate any help on this project.  I
 currently put together a list of parts to buy and I was wondering what
 you all thought and what changes you would make.

 COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC
 Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail (I'm choosing the case
 due to 4 3.5 internal drive spaces)

 SUPERMICRO MBD-C2SBC-Q-O LGA 775 Intel Q35 ATX Intel Motherboard -
 Retail (I'm not sure if this is a good mobo, but I like it's
 features:  supports 6 SATA drives, PS2 ports, Video, Raid 0/1/5/10)

 COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-650-ACAA-A1 650W ATX Form Factor 12V
 V2.3 / SSI Standard EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80
 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail  (Not sure about
 this.  This has 8 SATA connects)

 Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
 Model BX80571E5200 - Retail  (Go all purpose dual core processor)

 Patriot Extreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC22G6400ELK -
 Retail  (I would purchase 4GB for this box)

 Western Digital Caviar SE WD800AAJS 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard
 Drive - OEM  (system only drive.  I might consider upping the size of
 this for certain windows based apps, like tagging music and possibly
 using winamp remote to stream to my xbox 360 and PS3)

 3x Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
 Hard Drive - OEM
 (These would be my storage drives setup in a RAID 5)

 LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM  (not much to
 say about this)

 Is there anything that you guys would change?

 This computer would probably be using Windows XP Pro as I already have
 a Windows Server 2003 that's running as a DC, DNS and DHCP




 


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[nlug] Re: Building a NAS

2009-04-01 Thread Russ Crawford

Jim Peterson wrote:
 I'd change the OS from XP Pro to FreeNAS. I've never had to restart mine 
 in the 3 months it's been running, and the backups made to it are 
 perfect every time. Plus, it has the capability to send e-mail alerts 
 when something does go wrong, or if you just want the peace of mind that 
 comes with knowing everything went right. As a bonus, it will also play 
 with/without Active Directory, and is visible in Groundwork. My FreeNAS 
 box is much simpler, being an old web server. It has 3 160GB SATA drives 
 in a RAID 5, a single-core Intel processor, and maybe a gig of memory.
 
 Otherwise, it sounds like your machine should be well more than enough 
 for the task.
 
 Jim Peterson

What about comparisons between OpenFiler and FreeNAS?

Pros  cons?

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[nlug] Re: Building a NAS

2009-04-01 Thread Jim Peterson
I've never played with OpenFiler, so I can't speak to that. Sorry!


On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:08 -0500, Russ Crawford wrote:

 Jim Peterson wrote:
  I'd change the OS from XP Pro to FreeNAS. I've never had to restart mine 
  in the 3 months it's been running, and the backups made to it are 
  perfect every time. Plus, it has the capability to send e-mail alerts 
  when something does go wrong, or if you just want the peace of mind that 
  comes with knowing everything went right. As a bonus, it will also play 
  with/without Active Directory, and is visible in Groundwork. My FreeNAS 
  box is much simpler, being an old web server. It has 3 160GB SATA drives 
  in a RAID 5, a single-core Intel processor, and maybe a gig of memory.
  
  Otherwise, it sounds like your machine should be well more than enough 
  for the task.
  
  Jim Peterson
 
 What about comparisons between OpenFiler and FreeNAS?
 
 Pros  cons?
 
  

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[nlug] Re: Building a NAS

2009-04-01 Thread Kevin Hart
FreeNAS is really cool, but I find it limiting for having a full blown pc
there.  If Im going to have a full bore pc as my NAS (which I do) I run a
full bore OS.  Currently have like Ubuntu server 6.10 on it or something
like that, the last LTS version.  Since its just for here at home its pretty
simple.  I use my router to protect it from the wireless network, then its
basicly open with just a couple of accounts to connect to samba.  I run
stuff like ninan on it as well.  Other than that its any ol' Linux box.  I
use ghetto LVM to span all the drives to one big 1tb share and share that
out as two shares.

