[No Thirst Software] Re: Password protected documents are insecure
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[No Thirst Software] Re: Password protected documents are insecure
On Jun 13, 1:25 am, David david.k@gmail.com wrote: I'd rather Mr. Hoctor concentrate on functionality and I'll just enable FileVault if I want the level of security for which I think you are asking. Or TrueCrypt/PGP if I'm more serious. If I misunderstand your point, I apologize. I agree, there are already industry-standard solutions for encrypting important data that people can use if they desire. Implementing this sort of functionality in MoneyWell would be redundant and likely inferior IMO. I'd rather Kevin spend his time working on features that don't have workarounds/alternatives. The request for clarifying the add password panel isn't a bad idea, though. Of course you'll probably find that most applications that offer password protection implement a similar scheme. I've seen quite a few people that though blacking out all the cells in their Excel document and applying a worksheet lock made it secure :) -Lance --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups No Thirst Software User Forum group. To post to this group, send email to no-thirst-software@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to no-thirst-software+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/no-thirst-software?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[No Thirst Software] Re: Password protected documents are insecure
I see two issues here: 1) false sense of security. I'd assume if I protect the file with a password the data is secured, which is not the case. So please make it clear (by a prompt and within the help/faq) that the password does not encrypt the data. 2) sharing files via the Web - i.e. I might wanna put my file on an iDisk, which (unfortunately) does not encrypt while syncing but because of #1 I might assume my data is encrypted and safe, which is not the case. Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups No Thirst Software User Forum group. To post to this group, send email to no-thirst-software@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to no-thirst-software+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/no-thirst-software?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[No Thirst Software] Re: Password protected documents are insecure
On Jun 14, 2009, at 4:52 AM, Mike wrote: I see two issues here: 1) false sense of security. I'd assume if I protect the file with a password the data is secured, which is not the case. So please make it clear (by a prompt and within the help/faq) that the password does not encrypt the data. Mike, Sure, I'll make sure the Assign Password panel is more explicit about this in future releases. 2) sharing files via the Web - i.e. I might wanna put my file on an iDisk, which (unfortunately) does not encrypt while syncing but because of #1 I might assume my data is encrypted and safe, which is not the case. Understood. If I can find a way to encrypt the database without affecting performance significantly, I will. Peace, Kevin Hoctor ke...@nothirst.com No Thirst Software LLC http://nothirst.com http://kevinhoctor.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups No Thirst Software User Forum group. To post to this group, send email to no-thirst-software@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to no-thirst-software+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/no-thirst-software?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[No Thirst Software] Re: Password protected documents are insecure
I believe there is a more pressing issue here, which is that you're putting your financial information into this software and there is no mention of security, encryption, or password protection of any kind on the website. Bank accounts, credit cards, etc. account information is going to be in these files. Don't you think it's a good idea for that data to be protected? This program is a good idea, but I'm not willing to put that data at risk, so I won't use it -- and I certainly won't pay for it -- until there's some protection built in. - Ryan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups No Thirst Software User Forum group. To post to this group, send email to no-thirst-software@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to no-thirst-software+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/no-thirst-software?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[No Thirst Software] Re: Password protected documents are insecure
On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:19 PM, nihonjinrxs wrote: I believe there is a more pressing issue here, which is that you're putting your financial information into this software and there is no mention of security, encryption, or password protection of any kind on the website. Bank accounts, credit cards, etc. account information is going to be in these files. Don't you think it's a good idea for that data to be protected? This program is a good idea, but I'm not willing to put that data at risk, so I won't use it -- and I certainly won't pay for it -- until there's some protection built in. Hi Ryan, Your data is on your local computer. You can password protect and even use encrypted volumes if you'd like but encrypting a database causes a performance hit and isn't natively supported in Core Data at this time. I am a bit surprised that this is an issue. Unless your computer is physically accessed by someone else, your data should be very safe. Help me understand why you feel the need to encrypt individual local data files. Peace, Kevin Hoctor ke...@nothirst.com No Thirst Software LLC http://nothirst.com http://kevinhoctor.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups No Thirst Software User Forum group. To post to this group, send email to no-thirst-software@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to no-thirst-software+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/no-thirst-software?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[No Thirst Software] Re: Password protected documents are insecure
On May 29, 3:57 am, Mike m...@mbaierl.com wrote: I just noticed that the MoneyWell documents can be password protected - but they are not encrypted at all. So in the end the data can still be read by anyone. If you want your MoneyWell file to be truly encrypted you could create a encrypted disk image in Mac OSX and move your MoneyWell file there. -Lance --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups No Thirst Software User Forum group. To post to this group, send email to no-thirst-software@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to no-thirst-software+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/no-thirst-software?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
