Re: format and output all received: lines in an e-mail message

2019-11-22 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 20:51:52 +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso said:

> I prefer people using Mail-Followup-To: instead of some ML
> software modifying the address lists, they could as well just
> avoid resending the mail!?!  Yes, i mean, well.
> I really like looking into old archives and i hope what i see is
> the real original thing, which i think is a value by itself.
> But the world does not seem to cherish this.

A bigger issue is GMail's handling of Message-Id:

If you post to a mailing list, it notes the Message-Id: on the way out,
and when the list sends its copy to you, it gets silently munched by the
duplicate suppressor.  So unless you are careful with Fcc: and have
nmh save a copy in the appropriate folder, your comments in a thread
go poof.


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Re: format and output all received: lines in an e-mail message

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hornstein
>Curiously, the email  you sent me appears to have  never arrived via the
>MLM that nmh-workers uses---I suspect it has one of those fancy features
>that thinks an email that was sent to one address shouldn't be also sent
>to another address (i.e. if the address of the To/Cc recipient is also a
>member  of  the MLM  exclude  one  of  them).

As far as I know our mailing list software (hosted by savannah) does
not have such a feature; I see double-replies of messages and my own
messages sent to me on the mailing list.

--Ken



Re: format and output all received: lines in an e-mail message

2019-11-22 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Andy Bradford wrote in <20191122084003.18170.qmail@angmar.bradfordfamily\
.org>:
 |Thus said Steffen Nurpmeso on Thu, 21 Nov 2019 23:14:29 +0100:
 |> I have heared someone revived qmail  and wants to include some patches
 |> for builtin TLS etc. That sounded very much interesting, especially if
 |> its mailing-list manager would be maintained again!
 |
 |There has been some momentum around  creating a newer version that has a
 |forward path. I imagine there are  still some diehards out there like me
 |who  just continue  to  use  the original  software  (mine is  minimally
 |patched for example) because it "just works."

It was notqmail..  Not touched in a few months.  Well.

 |I  still use  unpatched ezmlm  for  my own  personal uses  for the  same
 |reasons,  though I  have added  an  extra binary;  but the  rest of  the
 |additional things that were added to it I haven't needed.

I was thinking about that when i practically had to move away from
Sourceforge, since Unicode.org used it for many years, and i had
no rememberance of any issue (except seeing never seen From_ quoting
via space not >).  (Not that i remember any issues after their
switch to Mailman.)  I did not dare to go that route by then.

 |Curiously, the email  you sent me appears to have  never arrived via the
 |MLM that nmh-workers uses---I suspect it has one of those fancy features
 |that thinks an email that was sent to one address shouldn't be also sent
 |to another address (i.e. if the address of the To/Cc recipient is also a
 |member  of  the MLM  exclude  one  of  them).  Personally, I  prefer  to
 |distinguish between direct  replies and replies via MLM so  I don't mind
 |the extra because my filters funnel things appropriately.

That must be your very personal Mailman config then, or?
Well, hmmm ..
I prefer people using Mail-Followup-To: instead of some ML
software modifying the address lists, they could as well just
avoid resending the mail!?!  Yes, i mean, well.
I really like looking into old archives and i hope what i see is
the real original thing, which i think is a value by itself.
But the world does not seem to cherish this.
A nice weekend!

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)



Re: format and output all received: lines in an e-mail message

2019-11-22 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Steffen Nurpmeso on Thu, 21 Nov 2019 23:14:29 +0100:

> I have heared someone revived qmail  and wants to include some patches
> for builtin TLS etc. That sounded very much interesting, especially if
> its mailing-list manager would be maintained again!

There has been some momentum around  creating a newer version that has a
forward path. I imagine there are  still some diehards out there like me
who  just continue  to  use  the original  software  (mine is  minimally
patched for example) because it "just works."

I  still use  unpatched ezmlm  for  my own  personal uses  for the  same
reasons,  though I  have added  an  extra binary;  but the  rest of  the
additional things that were added to it I haven't needed.

Curiously, the email  you sent me appears to have  never arrived via the
MLM that nmh-workers uses---I suspect it has one of those fancy features
that thinks an email that was sent to one address shouldn't be also sent
to another address (i.e. if the address of the To/Cc recipient is also a
member  of  the MLM  exclude  one  of  them).  Personally, I  prefer  to
distinguish between direct  replies and replies via MLM so  I don't mind
the extra because my filters funnel things appropriately.

Andy
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