If I were going to be building a NAS for a small office I might think of
FreeNAS and its bells and whistles.  Add in some sata hot plug sleds and its
as good as anything else out there.  Then again I did just see a 2.5tb LaCie
setup for ~550 yesterday

--
-Kevin

You can't turn a pig into a thoroughbred,
but if you spend enough time and money,
you sure can make a mighty fast pig


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jim Peterson jim.sokytec...@gmail.comwrote:

  I've never played with OpenFiler, so I can't speak to that. Sorry!



 On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:08 -0500, Russ Crawford wrote:

 Jim Peterson wrote:
  I'd change the OS from XP Pro to FreeNAS. I've never had to restart mine
  in the 3 months it's been running, and the backups made to it are
  perfect every time. Plus, it has the capability to send e-mail alerts
  when something does go wrong, or if you just want the peace of mind that
  comes with knowing everything went right. As a bonus, it will also play
  with/without Active Directory, and is visible in Groundwork. My FreeNAS
  box is much simpler, being an old web server. It has 3 160GB SATA drives
  in a RAID 5, a single-core Intel processor, and maybe a gig of memory.
 
  Otherwise, it sounds like your machine should be well more than enough
  for the task.
 
  Jim Peterson

 What about comparisons between OpenFiler and FreeNAS?

 Pros  cons?




 


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[nlug] Re: Building a NAS

2009-04-01 Thread Jack Coats
For reliability sake...

You might consider two drives and mirror them for your 'system' drives,
where the
NAS client data would be on the raid.  If you go with a hardware raid
controller
that is off MOBO, consider one that will allow raid6, if your budget
allows.  This way
Murphy is less likely to win.  Also, power supplies that allow TWO separate
feeds.
Plug each into separate UPSes, or at least one into a UPS and the second
into
wall (but surge protected) power separate from the UPS.

Yes, the dual feed power supplies are out there, I have used them, but
typically ordered as
part of a 'server' setup.

Since I did mention it above, yes, UPS is important, along with making sure
you
monitor it with appropriate software.

Consider extra temperature controlled fans too.

Redundancy even in the ancillary portions of systems help up the reliability
of the
entire package. ... Just the dual power feed we found important even in a
computer
room because 'tours' (management done, not by techies) cause plugs to be
'accidentally'
kicked and server power removed.  The same for serial, ethernet, and fiber
cables.

Sometimes you can get find power plug holders, both for the plug end and the
power supply end.

IHS ... Jack


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:25 AM, eljefemus eljefe...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am currently looking to build a NAS.  This would be a pc that I
 build from scratch and would appreciate any help on this project.  I
 currently put together a list of parts to buy and I was wondering what
 you all thought and what changes you would make.

 COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC
 Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail (I'm choosing the case
 due to 4 3.5 internal drive spaces)

 SUPERMICRO MBD-C2SBC-Q-O LGA 775 Intel Q35 ATX Intel Motherboard -
 Retail (I'm not sure if this is a good mobo, but I like it's
 features:  supports 6 SATA drives, PS2 ports, Video, Raid 0/1/5/10)

 COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-650-ACAA-A1 650W ATX Form Factor 12V
 V2.3 / SSI Standard EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80
 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail  (Not sure about
 this.  This has 8 SATA connects)

 Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
 Model BX80571E5200 - Retail  (Go all purpose dual core processor)

 Patriot Extreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC22G6400ELK -
 Retail  (I would purchase 4GB for this box)

 Western Digital Caviar SE WD800AAJS 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard
 Drive - OEM  (system only drive.  I might consider upping the size of
 this for certain windows based apps, like tagging music and possibly
 using winamp remote to stream to my xbox 360 and PS3)

 3x Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
 Hard Drive - OEM
 (These would be my storage drives setup in a RAID 5)

 LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM  (not much to
 say about this)

 Is there anything that you guys would change?

 This computer would probably be using Windows XP Pro as I already have
 a Windows Server 2003 that's running as a DC, DNS and DHCP

 


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